joanieloveschachi Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Just curious if anyone know's. If We lose Carlos and Rocky will we get a third for Carlos and a fourth for Rocky? I couldn't find any other post on the specifics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 We only get compensatory picks if we lose more than we gain in Free Agency. I'm not sure what specific pics we'd get though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaSkinsNut Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Picks depend on the contract they sign and their performance. 3rd for Rogers is possible. I'd guess more like a 5th for Rocky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanieloveschachi Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks We only get compensatory picks if we lose more than we gain in Free Agency. I'm not sure what specific pics we'd get though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number twenty-eight Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Edit: I think they're factored for the last offseason, but now I can't remember. If its for last season, we wouldn't get any probably (Albright, Betts, Collins lost vs. Buchanon, Hicks, Kemoeatu, Galloway and Grossman gained).. And if there is no free agency before the draft, we wouldn't get any. Its based on compensable FAs lost versus gained and their contracts. I know cut/terminated contracts don't count, only expiring contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well we already have a 1st,2nd,5th,5th,6th,7th,7th Trade McNabb get a 4th, Trade Haynesworth get a 4th. That would give us a 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th ..... 9 picks seems nice to me. Add a compensatory pick in there and we got 10 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Given that we are highly likely to sign a number of free agents, I think it's highly unlikely that we will get compensatory draft picks next year for Rocky and Los. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Picks depend on the contract they sign and their performance. 3rd for Rogers is possible. I'd guess more like a 5th for Rocky. I think this is pretty accurate. Definitely a 3rd for LOS and possibly a 4th (Rocky 2nd round pick when we drafted him) or a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I didn't think compensatory picks went higher than the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I didn't think compensatory picks went higher than the 4th round. HM21, I believe they start at round 3 then go down from their. It's according to where they are drafted. Now someone mentioned in this thread that we may not be compensated AT ALL if we are active in FA next season so that could play a roll in what we get for both (LOS and Rocky) if they sign with other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0rtis26 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 This is the #1 reason we shouldn't have resigned McNabb...if he left in FA there is no doubt we would have gotten a 3rd round comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins-Canes-Mounties Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Not this year. The comp picks for 2011 free agents would be in 2012. Of course, we won't know anything until there is a new CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well we already have a 1st,2nd,5th,5th,6th,7th,7thTrade McNabb get a 4th, Trade Haynesworth get a 4th. That would give us a 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th ..... 9 picks seems nice to me. Add a compensatory pick in there and we got 10 picks. I don't want to pee in your corn flakes, but 4th round picks and later are unlikely to make the team or the practice squad, unless your team is really, really, bad. The first and second round picks can be expected to be here and except for those positions that have a larger than average learning curve (QB, WR) should be a starter, if not in game 1, then by game 8 worst case. A third round pick might start seeing some playing time in the second half of the season, but we don't have one of those. The other 7 to 10 will probably not see the field this year, or ever, except on the practice squad and during pre-season unless you fnd a good long snapper, kicker or punter in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail-to-da-skins-21 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I don't want to pee in your corn flakes, but 4th round picks and later are unlikely to make the team or the practice squad, unless your team is really, really, bad. The first and second round picks can be expected to be here and except for those positions that have a larger than average learning curve (QB, WR) should be a starter, if not in game 1, then by game 8 worst case. A third round pick might start seeing some playing time in the second half of the season, but we don't have one of those. The other 7 to 10 will probably not see the field this year, or ever, except on the practice squad and during pre-season unless you fnd a good long snapper, kicker or punter in there. Idk bout that with Shanny as HC any pick could be great so the more picks the better.... 4th rd Brandon Marshall 4th rd Elvis Dumervill 5th rd Ryan Torrian 5th rd Chris Kuper 7rh rd Peyton Hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I don't want to pee in your corn flakes, but 4th round picks and later are unlikely to make the team or the practice squad, unless your team is really, really, bad. The first and second round picks can be expected to be here and except for those positions that have a larger than average learning curve (QB, WR) should be a starter, if not in game 1, then by game 8 worst case. A third round pick might start seeing some playing time in the second half of the season, but we don't have one of those. The other 7 to 10 will probably not see the field this year, or ever, except on the practice squad and during pre-season unless you fnd a good long snapper, kicker or punter in there. I'd hate to pee in yours but the 2010 draft begs to differ. Here's a list of fourth round picks that are currently on a roster. 2010 Fourth Round Pick 99 St. Louis- Mardy Gilyard WR Pick 100 Minnesota- Everson Griffen DE Pick 101 Tampa Bay- Mike Williams WR (65 catches 1000+ yards 11 TDs) Pick 102 Houston- Daryl Sharpton LB Pick 103 Washington- Perry Riley LB Pick 104 Tennessee- Alterraun Vener CB (3 picks 101 tackles) Pick 105 Philidelphia- Trevard Lindley CB Pick 106 Oakland- Bruce Campbell OT Pick 107 Buffalo- Marcus Easley WR Pick 108 Oakland- Jacoby Ford WR (18.8 ypcatch 2 recieving TDs, 15.5 ypcarry 2 TDs, 3 KR TD's) Pick 109 Chicago- Corey Wooten DE Pick 110 San Diego- Darrel Stuckey S Pick 111 Seattle- Walter Thurmond CB Pick 112 NYJ- Joe McKnight RB Pick 113 New England- Aaron Hernandez TE (500+ yards 6 TDs) Pick 114 Baltimore- Denis Pitta TE Pick 115 New York Giants- Phillip Dillard LB Pick 117 Atlanta- Joe Hawley OG Pick 118 Houston- Garret Graham TE Pick 119 Miami- AJ Edds LB Pick 120 Cincinatti- Geno Atkins DT (3 sacks) Pick 121 Philadelphia- Keenan Clayton LB Pick 122 Philadelphia- Mike Kafka QB (Practice Squad) Pick 124 Carolina- Eric Norwood LB/DE Pick 125 Philadelphia Clay Harbor TE Pick 126 Dallas- Akwasi Owusu-Ansha CB Pick 128 Detroit- Jason Fox OT Pick 129 Indianapolis- Jacques McClendon OG Pick 130 Arizona- O'Brien Schofield LB Pick 131 Cincinatti- Roddrick Muckelroy LB By my count that is 3 players that aren't currently on the roster of the team that drafted them. A few of them landed on IR and a few of them are legitimate starters and even stars. I would venture to say fourth round picks are not only like to make your team (and at least your PS) but fill the nucleus of a solid roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Just curious if anyone know's. If We lose Carlos and Rocky will we get a third for Carlos and a fourth for Rocky? I couldn't find any other post on the specifics Doubtfull they'd be that high as neither of those players are going to fetch huge contracts. Maybe a 5th or 6th and it depends on who we sign as well and for how much. We'll just have to wait until March 2012 to find out. Why are you asking so early (over a year)? Oh and it also will depend on the next collective bargaining agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Compensatory picks for Rocky and Los would be two drafts from now, not next draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Compensatory picks for Rocky and Los would be two drafts from now, not next draft... And also without a new CBA, it is unknown if the Compensatory system will change or if it will actually exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Idk bout that with Shanny as HC any pick could be great so the more picks the better....4th rd Brandon Marshall 4th rd Elvis Dumervill 5th rd Ryan Torrian 5th rd Chris Kuper 7rh rd Peyton Hills that is true for any other year of the draft except this one. Last year's draft was stacked full of talent, and the word going around scout circles is that there might not be 32 players worthy of a first round grade in this year's draft. The real studs of the draft, the underclassmen who declare, are no where to be found in this year's draft, if they where good enough to make it to the NFL, they went last year as this year the rookies could be subject to a new lower salary structure for draft picks. I bet even some agents are telling kids to go back to school until the CBA gets fixed, unless they are a sure fire 1st round pick. Even with needs to fill all over the field, I would be tempted to trade 2 or more of the lower picks -5th, 6th or 7th rounders- and get a higher pick(s) back in return. I think 2011 will see the fewest number of later round picks make the final 53 man roster than in previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I thought this deserved a bump. I know we signed more free agents then we lost, but considering Carlos made the pro-bowl, is there a chance we end up with a comp pick for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 nice bump, I'd expect a fourth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I thought this deserved a bump. I know we signed more free agents then we lost, but considering Carlos made the pro-bowl, is there a chance we end up with a comp pick for him? It's not about how well they do, it's about the contract they sign. If Carlos signed a huge Haynesworth type deal, we'd get a 3rd. If he signed for a VM+I contract, we'd be lucky to get a 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's not about how well they do, it's about the contract they sign. If Carlos signed a huge Haynesworth type deal, we'd get a 3rd. If he signed for a VM+I contract, we'd be lucky to get a 7th. Actually, part of the formula does entail performance apparently. Saw it in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Actually, part of the formula does entail performance apparently. Saw it in another thread. Damn another 4th would be nice. Add it to the package to get Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 can't trade compensation picks True, but it could allow us to trade one of our other 4ths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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