Hersh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, justice98 said: I wouldn't do that either. Westbrook isn't worth Wall AND Bryant. Bryant's only 23, cut him some slack. Maybe if all this meant getting all that cap space back it would be worthwhile, but it doesn't. It's not a knock on Bryant, it's wanting to move on from Wall. 19 minutes ago, DoneMessedUp said: This organization is still totally inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Of course nobody believes Sheppard or the Org on this. But what else could they say if something isn't happening? "We tried but they wanted too much from us?". Maybe Wall got smart and realized his best chance at being moved is to come into camp and work hard. Then play and work hard on the things other teams want to see before trading for him. Defense, Distribution, Burst, Decision Making, Etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Wall isn’t going anywhere. Hes gonna have a great year. Were gonna be a #4 seed. I HAVE SPOKEN 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Robin Lopez and Davis Bertans are going to have Career years with John. We may not play much defense, but this offense is going to light it up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skin'emAlive Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I feel like no one realizes how Bryant, Mo, and Ian made running a pnr impossible. Lopez can and will effectively set screens. He may be goofy off the court, but dude plays with anger on the court. I’m most excited about his signing out of everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Skin'emAlive said: I feel like no one realizes how Bryant, Mo, and Ian made running a pnr impossible. Lopez can and will effectively set screens. He may be goofy off the court, but dude plays with anger on the court. I’m most excited about his signing out of everyone. But how much run is he gonna get? If Bryant doesn't fit in this offense as well and isn't good at defense, why keep him? I just don't buy anything Sheppard is selling now. If he wasn't shopping Wall, he would've said so last week when the rumors started. Also, backups playing minimal minutes won't make this team a lot better defensively. It has to start with your top 5 guys in minutes being better defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 We kept Bryant because we literally can’t afford not to. He’s a skilled big man that doesn’t play defense, but can space the floor a little, and is young. Better off coming off the bench imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abdcskins Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I don't watch Wizards games like you guys do since I live in California, but every time I check the box score Bryant was lighting it up. That may not show his defensive deficiencies, but at least he contributes offensively. I see Greg Monroe plays in Europe. I wouldn't mind seeing him come back to DC. Maybe he isn't as good as I remembered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Wall has wanted Cousins in DC for years now. Watch him be apart of the trade that sends Wall to Houston, and Boogie finally ends up in DC sans Wall. That'd be the ultimate conclusion to this mess. Maybe hey could wave out the window to each other as their planes pass by.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I don’t think Wall Beal Bertans Rui and Bryant can defend. It’s a problem. Rebounding will be a problem too. That said, watching games that end 134-132 is fantastic TV. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 They're obviously banking too much on PG being the problem with the defense last season. But there is a world where the Wizards play average defense if Bonga gets run, Troy gets better, Rui gets better, Wall comes back and plays D, Deni plays this year and holds his own like Tomas did, and we convert some assets into a weak side helper. Robin Lopez is a goon and a good locker room guy. Bryant is an energy big with soft touch and three point range. He's a rim runner who should be an asset in PnR. His offense has never really been a problem, and I'm not worried about his screening as much as his rebounding and help D. If he grows as a weak side helper, then he changes his ceiling. Ditto if he improves his rebounding. I'm skeptical he can do it but it's his ticket to playing in two big line ups and his ticket to becoming a valuable center and fringe All Star. His offensive game is exceptional at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think the Westbrook/Wall trade is 50/50 to happen during the season. I think Houston will pull the trigger on a swap if Wall looks healthy and good in the first month of the season. The incentives would be right for them to make a deal. The thought of Wall playing for that team makes me angry. He needs to finish his career as a Wizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I think the Westbrook/Wall trade is 50/50 to happen during the season. I think Houston will pull the trigger on a swap if Wall looks healthy and good in the first month of the season. The incentives would be right for them to make a deal. The thought of Wall playing for that team makes me angry. He needs to finish his career as a Wizard. I'm hoping Wall is back to his old form (or close to it), trust is rebuilt, we win games and all is well in Wizards land. But if Wall is traded I'm out. Done. Edited November 24, 2020 by BRAVEONAWARPATH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: I'm hoping Wall is back to his old form (or close to it), trust is rebuilt, we win games and all is well in Wizards land. But if Wall is traded I'm out. Done. I don't know what I'll do if it happens. I want to stay a fan of the team, but it'd be hard. It would kind of make me give on the NBA to be truthful. I love football enough to sustain an interest in the NFL even with zero belief or interest in the WFT. But it's hard for me to keep following the NBA when I don't care about the Wizards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: I'm hoping Wall is back to his old form (or close to it), trust is rebuilt, we win games and all is well in Wizards land. But if Wall is traded I'm out. Done. THIS is what would be the thing that pushes you over the edge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Interesting thoughts from Kevin Broom in the comments section https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/11/23/21612180/washington-wizards-tommy-sheppard-john-wall-nba-trade-rumors#comments 1 minute ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: THIS is what would be the thing that pushes you over the edge? It would...🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: It would...🤷♂️ I think at some point it's going to happen unless he's so broken down, nobody will trade for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Once again, a mediocre shooting PG who is 30 and relies on speed and coming off two major injuries, with a top 3 worst contract in the league.... And people are upset/baffled the GM was seeing what was out here as far as a market. GM would be stupid not to. Our D probably improves slightly, because it cannot get worse. Either way the team will be fun to watch. Its fun knowing that even if we play the Lakers, they better hope they are shooting decently or they could take an L 130-118 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Skins199021 said: Once again, a mediocre shooting PG who is 30 and relies on speed and coming off two major injuries, with a top 3 worst contract in the league.... And people are upset/baffled the GM was seeing what was out here as far as a market. GM would be stupid not to. Our D probably improves slightly, because it cannot get worse. Either way the team will be fun to watch. Its fun knowing that even if we play the Lakers, they better hope they are shooting decently or they could take an L 130-118 I truly don't get it. It's bizarre. I would be over the moon if I was a Wiz fan, if I thought there was a chance to get out of Wall's horrific contract. There's more of a chance that he's never going to be what he once was, then there is that he will go back to being a top 5 PG. Those days are over. Once he loses his athleticism and speed, he will really be an albatross on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think with Wall it’s that we know we aren’t winning anything ever so we’d prefer to lose with guys we know and love then get our hopes up that ‘we might figure it out’ next time we hit the reset button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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