Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Here is my math on the payroll projections for next season BTW: Beal = 23.8 Wall = 18 Porter = ? Mahinmi = 16.7 Gortat = 12.8 Keef = 8 Smith = 5.2 Sato = 3 Oubre = 2 McCullough = 1.2 Martell = .8 Min contract = .6 Min contract = .6 = 92.7 million pre-Porter extension. The cap projection from December is 103. I can't find a firm luxury tax projection from after the signing of the new CBA in January, but the old one was around 122-123 million. If Otto signs at 23 instead of 25.8, then that leaves us like 6.3 million to offer Bojan before hitting the luxury tax. And remember, the luxury tax payments don't get enforced until the end of the season, so we'd have up until next year's deadline to make a move like a Gortat or Smith (or even dumping Bojan) to get under the tax. Or we could have 40 wins at next year's deadline and Ted could say IDGAF about paying two or three million dollars in tax, let's keep this band together. So as long as nobody makes Bojan a crazy offer this summer (and most teams won't have the space to offer him more than the full MLE), then I think we are going to try and keep him. Keep in mind that the middle class of players like Bojan are the ones that got squeezed by the new CBA because the max contracts, minimum, and rookie scale contracts all went up, and the cap projection came in lower than expected. This is all assuming he works out of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gibber Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Some of you guys are crazy with the "we aren't going to beat The Warriors or Lebron this year so why mortgage the future" comments. This is legitimately the best team that we have had in awhile and we should strike when the irons hot, because who knows when the next time its going to work out. We have a good shot at the ECF and that is better than anything we have done in 30 years. If we get there, anything can happen against Lebron, since Kyrie and Love are injury prone. Lebron can't do it all himself (see his first go around in Cleveland). We match up well against the Celtics. We have a balanced team with two sharp shooters, a distributing guard, and two guys who run the pick and roll really well. I see the same comments in the O's thread, where people want to blow it up because our pitching might not be good enough and we need to get something for Manny. Remember the days that we weren't making the playoffs or the days where the Wizards were in the lottery multiple years in a row. You can't wait for the perfect time, because it might never come. Have a good team and get a little lucky and who knows. Heck, the Falcons almost won the Superbowl. I'm not an Ernie fan, and I think that he lucks into some stuff (Wall, Marcin, Beal, Brooks) but all of the sudden its actually working so lets do it. Wizards party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Skins199021 said: Moving Mahini would solve a lot Trading him doesn't give us as much flexibility as you'd think this summer. If we dropped his salary altogether, that would put our cap commitments at 98 million. 92.7 in salary - 16.7 from Mahinmi + Otto's 14.7 cap hold + Bojan's 6.8 million cap hold = 98.1 The only way it'd make sense to deal Mahinmi is if you're cutting salary and still getting a good rotation player back in return, because Mahinmi is a good rotation player. Or as a pure salary dump to avoid the tax if **** goes sideways and we take a big step back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skin'emAlive Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Still trying to steal Collison for a future second? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If they managed to get Collison, that'd make our playoff rotation pretty airtight. It'd push Sato out of the rotation entirely though. You can't give up anything of value for Collison though. He's a three month rental for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Warhead36 said: I hate giving up the 1st but Bog is young(only 24)and seems like he can score. Should improve the bench scoring dramatically. Still would like a veteran PG for the bench though. He 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: He 27 Whoops youre right. I googled Bogdan, not Bojan Bogdanovic. Bogdan is 24 and he plays in the Euro League. Whoops. Still, 27 isn't old by any means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 He's in his prime. We were looking for a veteran gunner for the bench and that's what Bojan is. I think his shooting numbers are going to spike because of all the open looks he'll get from finally playing with good players. I think his clutch scoring ability will come in handy on nights where Wall and Beal don't have it. And I think that his defense will still be bad, but we'll be able to hide the impact of it better than Brooklyn did because of Oubre and Mahinmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Even if we do manage to resign Bojan, I'm not sure I like this deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Did get an alert on my phone. Says we're shopping Burke, asking for a 2nd round pick. Edited February 23, 2017 by STBonecrusher21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If we get a second round pick for Burke, I'll tip my cap to Ernie. Not going to happen though. Sell the hell out of his 3 pt % Ernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I think we are hoping Burke and our 2nd nets us Collison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 We've all seen this before. Ernie pulling the "I got us out of the mess I put us in" move. I don't like a 1st round pick for a rental but our 1st is going to be a very late pick. **** it. Let's whip that ass in the second half of the season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Fight4RGIII said: I think we are hoping Burke and our 2nd nets us Collison. If I'm Sacramento, I don't see why I wouldn't make that deal if no one else was offering anything. Free second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taylor703 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, Rocky21 said: We've all seen this before. Ernie pulling the "I got us out of the mess I put us in" move. I don't like a 1st round pick for a rental but our 1st is going to be a very late pick. **** it. Let's whip that ass in the second half of the season! We have ZERO bench because the ****ing moron keeps trading and selling our draft choices. Thinking it's no big deal because it's a late pick is silly. You can find someone to contribute all throughout the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 We don't have a bench because we spent all our cash money on a handful of bums. Thornton, burke, mahinmi, Nicholson, and smith have provided almost 0 help. More often than not, they have been a negative any time they were on the court ( or in Ian's case, not present) My position is: if the trade of a pick results in a quality player that can be around for at least 3-4 years, it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Taylor703 said: We have ZERO bench because the ****ing moron keeps trading and selling our draft choices. Thinking it's no big deal because it's a late pick is silly. You can find someone to contribute all throughout the draft. that ****er is trying to trade everybody HE JUST SIGNED and people are passing out props this world is not my home 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: We don't have a bench because we spent all our cash money on a handful of bums. Thornton, burke, mahinmi, Nicholson, and smith have provided almost 0 help. More often than not, they have been a negative any time they were on the court ( or in Ian's case, not present) My position is: if the trade of a pick results in a quality player that can be around for at least 3-4 years, it was worth it. Bogdanovic is a free agent. It's not a good trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Taylor703 said: Bogdanovic is a free agent. It's not a good trade. He's an RFA, an important distinction. There is a chance we can keep him. If we do, then it will save the trade. Three to four years of Bojan is a worthwhile use of a late first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Taylor703 said: We have ZERO bench because the ****ing moron keeps trading and selling our draft choices. Thinking it's no big deal because it's a late pick is silly. You can find someone to contribute all throughout the draft. If by you, you mean not Ernie, then yeah. Ernie SUCKS at drafting. He hit on Wall (duh), Beal, Porter, and looking good for Oubre. The rest? He SUCKS: 2015 - Jerian Grant 1st 19 2015 - Aaron White 2nd 49 2014 - Jordan Clarkson 2nd 46 2013 - Porter 1st 3 2012 - Beal 1st 3 2012 - Satoransky 2nd 32 2011 - Vesely 1st 6 2011 - Singleton 1st 18 2011 - Mack 2nd 34 2010 - Wall 1st 1 2010 - Lazar Hayward 1st 30 2010 - Nemanja Bjelica 2nd 35 2009 - Jermaine Taylor 2nd 32 2008 - McGee 1st 18 2008 - Bill Walker 2nd 47 2007 - Nick Young 1st 16 2007 - Dominic McGuire 2nd 47 I can't stomach going back any further. In 11 drafts, he has made 17 selections (should have been 22), of which 5 (Grant, Clarkson, Hayward, Taylor, Walker) had their rights traded,and 2 (Satoransky(4 years) and Bjelica) who stayed in Europe. That means in 11 years, only 10 players actually suited up for the Wizards within 3 years of their draft, and only 11 overall. There are 5 draft picks playing for the Wiz, 3 top 3 picks, a #6 pick, and the #2 2nd round pick. THAT. IS. PATHETIC. Edited February 23, 2017 by Popeman38 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 We are pretty much better off not drafting and making trades with out picks, then, right? Lol (but crying inside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The point still stands. Giving away draft choices because you can't find good players is more of an indictment of the GM than the draft itself lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Taylor703 said: The point still stands. Giving away draft choices because you can't find good players is more of an indictment of the GM than the draft itself lol My point is saying that Ernie would make a mid-20s pick that actually contributes is less than 50/50. Bojan Bogdanovich will contribute, and immediately. I don't like trading picks, but Ernie would have drafted a Euro that at best would play here in 4 years, at worst be another Vesely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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