Are we putting too much stock into how much Kareem Moore will upgrade the secondary?

[C26 Run]

As long as he plays better than Reed, we'll be fine. Reed has been the weak link on our pass defense thus far.

[darrelgreenie]

What do we know about Kareem Moore that says he will be an upgrade..

Other what we've seen in preason and training camp, nothing.

We don't 'know' because he hasn't had the chance to prove it.

And until he does we'll never know.

[Sekhmet728]

Moore should at least have some effect, but I don't think adding him turns us into the Ravens or Jets D.

Honestly, I think we'll be in good shape on defense most weeks regardless of the secondary situation. Most QBs aren't immune to the effects of a pass rush like Schaub was.

[NomadicSkinFan]

makes you miss ST. Imagine him paired with laron landry and the game he played today.

Now why'd you go and have to say this

I have to admit when AJ caught that jump ball in the endzone, I did think to myself "No way Sean would have lost that battle". With the way Landry is playing now... Every game would be a body bag game.

[DRSmith]

Last night I was wondering how much better we would have been in coverage if let us say they brought in Shawn Springs to play FS

[skins4ever17]

Despite our secondary not being the best, IMO our DL is the problem.

DT on the DL is not putting enough jam in the middle to allow blitzes to get in FAST.

With FAST blitzing, we can have a mediocre secondary. Problem is, with a bad DL and average secondary, we can't do anything.

The scheme is good, we don't have the right personell.

[BornToHail]

Andre is 6'3' or 4" and he has a 41' vert, I dunno man he is gonna win alot of the jump ball battles don't think karem would have made much of a difference on that paticular play!

You still gotta come down with the ball and that's where a smaller player can make the play.

[cyfar]

Bring Moore on, I am ready to see our defense at full strength. I feel like Doughty will never make game changing plays for us, while Moore has that potential.

To be fair to Reed, he would have had a pick yesterday if he didn't get lit up by Landry.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

They were saying on the post game shows last night that no safety in the league is going to win that matchup with Andre Johnson in the end-zone on 4th and 10. No, I know of a safety that would of won that battle.. his name is Sean Taylor. He wins that battle every time. RIP 21

[skins island connection]

I am with you. In the pre-season, he didn't look as good as advertised. HOWEVER, he is still better than Doughty. If he was in, we win this game today.

But next years draft, we have to draft a FS with one of our top picks. Matter of fact we should draft WR,FS,and RB in that order.

Agreed; remember, this is the SAME Kareem Moore who had an int stripped from him against the Saints last year due to not using his head, and getting turned more than a hambuger on a grill, so for me the jury's gonna take a recess until I see him backing up what I keep reading on this board...

[HailYeah]

The thing that he has going for him is that he is a natural free safety. The only one on the roster.

[RandyHolt]

Lets put Moore on the "Waiting to Exhale" waiting list, but lets not hold our breath. The kid is injury prone, I dont know how he can be counted on this year.

/simpsons reference

[Bang]

I think we're definitely putting too much into how much better we'll be with Moore. he's going to have to show me.

But to be an upgrade over Doughty? Not hard to do that.

~Bang

[skins island connection]

You still gotta come down with the ball and that's where a smaller player can make the play.

To be fair, once AJ secured the ball, he switched it to his right side, away from Reed who was on his left side, while in mid-air! not easy, but I hate the fact he was put in that position in the first place, someone else should have been down there

[BlackBush]

I have a feeling that he will be a MAJOR upgrade with the secondary. There is something to be said about a guy who has the "range" and hitting ability he has. I think a lot of those passes where Doughty is there in time to tackle a player are passes Moore breaks up or better. It seemed like they were picking on Doughty a lot of the time to me.

[wilburmarshall]

Kareem Moore will do really well in Haslett's D. He will be a huge upgrade. I don't think Doughty sucks, he just does not work in this D.

[rumplestilskin]

[ATTACH]44618[/ATTACH][ATTACH]44619[/ATTACH]Kareem Moore is actually Marcus Washington undercover. We are on to you Marcus! We know you are trying to sneak on the team again.

[icbmayday]

I know he is much quicker to the ball in pass coverage than Reed so I think it will help a lot.

[kbltheman]

Both Shanahan and Haslett were singing the praises of Kareem Moore in preseason and training camp--his speed and cover skills are sorely missed right now as evidenced by what Andre Johnson did to Doughty and Co. yesterday. A healthy Moore will make the back end of the zone defense much tighter. He clearly is a major upgrade over what the "Skins have in the lineup right now and his return will make the entire defense better as opposing QB's won't have guys running open deep as targets and instead will be forced to look around more for other targets which should allow the rest of the defense to make plays.

[RandyHolt]

How many games has the guy played in? I love the fact he is our only strong on the roster, but he is very inexperienced. Sadly, he always seemed to get injured the only times I saw him making plays. He gets high praise from everyone but I have yet to see any on field results from him.

[greenspandan]

short answer: yes, absolutely.

long answer:

#1: we simply don't know what we have in moore. we have seen so little. maybe he's good. we'll see, hopefully.

#2: the blame for 497 yards is not on one player's head. the defense performed badly as a unit in pass coverage. there really wasn't one goat.

[bulldog]

no, because Moore as the footspeed and cover skills to stay with guys down the field.

that doesn't mean he's going to stop a 6'3 receiver catch the ball on a alley-oop in the back of the end zone, but he won't be so much of any easy target as Reed Doughty has been.

Doughty was targeted by the Cowboys and Texans in consecutive weeks for a reason.

When you look at the Redskins back seven, who is the weak link?

Doughty.

[Hunter_R]

I missed the game. How did Moore do?

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

I missed the game. How did Moore do?

Missed a bunch of tackles. Had an interception. I don't think his presence was felt much in the secondary today either.

[darrelgreenie]

I missed the game. How did Moore do?

Moore missed a key tackle in the 1st qtr that resulted in a 40 yard Steve Jackson TD run.

He also had a key Interception that seemed to give us the momentum.

It was mixed bag not bad for his 1st start coming off knee surgery.