Jason Campbell is now firmly on the trading block

[redskinsguy17]

Delhomme lost the starting job because of his horrible playing. He was cut because they wanted to show they've faith in Moore, they knew the locker room would be split with the Delhomme supporters and Moore supporters, had Delhomme come back as a backup. The cut happened a week after DeAngelo Williams gave an interview about how he felt Delhomme should remain the starter, because of what he has done for them in the past. Honestly, I'd rather have a guy like Mark Brunell as Moore's backup, a guy that can give insight and advice. I just don't see JC as the kind of person that would look out for any other but himself. Maybe I'm wrong, that's how he's portrayed though.

You're definitely wrong about Campbell being a selfish player. Ask any Redskins player (or fan). JC is one of the hardest working QBs in the NFL. The Redskins players say he practically lives at the Redskins Park training facility. He's about as "coachable" as it gets. Believe it or not, people criticize him a bit for not being ****y enough. They say he's TOO much of a "nice guy".

I'm sure Campbell would have no problem being a backup and giving advice. He knows just about all the different systems in the NFL since he's had different OCs every other year since college. JC is very competitive in his quiet kind of way. He's not a big talking kind of guy but he's pretty intense under that calm demeanor.

JC definitely wants to be an NFL starter. No doubt. If the Panthers got him, Matt Moore would definitely have Campbell breathing down his neck. But that's the NFL. If you can't handle intense competition all the time, you're in the wrong business. Matt Moore better learn that quick. These days, just about any player can be traded or cut at any time for any reason it seems ... especially when a new head coach comes in.

[Glenn X]

Candidly, any trading partner for J.C. would be crazy to give up anything more than a 5th-round pick.

[Larry]

-No they are probably just thinking we won't get much for him at all, and we won't.

Color me this.

I think lots of teams are interested.

I just think they'll be interested in getting him cheap.

[Commander Adama]

Jason Campbell will IMO net the Redskins a #4 draft pick.

I would be happy with this.

[Larry]

OK, I'm seeing lots of threads discussing "What is JC worth in a trade?"

I've decided (based on my vast power) that this is the best thread to discuss that question.

I do think that the person who pointed out that perhaps JC will be worth more after the draft had a point.

From what I'm reading, this year's QB class is really hard to project where they're going. You've got guys at the top with injury questions. Heck, we've got people projecting Tebow anywhere from "late 1st" to "5th round".

So I don't think it's impossible for a team to go through this draft, and just never really feel like there was the right guy on the table when their turn came around.

And, of course, after the draft, we'll be talking about "What 2011 draft pick is JC worth?"

And the traditional "It only takes one" disclaimer.

So, yeah, I could well see some team who just didn't get that warm and fuzzy feeling about a QB in this year's draft, deciding that it would be worth a #3, maybe even a #2, in next year's draft, to get JC into their organization in April, so he can start learning their system.

[CallMeGreen]

I would be happy with this.

A 4th rounder? I'd take that in a relative heartbeat, but certainly I wouldn't be upset if they netted better.

[TheLongshot]

The Redskins WILL be able to deal Campbell for the very reason that quarterback is a very difficult position to find capable talent and depth.

However, some posters need to become more realistic as to Campbell's present value.

Teams know that the Redskins now desperately want to move Campbell.

I don't think there is much desperation in moving Campbell. He's relatively cheap and he's a capable QB. Now, Campbell probably will want to move on and find someplace where he can at least compete for a starting job, so I expect that he will get traded at some point, but I don't think they will take just any offer for Campbell, who is probably the best available QB out there.

Jason Campbell will IMO net the Redskins a #4 draft pick.

Add a conditional pick next year (probably lower than that) and that's probably decent value for Campbell. Fact is, he's going to likely be better than any 4th round draft pick, and possibly better than a 3rd round pick. There is enough needy teams where we might get this price.

[clarkskin]

What does this have to do with anything? All is does is prove that the Redskins vastly over paid for a QB that wasn't as good as an undrafted free agent. Where one is selected in the draft has no baring on how they will translate as a player in the pros. What a guy does in college means squat in the NFL. Otherwise, Brennan would, without a doubt, be our man. This comment is pure fail.

Steve Smith and Santana Moss are almost the same guy. IF JC starts in Carolina, he will be over-throwing a wide open Smith constantly, as he did here with Moss. The big difference is that Moss didn't break JC's jaw with a left hook for pissing him off; Smith will.

The only reason why JC was the starter here is because he has never had to win a QB competition. We bring in a guy who actually has a PROVEN track record (unlike Zorn) with QB's and offenses, and he can tell by just watching tape that JC isn't worth even putting in the competition mix. That speaks volumes above everything.

Give one example of one time in his entire NFL career when JC has shown he can get the job done. Just one. It has never happened. JC has never been able to take this team on his shoulders and lead them to a victory when given the opportunity in the waning minutes of a game. He is an epic failure. He hasn't shown anything at all other than how consistent he is as a choker.

And saying he handled things well, with dignity and class is laughable. It is amazing how many fans forget or just ignore JC and his agent demanding a trade if the team drafted Sanchez, how he has constantly blamed EVERYONE and EVERYTHING else but himself for his shortcomings, and for playing the race card. The guy is a disgrace!!!

Probably the dumbest rant I've seen on here in quite some time. Over doing it a little? I never heard him "blame" anyone or anything even one time. Calling him a disgrace is just downright stupid. You can disagree that hs's a good qb, but he's handled his whole tenure here with class. That's something you most likely dont know about.

[DGREENHULK]

Taylor36 Calm down JC is done guy wish him the best and take your meds damn

[CarolinaPride]

You're definitely wrong about Campbell being a selfish player. Ask any Redskins player (or fan). JC is one of the hardest working QBs in the NFL. The Redskins players say he practically lives at the Redskins Park training facility. He's about as "coachable" as it gets. Believe it or not, people criticize him a bit for not being ****y enough. They say he's TOO much of a "nice guy".

I'm sure Campbell would have no problem being a backup and giving advice. He knows just about all the different systems in the NFL since he's had different OCs every other year since college. JC is very competitive in his quiet kind of way. He's not a big talking kind of guy but he's pretty intense under that calm demeanor.

JC definitely wants to be an NFL starter. No doubt. If the Panthers got him, Matt Moore would definitely have Campbell breathing down his neck. But that's the NFL. If you can't handle intense competition all the time, you're in the wrong business. Matt Moore better learn that quick. These days, just about any player can be traded or cut at any time for any reason it seems ... especially when a new head coach comes in.

I'm sure most would be all for JC becoming a Panther if he could accept the backup role with no guarantees for him to start. If bad luck happens and Moore is injured, JC would get his chance, if he shines, a lot of teams will become interested in him. Same if by some extremely bad luck, Moore burns out toward the middle of the season, JC would get his chance.

If he doesn't get any playing time through the season though, there's a chance no other team would go for him as their starter. I forget the stats, but it's extremely rare for a former starting qb turned backup to get a starting job again for another team. That has to be playing in his mind a little. With the Raiders, with the Jags, he's pretty much guaranteed the starting job.

[DeoreDX]

Looking at other board's fanspeak most are saying they wouldn't mind giving up a 4th for him. Or perhaps a 3rd for one of our later round picks and JC.

[SonnySide]

The real question is this: do you want to win a SuperBowl?

If you don't, then Jason's probly' your guy.

Not too bad, but nothing special.

Good enough to get you to a WildCard and occasionally win your Conference, but just average enough to break your heart when you need a big win.

McNabb on the other hand may actually lead the Skins' to Higher Ground. He's good enough, but will the cards play his way?

[Skins Fan 2932]

Due to our 1st round tender for Jason, his salary this year is 110% more than last year's salary. At $3.1 million, that is a steal even for a 2nd string QB. Given the QB salaries from last year in the table below, I would still be ok with keeping Campbell unless a great trade offer was made. I would want a mid to low 2nd all the way down to a low 3rd. Below that I would take my chances with keeping him and possibly getting Compensitory picks next year. If McNabb gets hurt, as he often does, what do we have to back him up? Not only would Campbell be able to learn from a Pro Bowl vetern, he might even improve his skillset along the way.

2009** QB

** Player Team Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value

** Manning, Peyton Colts $14,000,000 $0 $5,720 $14,005,720 $21,205,718

** McNabb, Donovan Eagles $9,200,000 $0 $3,307,280 $12,507,280 $16,773,950

** Cassel, Matt Chiefs $5,000,000 $0 $10,005,200 $15,005,200 $15,205,200

** Brady, Tom Patriots $5,000,000 $0 $3,007,280 $8,007,280 $14,627,280

** Palmer, Carson Bengals $9,500,000 $0 $0 $9,500,000 $14,300,000

** Russell, JaMarcus Raiders $7,805,880 $3,442,800 $6,760 $11,255,440 $13,618,215

** Roethlisberger, Ben Steelers $4,750,000 $0 $3,001,560 $7,751,560 $13,221,560

** Manning, Eli Giants $7,500,000 $13,000,000 $0 $20,500,000 $13,066,668

** Favre, Brett Vikings $12,000,000 $0 $0 $12,000,000 $12,000,000

** Rivers, Philip Chargers $6,000,000 $19,550,000 $6,630 $25,556,630 $11,541,630

** Cutler, Jay Bears $14,944,090 $7,000,000 $100,000 $22,044,090 $11,534,999

** Warner, Kurt Cardinals $4,000,000 $15,000,000 $4,680 $19,004,680 $11,504,680

** Brees, Drew Saints $4,487,500 $5,001,000 $3,501,000 $12,989,500 $10,660,400

** Schaub, Matt Texans $6,950,000 $0 $10,050,000 $17,000,000 $10,250,000

** Ryan, Matt Falcons $5,000,000 $0 $2,907,280 $7,907,280 $9,907,280

** Rodgers, Aaron Packers $680,000 $0 $7,920,000 $8,600,000 $9,652,500

** Hasselbeck, Matt Seahawks $5,250,000 $0 $1,006,240 $6,256,240 $9,456,240

** Garrard, David Jaguars $5,475,000 $0 $3,025,000 $8,500,000 $9,000,000

** Anderson, Derek Browns $1,450,000 $0 $5,000,000 $6,450,000 $8,783,333

** Delhomme, Jake Panthers $3,200,000 $3,125,000 $0 $6,325,000 $8,591,670

** Bulger, Marc Rams $6,500,000 $0 $7,280 $6,507,280 $8,507,280

** Collins, Kerry Titans $4,500,000 $4,000,000 $7,280 $8,507,280 $6,507,280

** Pennington, Chad Dolphins $3,900,000 $0 $1,850,000 $5,750,000 $5,750,000

** Smith, Alex D. (QB) Eagles $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $7,280 $4,007,280 $5,673,946

** Culpepper, Daunte Lions $2,500,000 $0 $2,550,000 $5,050,000 $5,070,000

** Flacco, Joe Ravens $1,535,000 $0 $7,066,760 $8,601,760 $4,881,760

** Young, Vince Titans $2,160,000 $0 $7,280 $2,167,280 $4,627,284

** Romo sits to pee, Tony Cowboys $620,000 $0 $5,980 $625,980 $4,588,479

** Campbell, Jason Redskins $2,857,500 $0 $7,280 $2,864,780 $3,895,280

** McCown, Luke Jaguars $2,500,000 $2,500,000 $6,760 $5,006,760 $3,756,760

** Vick, Michael Eagles $1,625,000 $0 $0 $1,625,000 $3,641,000

** Redman, Chris Falcons $1,750,000 $0 $7,280 $1,757,280 $3,132,280

** Stafford, Matthew Lions $3,100,000 $0 $0 $3,100,000 $3,100,000

** Volek, Billy Chargers $2,500,000 $0 $6,630 $2,506,630 $2,839,963

** Simms, Chris Broncos $1,960,000 $1,500,000 $6,500 $3,466,500 $2,716,500

** Leinart, Matt Cardinals $1,110,000 $0 $5,200 $1,115,200 $2,630,200

** Hill, Shaun 49ers $1,400,000 $0 $50,000 $1,450,000 $2,600,000

** Orlovsky, Dan Texans $1,750,000 $2,400,000 $7,280 $4,157,280 $2,557,280

** Sanchez, Mark Jets $2,545,000 $0 $0 $2,545,000 $2,545,000

** Rosenfels, Sage Vikings $2,000,000 $0 $5,330 $2,005,330 $2,471,996

** Fitzpatrick, Ryan Bills $1,820,000 $1,170,000 $5,590 $2,995,590 $2,215,590

** Carr, David Giants $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $100,000 $2,100,000 $2,200,000

** Wallace, Seneca Seahawks $1,750,000 $0 $6,240 $1,756,240 $2,156,240

** Leftwich, Byron Buccaneers $2,000,000 $0 $5,200 $2,005,200 $2,005,200

** Kitna, Jon Cowboys $1,400,000 $0 $2,600,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000

** O'Sullivan, J.T. Bengals $750,000 $1,000,000 $600,000 $2,350,000 $1,850,000

** Brunell, Mark Saints $1,100,000 $0 $455,000 $1,555,000 $1,805,000

** McCown, Josh Panthers $1,700,000 $0 $50,000 $1,750,000 $1,750,000

** Collins, Todd Steven Redskins $950,000 $950,000 $100,000 $2,000,000 $1,740,000

** Quinn, Brady Browns $655,000 $0 $1,352,940 $2,007,940 $1,723,690

** Boller, Kyle Rams $1,250,000 $0 $255,200 $1,505,200 $1,505,200

** Freeman, Josh Buccaneers $310,000 $0 $1,070,000 $1,380,000 $1,380,000

** Sorgi, Jim Colts $900,000 $0 $280,000 $1,180,000 $1,305,000

** Orton, Kyle Broncos $995,000 $0 $100,000 $1,095,000 $1,095,000

** St. Pierre, Brian Cardinals $800,000 $175,000 $25,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000

** Kolb, Kevin Eagles $460,000 $0 $736,905 $1,196,905 $957,905

** Stanton, Drew Lions $525,000 $0 $6,890 $531,890 $946,890

** Clemens, Kellen Jets $535,000 $0 $6,240 $541,240 $943,740

** Edwards, Trent Bills $460,000 $0 $5,200 $465,200 $822,950

** Jackson, Tarvaris Vikings $535,000 $0 $5,330 $540,330 $745,330

** White, Pat Dolphins $310,000 $0 $416,175 $726,175 $726,175

** Whitehurst, Charlie Chargers $535,000 $0 $6,630 $541,630 $718,630

** Croyle, Brodie Chiefs $535,000 $0 $4,810 $539,810 $711,478

** Henne, Chad Dolphins $385,000 $0 $565,340 $950,340 $607,740

** Gradkowski, Bruce Raiders $535,000 $0 $6,760 $541,760 $541,760

** Batch, Charlie Steelers $745,000 $50,000 $0 $795,000 $510,000

** Smith, Troy Ravens $460,000 $0 $6,760 $466,760 $501,760

** Feeley, A.J. Panthers $745,000 $0 $0 $745,000 $482,941

** Moore, Matt Panthers $460,000 $0 $5,460 $465,460 $465,460

** Beck, John Ravens $460,000 $0 $3,640 $463,640 $463,640

** Grossman, Rex Texans $620,000 $0 $2,080 $622,080 $462,080

** Gutierrez, Matt Chiefs $460,000 $0 $7,280 $467,280 $460,000

** Frye, Charlie Raiders $620,000 $0 $0 $620,000 $460,000

** McGee, Stephen Cowboys $310,000 $532,000 $0 $842,000 $443,000

** Dixon, Dennis Steelers $385,000 $0 $7,280 $392,280 $435,613

** Ainge, Erik Jets $385,000 $0 $6,240 $391,240 $430,064

** Johnson, Josh Buccaneers $426,833 $0 $6,760 $433,593 $423,134

** Brennan, Colt Redskins $385,000 $0 $6,760 $391,760 $415,960

** Flynn, Matt Packers $385,000 $0 $5,850 $390,850 $406,893

** Hanie, Caleb Bears $385,000 $0 $5,200 $390,200 $391,866

** Palmer, Jordan Bengals $385,000 $0 $5,460 $390,460 $390,460

** Ratliff, Brett Browns $385,000 $0 $1,820 $386,820 $386,820

** O'Connell, Kevin Jets $385,000 $0 $6,890 $391,890 $385,000

** Thigpen, Tyler Dolphins $460,000 $0 $5,200 $465,200 $378,824

** Null, Keith Rams $310,000 $0 $27,500 $337,500 $356,625

** Davis, Nate 49ers $310,000 $150,300 $0 $460,300 $347,575

** Brandstater, Tom Broncos $310,000 $123,570 $0 $433,570 $340,892

** Teel, Mike Seahawks $310,000 $114,250 $0 $424,250 $338,562

** Painter, Curtis Colts $310,000 $93,285 $0 $403,285 $333,321

** Wilson, John Falcons $310,000 $17,500 $0 $327,500 $318,750

** Bartel, Richard Browns $310,000 $0 $5,070 $315,070 $315,070

** Hoyer, Brian Patriots $310,000 $12,500 $0 $322,500 $314,166

[BillyKilmer]

OK! He's been on my trading block for two years now.

Second Round pick? whoa! whoa! whoa! that's crazy talk.

Campbell cannot be traded b/c nobody is willing to give us ANYTHING for him.

We'd be lucky to get a 7th rounder. Honestly. 5th? What is this Christmas?

I just wanted to flag this post for later. Perhaps for serving of Crow.

[Timmy Smith]

Anyone remember what we ended up getting for Patrick Ramsey? Seems like a decent comparison... I think it was a fifth or sixth?

[HailToTheRedskins14]

I agree with Skins Fan.

If we're trading for a vet like McNabb, that means we're obviously trying to do something this year. And McNabb has had some injuries in the recent past, so why not keep JC around at a relatively cheap price for backup duty? They could be big games for us, and the front office has now made it clear it is not interested in down years. I think the advantage of having Campbell over Grossman as your backup is worth the price.

If he lights it up in his limited opportunities, we can maybe get a trade out of him next year with a better reward? If not, we let him go as Skins Fan said and look for compensatory picks since that's about what we'll be getting this year. That is, unless we get a really good offer this year. You just have to weigh the choices out and see which has more value.

[Chicken Fried]

Carolina has Moore. SF has Alex Smith. Denver didn't even want JC over Orton. Our best shot is with Oakland or Buffalo (maybe Cleveland?).

[modazfuk]

Anyone remember what we ended up getting for Patrick Ramsey? Seems like a decent comparison... I think it was a fifth or sixth?

Sixth

[J-bomb]

My prediction is Campbell to Buffalo for there 41st overall pick. At that pick JC is better than anything the Bills could draft and has 5 yrs of NFL service the bills will be happy to have him and we will be happy to have that pick!

[Chicken Fried]

I just heard on National Football Post.com that Jack Del Rio has confirmed the Jags will not be trading for Campbell.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Charlie Whitehurst (WTF?) got the Chargers a third and a swap of second rounders from Seattle.

If we get less than a third rounder for Campbell I'll be sick.

[seanyt]

Carolina

49ers

St. Louis

I don't think we will get anything higher than a 3rd.

You can scratch the 49ers off the list. Singletary doesn't Coddle or Babysit. He expects them to get it...

[HawaiianTime]

Due to our 1st round tender for Jason, his salary this year is 110% more than last year's salary. At $3.1 million, that is a steal even for a 2nd string QB. Given the QB salaries from last year in the table below, I would still be ok with keeping Campbell unless a great trade offer was made. I would want a mid to low 2nd all the way down to a low 3rd. Below that I would take my chances with keeping him and possibly getting Compensitory picks next year. If McNabb gets hurt, as he often does, what do we have to back him up? Not only would Campbell be able to learn from a Pro Bowl vetern, he might even improve his skillset along the way.

Are the Skins able to retract the 1st round tender? If Jason wants to leave, does he just not sign the tender? At what point does the tender expire? I think Campbell is off-limits as long as he has a 1st round tender on him, considering what we gave up for McNabb.

[Chicken Fried]

Charlie Whitehurst (WTF?) got the Chargers a third and a swap of second rounders from Seattle.

If we get less than a third rounder for Campbell I'll be sick.

I didn't even know who Whitehurst was until the trade happened. If Allen is smart, he will use this as precedent for a solid pick for Jason.

[Stadium-Armory]

The Whitehurst trade, and a probable 3rd (or maybe 2nd) for Jason Campbell serve to illustrate what a steal McNabb is for a 2nd and conditional. Seriously, imagine if he plays 5 more years even close to his talent level.

Its hard for me to root for him, but I see value in this trade.