bulldog Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Jerry Jones unlike Dan Snyder is the official GM of the Cowboys. He is never going to cede top level control over the draft and FA to anyone else. That is why Shanahan and Holmgren are not going to end up in Dallas. Parcells, much better know for acting in the role of personnel evaluator, only gained partial control from Jones, who still signed Terrell Owens and gave Roy Williams (the safety) a new contract over Parcells' objections. With Allen in place here, Shanahan is provided with some assurance of control over personnel, and a meaningful role for his cronies from the ex-Broncos staff, another thing he would not enjoy in Dallas as Jones wants to have a say in the assistants as well. Further the Cowboys win over the Saints put them in good position to be a playoff team in 2009 which will take them into January. The more games they win and if they overtake the Eagles or perform well in the playoffs as a wild-card it will be that much more difficult to exit Wade Phillips, a move that seemed certain 3-4 weeks ago. By then the Redskins season will be over and Zorn will be out of the building at Ashburn. With a clean slate and a chance to get a head start on planning for the offseason, I don't see Snyder's dollars or Shanahan's ego to wait to see what happens with other teams whose seasons are extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Agreed, Jerruh is way too egotistical to cede his GM duties. If Parcells couldn't get em, Shanahan has no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Peter King just mentioned he spoke to Snyder after the Allen hire and said it was completely up to Bruce to pick the HC. He said he realized he had made mistakes over the last 10 years. He also said he thought Shanahan would be the HC when the dust settles. I think at least the plan right now is to have him here and seems you've outlined some great reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST is my boy Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Jerry doesnt have to either. They have the most talented roster in football. No question. They just need a coach......really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Oh, one other thing you might add to that list is the debt on the new stadium and whether he's ready to sink a hefty salary in to a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Peter King just mentioned he spoke to Snyder after the Allen hire and said it was completely up to Bruce to pick the HC. He said he realized he had made mistakes over the last 10 years. He also said he thought Shanahan would be the HC when the dust settles.I think at least the plan right now is to have him here and seems you've outlined some great reasons. Yeh, I saw that and mentioned it in twenty-eights thread, and I agree with Bulldog. Though I would think that other than Jones' hands-on obssession, Dallas would hold a lot of attraction for a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 PFT was reporting Dallas is Shanahan's top choice. I know he's a control freak so it makes me wonder why. If it's true that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Jerry doesnt have to either. They have the most talented roster in football. No question. . :yikes: WHAT?! not even close they have some great players but their OL is old ad overrated, the RB's aren't what they are claimed to be, many teams have better, WR's? nope Defense Ratliff and Ware, the rest average at best, Their safetys are horrible Special teams? :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 PFT was reporting Dallas is Shanahan's top choice. I know he's a control freak so it makes me wonder why. If it's true that is. I keep waiting for reports to start to come out about adding Chicago to that list. One might connect the dots with Cutler there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Oh, one other thing you might add to that list is the debt on the new stadium and whether he's ready to sink a hefty salary in to a HC. and payoff Garret's $3 million a year for 2 or 3 more years and Wade, too boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 here's the kicker.... If cowboys make the playoffs and go far.. wade phillips will prob stay... if they don't, wade is gone... Our redskins-cowboys game could determine their fate... If zorn beats the cowboys, cowboys may get shanny... If zorn really wants to stick it to Danny, he beats the cowboys... and walks out with his head held high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolmConnection Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 :yikes: WHAT?!not even close they have some great players but their OL is old ad overrated, the RB's aren't what they are claimed to be, many teams have better, WR's? nope Defense Ratliff and Ware, the rest average at best, Their safetys are horrible Special teams? :no: Absolutely agree. The Cowboys have a Redskins-syndrome. You're not as close you think you are. The difference between the Redskins and Cowboys is that the Redskins seemed to have started to learn over the past few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolmConnection Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 and payoff Garret's $3 million a year for 2 or 3 more years and Wade, too boot Is it just me or does Garrett look like a douchy uncle? He's always wearing that stupid turtleneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Jerry doesnt have to either. They have the most talented roster in football. No question. They just need a coach......really bad. yeah, i really don't agree with that. I know everyone loves to say that about them, but I think their "talent" is more of a function of the hype machine from being "america's team"- in other words, in terms of pure talent, most of their skill players are over-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 PFT was reporting Dallas is Shanahan's top choice. I know he's a control freak so it makes me wonder why. If it's true that is. PFT is full of complete :pooh: most of the time, and if you throw enough :pooh: against a wall, something is bound to stick... They can name coaches who are going to whatever team... Gruden is coming here, Shanahan is coming here, it happens every time and is nothing more than rumors... we interviewed Fassel, too, and guess what, two years later he's still unemployed. Take the rumors for what they are, something to read when you're sitting on the :toilet: NO ONE called the Jim Zorn hire NO ONE called the Joe Gibbs hire peace out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins3000 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I thought I heard Jay Glazer on Fox today state that Jerry does not want Shannahan even though Dallas is where Shannahan wants to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I thought I heard Jay Glazer on Fox today state that Jerry does not want Shannahan even though Dallas is where Shannahan wants to be. Really? I thought Jones has been hot for Shanny all year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Bulldog nailed it right on the head. Jerry's title is Owner/Team President/GM, and he is not giving up the GM title. Shanahan wants a say-so over the roster, and to me, I think a coach should have a say-so over who is 53 man roster should be. If he comes in, he'll have a say-so on who the 53 man roster will be, but Allen has the final say, which how an NFL franchise should be ran. Jerry will wind up promoting Garrett to HC, after the Redskins hire Shanny, which I hope he doesn't bring in his old DC from last season, if he is hired for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenRiggins Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I thought I heard Jay Glazer on Fox today state that Jerry does not want Shannahan even though Dallas is where Shannahan wants to be. He did and believe it :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 So, we're basically waiting for Shanny to decide about the puke job, eh? I hate **** like this...tell him to decide now, or find someone else. We're getting caught up in 'shiny object syndrome', again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 :yikes: WHAT?!not even close they have some great players but their OL is old ad overrated, the RB's aren't what they are claimed to be, many teams have better, WR's? nope Defense Ratliff and Ware, the rest average at best, Their safetys are horrible Special teams? :no: Not to mention that most of their fan base was calling them 'gutless' two weeks ago. Oh, and their kicker! :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I heard (from the guy sitting next to me who likes to make stuff up to make me mad) JJ is eye balling Zorn once we let him go...He likes Zorn because he is used to being man handeled and will come to FedEx to kick our butts next year. He is also eye balling CP, ARE, JC, and all the other fat we are going to trim. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST is my boy Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 :yikes: WHAT?!not even close they have some great players but their OL is old ad overrated, the RB's aren't what they are claimed to be, many teams have better, WR's? nope Defense Ratliff and Ware, the rest average at best, Their safetys are horrible Special teams? :no: No need to be a total homer man. Romo sits to pee is a good Quarterback..... They have 3 running backs that could start in this league. Good huge offensive line (Flozell sucks). Miles Austin is pretty damn good......average receivers after him Top Flight Tight end Spencer, Ratliff, Ware.......all STUDS. Average Secondary..... But overall I mean.......thats is alot of talent........I cant name a team more stacked than them to be honest. Doesnt mean they can put it all together.....but just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rk3025 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Pay Shannahan $1 million for two years of his $7 million coming from Denver and then $10 million for the next three I thought I heard Jay Glazer on Fox today state that Jerry does not want Shannahan even though Dallas is where Shannahan wants to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 But overall I mean.......thats is alot of talent........I cant name a team more stacked than them to be honest. You must not watch the pukes very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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