REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ref Admits He Cheated (Calling Fouls On Allen Iverson On Every Play & Cheated For Kobe Bryant To Win). WOW, a must watch for any NBA fan..... http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh8P90XQNHj21o8Rr9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Nothing will come of this. Too much liability that goes to the top of the league. Steroids in baseball got so much play because ultimately even though the league allowed it, they could blame the players themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianforster Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 im not even a huge fan of basketball and this is absolutely ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 As I said before. Congress needs to hold hearings on this. It won't happen though. And I have to say, the summary in the OP isn't really clear. He didn't admit to cheating for his gambling reasons. He simply used inside info to win, according to him, 80% of his bets. Injuries and the like, but moreso the relationships refs and their crews had with certain players, coaches, GMs and even owners. He knew how stuff like that would influence a game; whether it be a positive relationship between the parties or a negative one. For example, the Iverson thing: Iverson threatened a ref and was fined 25k. The refs thought he should have been suspended and were basically pissed the hell off. They brought the world down on Iverson for a game or two. Calling him for BS and letting people foul him. This clearly influences the game and Donaghey, knowing this, bet against the Sixers and won. He seems 100% believable to me. And it basically confirms my suspicion that Lebron James is a little babied primadonna protected *****. I think anyone who pays attention and isn't some awed fanboy can come to no other conclusion. Anyway, I watched it last night and it was fascinating. Definitely have to echo the OP's sentiment that it is a must watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 watching now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 He seemed regretful, but I guarantee he'd still be betting on the games had he not gotten involved with the Mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 please change the title and the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 He seemed regretful, but I guarantee he'd still be betting on the games had he not gotten involved with the Mob. Maybe. It's an addiction. You gotta hit bottom before you can go back up and fix yourself. Everyone's bottom is different. Some make it out before it gets really horrible and others, like Donaghey, have to get caught and have all sorts of bad **** happen to them. Doesn't make his recovery any less successful or meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 And why in the hell do people think this doesn't happens in ALL sports?? IMO it CLEARLY does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciscofan Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 David Stern is the worst commissioner right now, with Bud Selig a close second. Unfortunately there is TOO much discretion in the NBA. As much as we complain about refs in the NFL, I do feel that NFL refs are more consistant and the league is constantly trying to improve. Stern needs to have an overhaul of the officiating process from a structural to personel standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Goodell's the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 No he isn't. He doesn't fine coaches for speaking out against corrupted officiating or run a questionable league Selig isn't that bad either. The guy implemented the wild card and interleague. How could he be even close to the worst? Commissioner rankings Stern Worst Bettman Second Worst Goodell third worst Selig best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciscofan Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 No he isn't. He doesn't fine coaches for speaking out against corrupted officiating or run a questionable leagueSelig isn't that bad either. The guy implemented the wild card and interleague. How could he be even close to the worst? Commissioner rankings Stern Worst Bettman Second Worst Goodell third worst Selig best Selig wanted to ignore the whole steroids issue for too long. He always has his hands in his pockets. Great, he implemented some new things. But he had the opportunity to nip the steroids scandal in the bud when it happened. He let it drag out. The whole process has just been upsurd. There are a lot of people who have lost respect for the MLB. Goodell hasn't even begun to crawl as a commissioner. He came in and ruled with an iron fist. Do you think that was of his own doing? I feel confident that when Tags resigned, a big issue to be addressed was the conduct of players. Tags could not go start this because he has let others slide for some of the same infractions. Goodell has done a good job of discipling players. The way the negotiations play out will certainly be telling of how good he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Donaghy's claims that the league is FIXING games for certain outcomes. Placing certain "officials" at games to affect those games where league wants certain outcomes. I for one believe it and am not surprised one bit. This is an entertainment BUSINESS and you need to cater to you audience for continued BUSINESS. All major sports industry do too IMO. It makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciscofan Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Donaghy's claims that the league is FIXING games for certain outcomes. Placing certain "officials" at games to affect those games where league wants certain outcomes. I for one believe it and am not surprised one bit. This is an entertainment BUSINESS and you need to cater to you audience for continued BUSINESS. All major sports industry do too IMO. It makes sense. Yep. Which is why the 'Pukes get the breaks and ESPN is up their a-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Skins_&_'Stons Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 NBA = WWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 it basically confirms my suspicion that Lebron James is a little babied primadonna protected *****. I think anyone who pays attention and isn't some awed fanboy can come to no other conclusion. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 And why in the hell do people think this doesn't happens in ALL sports?? IMO it CLEARLY does. I agree. I saw his interview on ESPN last night. He was describing in detail how he and other refs operated. What they were doing could easily happen in the NFL. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe. It's an addiction. You gotta hit bottom before you can go back up and fix yourself. Everyone's bottom is different. Some make it out before it gets really horrible and others, like Donaghey, have to get caught and have all sorts of bad **** happen to them. Doesn't make his recovery any less successful or meaningful. I kind of agree with him, though. Who was he really hurting by betting on the games? Nobody, that's who. He even said he only made about 100K on the games. Hardly a windfall. I bet many of us posting in this thread would do the same thing given the information available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Stern has done a good job of silencing anyone who speaks out against this. I remember Mark Cuban paid someone to come up with a huge set of data that basically showed extremely mysterious patterns for a lot of NBA refrees. The league basically threatened him to the point that it was never released. NBA is a crooked league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 His allegations explain the officiating of Knick Bavetta in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I got to say, after seeing this interview it's hard for me to watch NBA basketball the same. I mean you kind of know in the back of your head that this bull**** is going on (and like aRedskin said, in ALL sports) but that benefit of the doubt kind of puts your mind at ease. Now that it's out there and you have someone in the know saying that it's true, it's just killer. I'm watching the Grizzlies/Lebrons game right now and it's like I can see it in slow motion, clear as day. They mug Marc Gasol, goaltend Zach Randolph, nothing. Lebron is breathed on foul. Lebron takes three steps in a freaking sprint and stumble to the basket, no call. Stern needs to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I got to say, after seeing this interview it's hard for me to watch NBA basketball the same. I mean you kind of now in the back of your head that this bull**** is going on (and like aRedskin said, in ALL sports) but that benefit of the doubt kind of puts your mind at ease. Now that it's out there and you have someone in the know saying that it's true, it's just killer. I'm watching the Grizzlies/Lebrons game right now and it's like I can see it in slow motion, clear as day. They mug Marc Gasol, goaltend Zach Randolph, nothing. Lebron is breathed on foul. Lebron takes three steps in a freaking sprint and stumble to the basket, no call. Stern needs to do something. Rudy Gay got molested by Shaq and Varejao with 40 seconds left in the 4th. For a second I couldn't believe that it wasn't called, then I remembered that the Chosen Queen is on the floor. LeBronze gets that foul 10/10 times. **** is so weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Haha. And the Cavs still lost. Go eat a **** Lebron. You too Stern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Rudy Gay got molested by Shaq and Varejao with 40 seconds left in the 4th. For a second I couldn't believe that it wasn't called, then I remembered that the Chosen Queen is on the floor. LeBronze gets that foul 10/10 times. **** is so weak. Yup. It's just so obvious. On a sidenote, I'm sure that the same **** goes down for Kobe, DFade and Co. but the fact that Lebron still manages to cry and whine with a straight face after every freaking single thing (and the Crabaliers fans follow suite) just puts my hate for him in the stratosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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