tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 This has been going on for a couple of weeks, but our defense looks the same as last year, yet all the talk on here is about how inept the offense is. 3 punts in 2 games iirc. this is a team game and for the offense to be effective they need the defense to get them the ball and for the defense to be effective the offense needs to give them a lead. it's chicken and egg, but so far neither has stepped up and i think the defense should be more scrutinized because of the shunning of the offense in FA spending. allowing two teams, one of which is horrendous to convert 50% of their 3rd downs, especially when most are third and long is just not going to cut it. the only guy who is stepping up because of his 1 on 1s that are created by big al is griffin. orakpo started coming on last game but we still don't have a pass rush and our blitzes are still getting picked up, easily. matt stafford has a league-leading 5 ints this year, and the defense should absolutely abuse him. the lions need to be punished every time they take the field, because if they get going then they will get into the game and the redskins will feel the heat and we watched them in primetime when things got difficult last year. it wasn't pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I am concerned about the defense giving up the 3rd and longs that they have, which is basically a carryover from the preseason and I don't like the cushion the DBs are giving opposing WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinFeathers Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Did you miss all the threads calling out D. Hall and Landry? Or our whole secondary playing 10 yards off? Or the threads calling for Blache to be fired? I thought those were some concerns about our defense. That being said...our defense has played a hell of a lot better than our offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The defense is a work in progress, but the defense is also largely responsible for us even being in games so far this season. I'm not too concerned about it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm quite disappointed with our d-line. Haynesworth is drawing double teams and blowing up the middle, but it seems like no one else even gives a ****. How the **** are they able to double Haynesworth and still block everyone else perfectly. Doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwyl Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Rams punted 4 times. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20090920028&page=plays&vm=r&vm=r&vm=r&vm=r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins fan for life Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Redskins defense has given up 23 points this season. That's a 11.5 average per game. I'll take those numbers any day, I don't care how you get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Defense has looked really solid and will get better each week. Art mentioned it in another thread but until Hall starts playing the run from the CB position we're going to be a little soft (paraphrase). But the pressure on the QB has increased dramatically, Londer and Rocky look great, and the rookie looked much better last week. No concern here...offense ever picks up and you'll see a great defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I have to admit, I was expecting a little more from them. It's still early though. I think in the next game or 2 they'll finally start to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpy007 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I know I'm concerned. Our defense is ranked 28th on 3rd downs. that sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Probably because the defense is only giving up 11 points per game so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CardMonte Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Aikman Efficiency Ratings REDSKINS Offense Rating 68.6 thats down 6.4 from end of last season. Defense Rating is 84.7 that is up 10.9 points from end of last season. 2008 Offense Ranked 23 Current Offense Ranks 26 2008 Defense Ranked 11 Current Defense Ranks 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The only thing wrong with our D is that we are still not getting after the QB and getting a push to break the pocket. That has simply to do with Blache's scheme and is nothing to worry about compared to our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Did you miss all the threads calling out D. Hall and Landry? Or our whole secondary playing 10 yards off? Or the threads calling for Blache to be fired?I thought those were some concerns about our defense. That being said...our defense has played a hell of a lot better than our offense... no, but did you see the 13070174012740 threads saying that our defense is good enough to win the super bowl and they're not. they played like an elite defense for the last 4 plays of the st. louis game and there's no reason they can't look like the majority of the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Bend-not-break can be VERY STRESSFUL :tantrum: but at least they don't give up many points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfersvida Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Greg Blache plays a, and you have probably heard this term.., "bend but don't break" defense. Now, he blitzes a lot and likes to bring pressure, but still allows a little bit of a cushion, assuming its better to give them a first down than to let them get a large TD play. Does this style work? Yes. It is incredibly effective. The Giants, who have arguably the best Oline and QB combination in the NFC, scored only 1 offensive touchdown against us. They also could not execute within the red zone. Will we get more sacks than last year? I hope so, and probably. But do not say that we should be concerned about this defense. This defense is just as good as last year and better. Blache's scheme may not be the flashiest, but it works, and it works well. Do we still have things to work on? Absolutely. Are they glaring? No. And am I okay with where our D stands at this point in the season? 100% HTTR. Edit: and I will take a 9-7 win any single game of any single week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillSkinzFan84 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ive been concerned since the offseason when I read that we would be putting Orakpo at LB. I think moving him to DE would boost our pass rush because right now it is non existent. And any team with a good qb will eat us up because of the time they have. Which is why teams are converting 3rd downs on us. And we all know we give up too much cushion to the recievers. In my opinion Blach is too arrogant to change the D and let his players do what they do best. He wants to force this system..so expect the same results as the last few years...a good D. Doesnt give up too many points, but will always be in close games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The only truly worthy stat in the end is... points allowed. Everything else is secondary. 16 points against the giants, 7 against the rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Probably because the defense is only giving up 11 points per game so far... 13th in sacks 20th in ints our 2 worst areas last year, and $150 million spent. i think the defense gets too much of a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Bend-not-break can be VERY STRESSFUL :tantrum:but at least they don't give up many points. but it also gives offenses long drives, doesn't give the offense the ball, and consistently causes the offense to drive on long fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 no, but did you see the 13070174012740 threads saying that our defense is good enough to win the super bowl and they're not.they played like an elite defense for the last 4 plays of the st. louis game and there's no reason they can't look like the majority of the plays. The defense will come together in time. But right now they aren't playing up to the caliber that they should be. I think we see a vast improvement this week. I predict we hold the Lions to single digit points. And compared to our offense, the defense looks like the 2000 Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins fan for life Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I don't give a **** about sacks or turnovers. If the defense allows only 11 points a game and get no sacks and no turnovers for the rest of the year, i'd be elated. Don't blame the offense's problems on the defense "not getting turnovers". A competent NFL offense should be able to score 12 points game even if they start from the 20 every drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 The only truly worthy stat in the end is... points allowed. Everything else is secondary. 16 points against the giants, 7 against the rams. no, the only thing that matters is W-L. just like the offense needs to score more points to win, the defense has to hold an opponent to less points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm quite disappointed with our d-line. Haynesworth is drawing double teams and blowing up the middle, but it seems like no one else even gives a ****. How the **** are they able to double Haynesworth and still block everyone else perfectly. Doesn't make sense to me. Makes sense to me. He's the only good player in the d-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 The defense will come together in time. But right now they aren't playing up to the caliber that they should be. I think we see a vast improvement this week. I predict we hold the Lions to single digit points. and the offense is in the same boat. they'll get it together. they may have scored less points but they piled up 360 yds of offense in the game and drove relentlessly downfield. they had to do so because their average starting field position was their own 19. the defense isn't doing the offense any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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