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Manny Ramirez To Be Suspended For 50 Games!


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So he didn't pay this doctor for expert advice?

I'm under the impression the rich athletes know and can afford the best doctors, therefore trusting their judgement.

If that's your argument, fine. I just don't agree with the stance 'we don't know what we put in our bodies, why would a pro athlete?' I can't hit a ball 400+ feet either.

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As for many on here stating he should know what he is putting in his body - can you name all the ingredients in sinus medicine? Dayquil? What about a 20 oz. bottle of Nestea? If a doctor gives me medicine, I trust their decision.

Trust me, professional athletes know EXACTLY what they are putting in their bodies. If they don't, and there are strict rules regarding PED's, they are stupid.

I am saying this because of my experience with my fiance who is on the U.S. wrestling team and lives and trains at the Olympic Training Center. He knows the ingredients of everything he puts in his body because he knows officials come in there and test all them about once a month.

Even when a doctor gives him something, he checks it out. He had a rib injury at a tournament overseas in a few months ago and the freaking tournament doctor was going to give him something that was banned :doh: Yeah, that shocked me, like, I thought those tournament physicians knew specifically what they could and couldn't give injured athletes, but I guess they know generally what not to give, but not always down to the tiny, specifc stuff. And new stuff is constantly being added to the banned substance list. Anyway, the point is, it is up to the athlete to know what they are taking, even when given something by a health professional.

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Trust me, professional athletes know EXACTLY what they are putting in their bodies. If they don't, and there are strict rules regarding PED's, they are stupid.

I'm not sure I would call Manny a professional athlete. A...unique guy who is really good at hitting a baseball is probably a better description.

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Looks like he was either using something to help little Manny or was definitely on the roids.



Ramirez’s drug used to stimulate testosterone

By Tim Brown and Steve Henson, Yahoo! Sports

LOS ANGELES – The illegal substance for which Los Angeles Dodgers slugger Manny Ramirez(notes)tested positive and was banned 50 games was prescribed to address erectile dysfunction, not “an agent customarily used for performance enhancing” a source close Ramirez said Thursday.

However, two sources said the substance Ramirez tested positive for was a gonadotropin. Major League Baseball’s list of banned substances includes the gonadotropins LH and HCG, which are most commonly used by women as fertility drugs. They also can be used to trigger testosterone production. Testosterone is depleted by steroid use, and low testosterone can cause erectile dysfunction.

“Testosterone and similar drugs are effective for erectile dysfunction in that they jazz up your sex drive,” said Charles Yesalis, a professor at Penn State University who has testified before Congress on issues of performance-enhancing drugs. “But far more clinicians accept that affect with Viagra and Cialis. It’s hard for me to understand if it was erectile dysfunction why they would use it.”


Another physician with experience in international drug-testing said LH and HCG are occasionally prescribed for men “whose testicles have basically stopped functioning.”

The physician, who asked for anonymity because of his standing in the drug-testing community, said HCG is used to re-stimulate the testicles, primarily in men with a history of steroid use.

Ramirez tested positive for the substance during spring training, then had another portion of the same urine – a “B” sample – tested again more recently, and it also was positive. Major League Baseball notified Ramirez of the second positive test after Wednesday night’s Dodgers victory over the Washington Nationals. Ramirez admitted to having taken the substance and declined to appeal. His 50-game suspension begins Thursday.

“The substance is not a steroid and it is not human-growth hormone,” a source close to Ramirez said.

Ramirez, the source said, acquired the substance through a prescription from a doctor in Miami for his medical condition. The source intimated that Ramirez might bring legal action against the physician.

Ramirez released the following statement Thursday morning: “Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was okay to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons.

An MLB official said that if Ramirez had a legitimate need for a drug on the banned list, he could have applied for a therapeutic exemption. Ramirez, the official said, did not ask for one.

HCG most recently made news when former major leaguer and admitted steroid user Jose Canseco was caught attempting to smuggle it into the U.S. from Mexico.

The Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement stated that Canseco admitted to bringing it across the border because “he is currently on a hormone therapy plan because his testosterone levels are extremely low due to his past steroid use.”

HCG and LH were added to the banned drug list by MLB a year ago. They have been banned for male athletes by the World Anti-Doping Agency since 1987.

The Dodgers, who have won a Major League record 13 consecutive home games to start the season, will be without Ramirez until July 3. Outfielder Xavier Paul was promoted from Triple-A to take Ramirez’s place on the roster. The suspension will cost Ramirez close to $8 million in lost wages.

Dodgers CEO Jamie McCourt released the following statement: “We share the disappointment felt by our fans, our players, and every member of our organization. We support the policies of Major League Baseball, and we will welcome Manny back upon his return.”

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This whole thing is just completely f'ing up my fantasy season. lol

Andruw Jones, anyone? I'm not a fantasy baseball player. But I would guess that he might come relatively cheap these days. Then again, I don't even know if he's playing everyday. I must say, though, the guy looks like an entirely different player this year. Kudos to him. And their hitting coach, as well.

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1986: I didn't know what it was when i took it, was told its okay. = free pass.

later: 15+ years of excuses like this

2009: I didn't know what it was when i took it, was told its okay = Your a moron that can't learn: 50 games for you..

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hahahahaha... takes a Red Sox player leaving Boston for him to get caught but at least it finally happened. 2004 and 2006 are now tainted.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Its the steroid era. It's all tainted. Like the Yanks rings with Clemens, Andy 4-ts and the gang.

The Orioles 70 win seasons are also tainted. :hysterical:


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Trav - you notice how your sig is about eight times the size of everybody else's?

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EDIT: I changed my sig, is it too big, can someone please let me know lol...

If you had read the rules, you wouldn't have to ask.

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