IbleedBnG83 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 "He is playing right tackle right now" sounds like a qualifying, non-definitive statement to me."I said, 'hey, Stephon. Take that job. Go get that job.' ..." is what I would tell Stephon since he has no chance at unseating Chris Samuels at the left tackle position. Too much debate spent on Heyer. He is not a starter in this league. We need someone better at RT this year who can also play LT when Samuels is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Too much debate spent on Heyer. He is not a starter in this league. We need someone better at RT this year who can also play LT when Samuels is done. I mean, the kid was undrafted. He has started for us. I believe he's actually a starter in this league. No one is asking him to be a pro-bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the Redskins draft one of the top six OTs. It is more likely than not that he will be the planned primary starter at RT this season. If they think highly enough of an OT, other than Monroe or Smith to spend the #13 on him, you're probably right. That will be the plan. Based on the consensus of the mocks, I've seen, I don't think it's likely we will pick an OT that high because they all involve risks that Vinny will not want to take with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Phillip Daniels. He will benefit playing with Haynesworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I mean, the kid was undrafted. He has started for us. I believe he's actually a starter in this league. No one is asking him to be a pro-bowler. He started because of injury. Then when old man Jansen stepped in and did better in run support, he lost his job again. He maybe a nice swing tackle, but thats it. I'm not looking for a pro bowler perse (all though that would be nice). But I am looking for a consistant blocker at both run support and pass pro. Just like you said, he was undrafted, what can you expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Daniels Honorable Mention: Suisham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Too much debate spent on Heyer. He is not a starter in this league. We need someone better at RT this year who can also play LT when Samuels is done. Agreed. Heyer is a backup in my opinion and better backing up at the LT than the RT since he handles speed rushers relatively better than he handles bull rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 "He is playing right tackle right now" sounds like a qualifying, non-definitive statement to me."I said, 'hey, Stephon. Take that job. Go get that job.' ..." is what I would tell Stephon since he has no chance at unseating Chris Samuels at the left tackle position. Did you actually hear the audio? I think it is archived somewhere, I just don't remember where :/ That being said, even taking that I believe Vinny was saying he IS a right tackle. I've always felt he'd be better on the left side, and played a lot better there in relief of Samuels than on the Right side, so eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Agreed. Heyer is a backup in my opinion and better backing up at the LT than the RT since he handles speed rushers relatively better than he handles bull rushers. :applause: If he can't be effective in the run game, what good is he at RT. LT is his natural position and it shows. However, he is just a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Jansen, Daniels, Wynn, Griff... all of those guys are FINISHED!!! Hard to believe that those four will likely be holding down three of our starting positions until they are injured and Vinny decides to waste a high pick on some useless turd. Everyone will use the excuse that he had to make the trade though cause So-and-So got injured even though we should have never been counting on So-and-So to make it through the season in the first place. The real question is who will win the Puddin' Crap of the Year Award for player who has the biggest drop off. This one could be hotly contested with Samuels, Portis, Hall, and Big Fat Haynesworth all vying for the crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceSkinsFan Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'm going to have to agree with a few of you and say Phillip Daniels. I do think having Haynesworth there is going to make a huge difference. If he has ANYTHING left in the tank, he should log quite a few sacks. We already know he plays the run well, so it should help tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleskins Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'll say Andre Carter. Ringer: If we dont pick a LB or DE at 13. Marcus Washington may be back. He is still out there and I think we are the only team that gave him an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleskins Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Horton picks a Drew....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'm going to have to agree with a few of you and say Phillip Daniels. I do think having Haynesworth there is going to make a huge difference. If he has ANYTHING left in the tank, he should log quite a few sacks. We already know he plays the run well, so it should help tremendously. I am EXTREMELY confident that Daniels won't make it to week 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Jansen, Daniels, Wynn, Griff... all of those guys are FINISHED!!! Hard to believe that those four will likely be holding down three of our starting positions until they are injured and Vinny decides to waste a high pick on some useless turd. Everyone will use the excuse that he had to make the trade though cause So-and-So got injured even though we should have never been counting on So-and-So to make it through the season in the first place.The real question is who will win the Puddin' Crap of the Year Award for player who has the biggest drop off. This one could be hotly contested with Samuels, Portis, Hall, and Big Fat Haynesworth all vying for the crown. But, other than that -- you're optimistic about the coming season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'll say Andre Carter. Ringer: If we dont pick a LB or DE at 13. Marcus Washington may be back. He is still out there and I think we are the only team that gave him an offer. I think Carter could have a big year. He is double teamed alot and always seems to be a second or two away from the Qb. Lets see if he can take advantage of alot of 1 on 1 match ups. Cant say I am really confident in Jansen. Its possible that losing some weight could help him but I really think the guy is done. He has had so many injuries and age is not on his side anymore. I am also uncertain that Daneils and Wynn have alot left in the tank. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 i'm pulling for daniels/wynn. i feel like they both want to show everyone they can still play. plus with haynesworth up front now, it should open things up for them. if daniels and wynn can combine for 10 sacks, i will be very happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Fred Smoooot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Andre Carter is the most likely veteran to see a quantifiable bounceback in his production. Haynesworth's presence on the interior, and a more stout complement at LDE, should both combine to force more QBs out of the pocket and into the sights of AC coming off the edge. I am firmly in the camp that one veteran who WON'T be having a resurrgence, is Jon Jansen. He's completely overmatched in any pass pro scheme at this stage in his career, and was increasingly ineffectual as a run blocker as the season progressed. If ever there was a veteran whose tank is on empty, it's Jon Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Fred Smoooot. But whhhhy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 But whhhhy? Since re-joining ; Started only 20 of 32 games Only made 2 ints Has a cap number greater than ~80% of the roster. Must do more. More DL pressure. More chances for positive plays. Heres hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 I am firmly in the camp that one veteran who WON'T be having a resurrgence, is Jon Jansen. He's completely overmatched in any pass pro scheme at this stage in his career, and was increasingly ineffectual as a run blocker as the season progressed. If ever there was a veteran whose tank is on empty, it's Jon Jansen. Nah. He has a mediocre season or two left -- and right now -- mediocre is going to look good compared to the past couple of seasons at that position. Jon will be coming into this season in the best shape he's been for a while, into an easier camp and preseason, and not coming off rehab from a serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Even though he's not a Redskins vet yet I say Deangelo Hall, he actually seemed pretty pissed by not getting any pick 6's last year and I really think he has something to prove cause most the league doesn't think he deserve the money he got and with bullrushers up front never know what could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I hopeeeee it's Jansen but it'll probably be our placekicker lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I hope its Daniels and Wynn as a Duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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