Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I'm seeing this issue discussed a lot in other threads and it was discussed initially when Springs brought it up and when JLC brought it up. Still I've been thinking about this issue and I'm a bit confused. This site is full of people who say that we're supposed to build a team from the lines out. But I'm also seeing a coalition building saying that they don't want Rogers traded. This brings me to the immediate question: If trading Rogers could get us a legitimate DT, OL, (or OLB for those who say this is our weakest spot), would you do it? What if instead of bringing us a veteran player at the suggested position, it brought us a 2nd round pick to use at the suggested position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said No but it really depends on the player being traded to us. As a general rule I never answer vague hypotetical questions like the one proposed in the affermative because if you said one guy that I might say yes to you might say another I would say no to. So really depends on the player being discussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 That's an interesting proposal. I think Rogers and Hall make a great duo. But if we could get a very decent pick or a decent DL/OL trade, I would say go for it. We could eek out another season w/ Springs/Smoot at CB and Hall opposite them. A decent pass rush would give a mediocre defensive secondary some room to breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no. For some reason, I really love our first round draft picks from '05, in JC and Los. I can't really see them on another team, and would be sad if they were to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 No, he showed last season he can shut down #1 WR's, and he's our most dependable and reliable DB. If we can re-sign Hall and then re-sign Rogers sometime this year, then we'll have our DB set for a good long time. Hopefully we release Springs unless he is willing to take a massive pay cut, and make Rogers our #1, and Hall our #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzftball1756 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I think you gotta keep him. If anyone should go it should be shawn springs. We can just draft young talent on the lines if thats what we want and it would be dumb to trade a probowl caliber corner for a second round pick. He was selected in the first round a few years back how smart would it be to trade him for a second round pick to take a chance on drafting a bust when we already have a proven player. I say keep Rogers and cut springs or put him at FS and move laron back to SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 No, he showed last season he can shut down #1 WR's, and he's our most dependable and reliable DB. If we can re-sign Hall and then re-sign Rogers sometime this year, then we'll have our DB set for a good long time. Hopefully we release Springs unless he is willing to take a massive pay cut, and make Rogers our #1, and Hall our #2. But maybe we can get another Champ Bailey type deal - except this time come out as the obvious victors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no. For some reason, I really love our first round draft picks from '05, in JC and Los. I can't really see them on another team, and would be sad if they were to leave. Well if Campbell doesn't lead the Skins to the playoffs this upcoming season, I don't think he'll be retained. It's sad that we'll never get to see or know what Campbell's potential could have been. If only we could have left an offensive system in for more than 2 years, instead of hiring a new o-coordinator every year and having them bring in a new scheme with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no. For some reason, I really love our first round draft picks from '05, in JC and Los. I can't really see them on another team, and would be sad if they were to leave. Wow, thats a unique opinion around these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow, thats a unique opinion around these parts. Well, if you haven't noticed, I'm quite the unique guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 But maybe we can get another Champ Bailey type deal - except this time come out as the obvious victors.... I don't think Rogers is on the level Bailey was a few years ago, I think at best we're looking at a mid-to-low 2nd round draft pick for Rogers. I don't think we're able to trade him for another superstar player, unless we trade Rogers and a 1st round pick for a guy like Boldin, or even worse Ocho Cinco. This sad thing is the FO would probably make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no. For some reason, I really love our first round draft picks from '05, in JC and Los. I can't really see them on another team, and would be sad if they were to leave. I was at Draft Day that year. check this out: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 ^^^Didn't mean to hijack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I think it depends on a couple of things: 1. What pick(s) we get 2. Whether or not we re-sign D. Hall 3. Rogers' attitude 4. CB's acquirable in free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 I don't think Rogers is on the level Bailey was a few years ago, I think at best we're looking at a mid-to-low 2nd round draft pick for Rogers. I don't think we're able to trade him for another superstar player, unless we trade Rogers and a 1st round pick for a guy like Boldin, or even worse Ocho Cinco. This sad thing is the FO would probably make that trade. Oh, he's nowhere near Bailey's level of a few years ago. But I'm not necessarily saying that we need a guy like Portis back though. I was thinking more about guys who might be in contract disputes or maybe are in a log-jam at a position and don't want to be the backup. I figure there are probably some people out there who would be willing to part with some of these players before their contract is up. The thing that makes me doubt such a move is possible is that GMs may realize that teams are built from the lines out, and be less willing to trade those quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins-in-CT Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no but I don't think we NEED to keep him. It depends on what happens with free agency and other moves (like cuts), really. If we decide to let Springs go then I think we keep Rogers to start opposite Hall. If we don't re-sign Hall then we will need Carlos and Springs. If we don't cut Springs then maybe we can get a pick for Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I hope we dont. I'd rather we re-signed both Rogers and Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Depends on the Hall situation. If we can sign him without having to pay alot then yes. We got more than enough talent at the CB position. Would love to have Hall and Rogers though. Or sign Rogers and let Hall go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 IMO it depends on what we can get for him. If we can get a 2nd rounder, I would do it in a second, and draft Victor Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrugger Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I think is just approaching his potential last year and we have the opportunity to have Hall, Rogers, Smoot and Horton in our secondary for the next 5 to 8 years. That said, I think every player should be available at the right price. I wouldnt want to give him up for anything less than a 1st tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I said no. Why weaken one area in an attempt to make another better and its not going to be a probowl lineman? This zero sum gain nonsense has to stop. The guy rebounded quickly from major knee surgery that takes two years for a person to be at pre surgery levels plays at an excellant level for a team with no pass rush that for some reason fans here can't see. If the skins foolishly move him as they did Ryan Clark I'll just wish him luck and success where he lands then roll my eyes if he goes to a team with a credible defensive line. With our luck he'll go to the pokes in 2010 and do what pacman couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CounterTrey75 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 meh, if we do get rid of him, we should get a defensive lineman that will perssure the QB into making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Team Ever Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Los is one of our young talented players...No to trading him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Los is one of our young talented players...No to trading him! Not even if it could get us a dominant D-Line - which would lead to more sacks and more picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Not even if it could get us a dominant D-Line - which would lead to more sacks and more picks? That's on the FO though. They shouldn't have to deal one of our best young players to cover up mistakes made in the past. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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