darrelgreenie Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I support him. I think that other players need to step up besides CP - but he still needs to fix his scheme a little. But you're right, Rome wasn't built in a day. Tom Coughlin finished 6-10 his first year and lost 6 of his last 7...then went 11-5. Reid started 5-11. Hell, even the great Joe Gibbs finished 8-8. The success of the other rookie HCs this year is unusual. The first year is hard. It doesn't help when your OL is decrepit and no one playing on the team gives a **** (except for CP and a FEW select others) Although, i gripe like everyone else: http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=274272 Talk of firing the Z-man is crazy! Campbell is playing at a higher level this year. The team is doing far better then most expected at the start of the season. IMO Zorn is a victim of his early success. Let him re-tool the offensive line. Let him get some coaches in here that know the WCO. How can everyone blame Vinnie for having sub-par talent on one hand then ask for the over-achieving coach's head? Crazy! 3 more years! 3 more years! 3 more years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I wouldn't mind another coach if it meant Vinny was gone. I think what matters is whether he still has the lockerroom. If he has lost the team; then he's good as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The one star rating brings the lolz. He lost the team and the fanbase in a month's time. Lane Kiffin would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedlightG20 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 exactly why do you support him throwing him under the bus?dungy, bellicheat, gibbs. never heard of them doing anything like that. Not that I believe any of them would do that, but it not always makes news when a coach and player have issues. Despite what you don't hear, it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I Support CP, What coach would bench their top player? Portis goes to meetings does everything the coaches ask and gets benched for Betts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 exactly why do you support him throwing him under the bus?dungy, bellicheat, gibbs. never heard of them doing anything like that. Throwing WHO under the bus? Portis? Haven't you got that a little scrwewed up? To the OP, what Mark said. 100% behind OUR Coach too. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetus Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Zorn is the coach and should be for a while I support him completely its funny how no matter what people on here always want a new coach if we are doing poorly... remember how this guy went form qb coach to head coach in a matter of week this is expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 we all need a little support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Don't worry, we didn't miss your impulsive foolishness before. Thanks for repeating one of the most retarded posts made on ES.Not only is there zero proof that anything like what was posted did happen, you also blindly used it to combat against Zorn to push your own cause. You fail and are full of suck. Except that LL56 has been found to be 100% right on more than one occasion. He doesn't just post hypothetical or "a guy said" kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Zorn is a rookie HC. He coaches like a rookie and acts like a rookie. OJT is painful. Lets just hope he learns to be a HC before he totally loses the team. That includes getting through to Clinton and reaching some sort of happy medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Running backs are easy enough to replace. Just ask this forum. An RB is just as good as his line. That was their justification for Betts' awesome year in 06, and excuse for Clinton's high yards, low ypc year in '07. Zorn is a first year head coach. He's still, for all intents and purposes, a rookie. Clinton Portis is a vastly overpaid rb, who is used to being able to tell the coach when he wants in or out of the game. People here laugh at other teams for their prima donnas, but they sing Portis' praises. If one of them has to go, I hope it's Portis. He's not going to get any better. He's a high mileage rb. What I'd prefer is for Zorn to man up and do to Portis what Singletary did to Davis in SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Except that LL56 has been found to be 100% right on more than one occasion. He doesn't just post hypothetical or "a guy said" kind of stuff. Thanks for backing me up there in my absense... It's called reading between the lines and taking everything into consideration. Some of these guys need to try that.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 if anything this whole nonsense got Portis to show up for practice this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HortonWho48 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I liked Zorn. Until he started throwing his players under the bus. He may not directly call them out (other than the recent portis incident) but i have yet to hear him take blame for anything in the game. Its always "the line didnt block", "we didnt catch the ball", "couldnt convert on 3rd down" ...that kinda garbage wears on the players and dosent settle well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displaced Fan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I say give him atleast another year. Once we fix the O-line we can go back to the way it was in the beginning of the season. :point2sky:cincysuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsaddict Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 if anything this whole nonsense got Portis to show up for practice this week... ding ding ding. i bet CP has a new attitude towards parcticing if he ever wants to see the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAAZ227 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I support zorn. We've got to give him some time. I hope CP is trying to throw some fire on everyone like he did earlier this season. Ever since his lashed out on his oline the went on a streak. Of course the media is going to talk about this all week and blow it way out of proportion. Zorn and CP better work this **** out and focus on the bangles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Fan in Richmond Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I liked Zorn. Until he started throwing his players under the bus. He may not directly call them out (other than the recent portis incident) but i have yet to hear him take blame for anything in the game. Its always "the line didnt block", "we didnt catch the ball", "couldnt convert on 3rd down" ...that kinda garbage wears on the players and dosent settle well. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsaddict Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 i like what the guy on ESPN said "this is like a fight with your wife, no one will win, so you better just go ahead and settle it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Because Portis mouthed off Zorns approval is down? Not because we have the worst offensive and defensive lines in the league? I feel sorry for Zorn. Hes doing the best that he can with what he has - he is honest, he is hardworking, and hes trying to do what he thinks is best for the team. He walked into a hornets nest combo of possessed fans, flawed team, a new system, and a volatile organization. I can understand Portis, and I can understand Zorn. Zorn thought Betts was better prepared because he practiced, and so Zorn thought it was better for the team to have Betts out there. Then the next day Portis goes off on the radio and everyone is calling for Zorn's head. When we were 6-2 Zorn was coach of the year. Now we've lost 4 times in 5 weeks because we've played BETTER teams who have BETTER personnel because their BETTER front offices had BETTER drafts and offseason moves? And thats Zorns fault for inheriting it? Zorn is not Gibbs. No one will be. This is his first go around, and he doesnt have the experience of being able to rally a team just yet. He shouldn't have to be responsible for that - these guys are professionals making millions - its up to them to play up to their potential. And they may be, but for the last month, our team just havent been good enough. Zorn deserves better and at least a second year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsaddict Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Amen excuse my ignorance, but were you watching the same games? we were dropping passes, blowing coverage, and not blocking and overall, not getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhensl1 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Except that LL56 has been found to be 100% right on more than one occasion. He doesn't just post hypothetical or "a guy said" kind of stuff. yea anyone who said that was a retarded post youre wrong. im not blaming you but just letting you know that telling LL56 that he is wrong is like telling one of the players in the lockerroom that they dont know whats goin on in there. the guy has legit info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsaddict Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 yea anyone who said that was a retarded post youre wrong. im not blaming you but just letting you know that telling LL56 that he is wrong is like telling one of the players in the lockerroom that they dont know whats goin on in there. the guy has legit info there is nothing in that post that wouldnt be a learning opportunity for a new coach. the players sure kept their mouth shut when we were winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkins2006 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Before the ravens game I would have agreed with you...but after seeing him put a backup center at strong side tackle...I just don't know anymore...not only that but geisinger is now hurt because of it. Just a really really REALLY dumb move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I support him only in the sense that we need continuance/continuity for success. Time to gel, be on the same accord, be familiar, get comfortable, gain confidence, etc. You can't achieve that blowing up the team season after season with philosophy changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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