Thiebear Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Should all parents that have anal sex have their children removed? By the standards of people on this board: yes. The only difference between Gay couples and "regular" couples is the way they have sex. So if a regular couple has sex in said same way or others that could be considered "abnormal" should they immediately have the children removed and placed in foster care? (in the question as to Gods issue): I thought Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt to the ground with men/women/children inside so.... he ideas are well documented?? could be wrong. I've been divorced twice: Should i have my children removed and put in foster care due to my inability to maintain a 'normal' marriage? me picking them up everyday for school should suffice as my time to see them before dropping them off at the center. I'm amazed that Felons that break Gods law can have children VISIT them in Jail and there is no outcry. But another human being that doesn't think the same way as you do can not. This whole hate the sin, love the sinner thing isnt catching on after 2000 years? So i guess it comes back down to: let you that has not broken any of Gods law go forth and remove the children from those that have. I believe we had a poll on the 10 commandments and the it was lacking in its ability to be followed. hence the record number of people in jail. the alcohol sales. the trillion dollar porn industry and record number of divorces. But.. As long as you have someone you considere even Lower on the God caste system to point to, it makes you feel beter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Should homosexuals be allowed to have kids? I'm confused about this. Who exactly is stopping them from having their own kids? As for the other two I don't see why eligible gays should be denied. It's better than these kids not having homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Its in the Bible. Homosexuality is a sin in the Bible and sin that obviously gay couples are not repenting of and by allowing them to adobt society is saying we approve of your lifestyle. Also the soul you entrust to them to raise will be raised to believe that this lifestyle is ok. Sorry, God's stance is pretty clear on this. He doesnt say dont let gay couples adopt but he is very clear on sexual immorality and specifically homosexuality. Just my opinion based off my beliefs. Its not popular but if we are a country based off Christian values why would we allow children to be placed in this situations. God also says that adultry is an abomination...so let's go find all straight parents who have commited this sin and take the kids away..:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchild Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 God also says that adultry is an abomination...so let's go find all straight parents who have commited this sin and take the kids away..:doh: No one is saying to take kids away from anyone. But if your saying you want to place a kid in the home of a family that is non-repentative and represents a lifestyle that can corrup the child then I cant agree with you (this goes for same sex marriages, abusive parents, families with alcholism, etc). You have to take a stand somewhere. This is just one of the stand you have to take as a follower of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchild Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Should all parents that have anal sex have their children removed? By the standards of people on this board: yes.The only difference between Gay couples and "regular" couples is the way they have sex. So if a regular couple has sex in said same way or others that could be considered "abnormal" should they immediately have the children removed and placed in foster care? (in the question as to Gods issue): I thought Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt to the ground with men/women/children inside so.... he ideas are well documented?? could be wrong. I've been divorced twice: Should i have my children removed and put in foster care due to my inability to maintain a 'normal' marriage? me picking them up everyday for school should suffice as my time to see them before dropping them off at the center. I'm amazed that Felons that break Gods law can have children VISIT them in Jail and there is no outcry. But another human being that doesn't think the same way as you do can not. This whole hate the sin, love the sinner thing isnt catching on after 2000 years? So i guess it comes back down to: let you that has not broken any of Gods law go forth and remove the children from those that have. I believe we had a poll on the 10 commandments and the it was lacking in its ability to be followed. hence the record number of people in jail. the alcohol sales. the trillion dollar porn industry and record number of divorces. But.. As long as you have someone you considere even Lower on the God caste system to point to, it makes you feel beter. If you consider yourself a Christian you have to answer the questions or decisions in your life with the direction God gives us. Example, Should gay couples be allowed to adopt kids? What does God say? In the Bible God says this is a sin and not an allowable lifestyle. I would then vote to not allow gay couples to adopt since I would be saying its ok to put a child in a relationship that is not acceptable to God and the family is non-repentative of their sins. Another example would be divorce, should I get divorced. What does the Bible say about divorce? Jesus says its not ok to divorce your wife unless she commits adultry or leaves? So I would remain married and try to love her as the Bible stated. These are just examples of some of the decisions each person has to make for themselves. I let the Bible guide me in my decisions where some other people just do what they feel as right or makes since to them. This is just my opinion. But my opinion is backed up by my beliefs. You either believe everything in the Bible is god breathed or you dont. If you dont believe in some parts then you might as well throw out the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 No one is saying to take kids away from anyone. But if your saying you want to place a kid in the home of a family that is non-repentative and represents a lifestyle that can corrup the child then I cant agree with you (this goes for same sex marriages, abusive parents, families with alcholism, etc). You have to take a stand somewhere. This is just one of the stand you have to take as a follower of God. So all of these foster homes should operate as Christian entities and if you are not Christian than too bad??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Nevermind, I really don't want to get involved with this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If you consider yourself a Christian you have to answer the questions or decisions in your life with the direction God gives us. Example, Should gay couples be allowed to adopt kids? What does God say? In the Bible God says this is a sin and not an allowable lifestyle. I would then vote to not allow gay couples to adopt since I would be saying its ok to put a child in a relationship that is not acceptable to God and the family is non-repentative of their sins. So you'd support a law that prohibits all adoption by all families who aren't Certified Christian? 'Cause I seem to remember the Bible not exactly approving of people not being Christian, too. :halo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 So you'd support a law that prohibits all adoption by all families who aren't Certified Christian? 'Cause I seem to remember the Bible not exactly approving of people not being Christian, too. :halo: :applause: exactly larry, We might as well add in there anyone who has committed adultry, has a tattoo or eats pork...just another example of people picking and chosing bible verses. Or people who think that Christians are the only 'good' people out there. One doesn't need to be a Christian to have morals and lead a good lifestyle. I am getting from manchild's posts that he thinks only Christians are best suited to raise kids. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I say yes maybe the resurgence in people wanting adoptions would then decline the abortion rate, wishful thinking I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Absolutely. There is an overabundance of kids needing adoption/foster parents. Why deny the kids? If there were enough "traditional" families looking to adopt etc, then it might be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 God also says that adultry is an abomination...so let's go find all straight parents who have commited this sin and take the kids away..:doh: Stop reaching. The government don't take kids away when some scumbag male or female commits adultery. The wronged spouse if she is in a state that have laws on the books can have him/her either arrested or charge with a misdemeanor. Yeah our society is has dumbed down morality so much that cheating/ adultery is looked at as no big deal until the jilted does something like set the car or spouse on fire in a public setting or something more destructive that gets it in the headlines. The divorce if it goes that far does favor the victim in that situation for getting the children. And yeah I find anal sex straight or otherwise disgusting but thats on you to indulge. How can gays have their own children if they are gay other than artificial means? Gays adopting? Hmm yeah right, I'm quite sure a boy raised in a two dad environment won't influence his sexual preference and the answer to that is if the boy becomes a fudge packer so what? whats wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hmm yeah right, I'm quite sure a boy raised in a two dad environment won't influence his sexual preference and the answer to that is if the boy becomes a fudge packer so what? whats wrong with that? I'm confused...is this your reason for not wanting gay couples to adopt? Where do all the gays come from anyway. Oh that's right, straight couples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'm confused...is this your reason for not wanting gay couples to adopt?Where do all the gays come from anyway. Oh that's right, straight couples. But dont you get it it is like a disease and some people get unlucky and come from straight parents but if both parents were gay oh my god! The gay would be like the plague and spread and before you know it the human race would become extinct becuase we would all catch the gay and no one would procreate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hmm yeah right, I'm quite sure a boy raised in a two dad environment won't influence his sexual preference and the answer to that is if the boy becomes a fudge packer so what? whats wrong with that? So gheys spread the ghey.........................right gothcha.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If God created it, he loves it. You should try the same. These folks are good people looking to make a commitment? I thought Christians hated promiscuity? Hmm I created something in the commode but I don't love it. We do, as well as a sin that the majority all religions view same sexual activity as being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hmm I created something in the commode but I don't love it.We do, as well as a sin that the majority all religions view same sexual activity as being A majority of religions or a majority of religious people, because the majority of religions do not view homosexuality as wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajamrani Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 No i do not think that they should adopt kids or should not even be allowed to get married. If homosexuals do have kids, then their kids are gonna grow up to be homosexuals etc etc etc.... just my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 No i do not think that they should adopt kids or should not even be allowed to get married.If homosexuals do have kids, then their kids are gonna grow up to be homosexuals etc etc etc.... just my opinion! And what do you base this opinion on. Has it been shown that prolonged exposure to homosexuals makes you homosexual. Do you have any studies that prove this. If so I would love to see them beucase that would be quite an amazing breakthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 And what do you base this opinion on. Has it been shown that prolonged exposure to homosexuals makes you homosexual. Do you have any studies that prove this. If so I would love to see them beucase that would be quite an amazing breakthrough. Here is a question for you shk5. If it could be proven that kids adopted by homosexuals have a high percentage of being gay as well, would that matter to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Stop reaching.The government don't take kids away when some scumbag male or female commits adultery. The wronged spouse if she is in a state that have laws on the books can have him/her either arrested or charge with a misdemeanor. Yeah our society is has dumbed down morality so much that cheating/ adultery is looked at as no big deal until the jilted does something like set the car or spouse on fire in a public setting or something more destructive that gets it in the headlines. The divorce if it goes that far does favor the victim in that situation for getting the children. And yeah I find anal sex straight or otherwise disgusting but thats on you to indulge. How can gays have their own children if they are gay other than artificial means? Gays adopting? Hmm yeah right, I'm quite sure a boy raised in a two dad environment won't influence his sexual preference and the answer to that is if the boy becomes a fudge packer so what? whats wrong with that? first I wasn't reaching, I was being sarcastic. Hence the :doh:... second, there is nothing to show that if two gay parents, gay men or lesbians, raise a child that the child is more likely to come out gay. I've said before, I bet I know of at least 30 or more kids, raised by gay parents. I know 2 of them who are gay. And in actuality, one of them was raised by her straight dad and her mom(the lesbian) was not really involved in much of her life. 3rd- just because someone is gay doesn't mean they haven't or wouldn't have sex w/ the opposite gender (for fun or purposely to have a kid). With that said, numerous gay male friends of mine have told me SO many stories of "straight" married men that they have slept with. And I can tell you just from hanging out at a gay bar, there are TONS of "straight" married men who come in there to get a BJ or whatever it is they can't get from their wives. Also, there are sperm banks all over, it's not hard to get pregnant if you really want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Here is a question for you shk5. If it could be proven that kids adopted by homosexuals have a high percentage of being gay as well, would that matter to you? I've been patiently waiting for YEARS to have someone show me a study or some documentation (other than sheer opinion) that it makes a difference. If gay parents raise gay kids, then why don't all straight parents raise straight kids? Both my parents were straight. Only one of my gay friends was raised by a gay parent. Out of the thousands of gay/lesbain people I have met in my life, only a 2 had a gay parent. You do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Here is a question for you shk5. If it could be proven that kids adopted by homosexuals have a high percentage of being gay as well, would that matter to you? I'm not shk5, but I say it doesn't make a difference. If two consenting adults are in a loving relationship then why would I want to prevent them from raising kids? The benefits of a two parent household aren't based in the gender(s) of then parents, but in the love those two parents display for each other and their kids. If those kids end up being gay, who cares? They don't choose to be gay or straight any more than they choose to be black, white, or anything between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Here is a question for you shk5. If it could be proven that kids adopted by homosexuals have a high percentage of being gay as well, would that matter to you? Well it would matter in that if everyone was gay that would mean the end of the human race so if you said %75 percent of people adopted by gay parents turn gay than yes I would say that is bad but if it was like %2 I would not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins0756 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I agree there are probably a lot of "ninja" votes up there especially with the high turnout of "No" voters replying in this thread. While I respect your opinion, I just don't support homosexuals adopting children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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