Bucaro Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/29/doles-godless-ad-causes-stir/ (CNN) — The already-contentious North Carolina Senate race took a brutal turn Wednesday after incumbent Sen. Elizabeth Dole released a television ad suggesting challenger Kay Hagan is "Godless." “A leader of the Godless Americans PAC recently held a secret fundraiser for Kay Hagan,” the 30-second ad says before showing clips from members of the group declaring God and Jesus do not exist. “Godless Americans and Kay Hagan. She hid from cameras. Took godless money,” the ad's narrator also says. “What did Kay Hagan promise in return?” Watch: Dole hits airwaves with 'Godless' ad The ad ends with a female voice declaring, "There is no God." That quote is delivered by someone who sounds like Hagan, but those words have never been said by the candidate. The Dole campaign says it's basing its charge on Hagan's attendance at a fundraiser that was in the home of an advisor to the Godless Americans’ political action committee, a group that promotes rights for atheists. In a conference call with reporters Wednesday, Hagan said she has never heard of the Godless PAC and said the fundraiser in question had more than 40 hosts, including Sen. John Kerry. She also said she has contacted her lawyers to issue a cease-and-desist order on the commercial. "I am absolutely appalled at Elizabeth Dole's vile tactics," Hagan said. “This is politics of the worst kind, and I know it has been rejected by North Carolinians at every level. It is so unbecoming of a woman like Elizabeth Dole. This is a fabricated, pathetic ad." Hagan went on to strongly defend her faith: "I am a Sunday school teacher, I am an elder at First Presbyterian Church in Greensboro, my family has been going to this church for over 100 years, I have raised my children there. I have been involved in youth missions." A National Republican Senatorial Committee spokesman defended the ad. "Kay Hagan recently attended a fundraiser held in the home of a founding member of the Godless Americans PAC," Online Communications Director John Randall said. "Now Hagan believes it is unfair to associate her with the group even though the soiree raised her thousands of dollars in campaign cash. I guess money is more important to Hagan than principles." Recent polls suggest Hagan — a Democratic state senator from Greensboro who began the race at a major money disadvantage to Dole — is now leading the incumbent slightly with only days remaining before Election Day. Another sad day in US politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I hate politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 What a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 she's just pissed she is going to lose North Carolina's senate race. She's been behind in the polls there for about a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 godless. terrorist. war dodger. its just all out of hand and really more then I want to accept. where is Monty Brewster when you need someone to run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 What a macaca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Yep. Just as bad as this from her opponents: Body Armor Claim: Still False and Nasty October 24, 2008 http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/body_armor_claim_still_false_and_nasty.html Liberal vets group attacks Dole, recycling one of the worst 'Whoppers of 2006.' SummaryThe liberal group VoteVets.org is running an ad claiming that Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole "voted against giving our troops" life-saving body armor. It's a slightly revised version of an ad the same group ran against four GOP senators in the 2006 election. The claim was false and nasty then, and it's false and nasty now. The truth is that there was never a vote to deny body armor to troops, period. Neither of the two funding measures Vote Vets now cites in support of its claim mention body armor specifically, and neither could have resulted in the purchase of more body armor. At the time, the military was already buying every piece of body armor the economy could produce, and Pentagon officials said funding was sufficient. See link for full nastiness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMat184 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Yet another example as to why a lot of Americans are absolutely disgusted with politics...This is extremely disturbing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 she's just pissed she is going to lose North Carolina's senate race. She's been behind in the polls there for about a month. You are absolutely correct. Not to mention, she has done nothing for NC since she has been a senator except help make the rich richer. She ran the same kind of race the last time she was up for re-election (though I'll admit, not as bad as this go round). She really is a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Amazing that the party that had full control 2 years ago is so desperate such a short time later. Unless something really surprising happens the GOP is going to suffer a crushing loss in 6 days. Good. Time to kick out the goons that took over the party and bring back the "paleo-conservatives". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Yep. Just as bad as this from her opponents Except that wasn't from the campaign itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 As if "godless" is a bad thing. Well I guess in that part of the country, it's the equivalent of a child molestor or wife beater. I guess I'll have to thank "god" I live in a more civilized region of the country where being an atheist isn't tantamount to being a deviant criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I hear some of the atheists were black too. Christ, this is disgusting. Actually, let's have fun with this. What did she promise them? That she will have Barney Frank dress up as Jesus every Halloween and be sodomized by a black man on the Capital Steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucaro Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 Except that wasn't from the campaign itself. Agreed. And, politicians, for as long as I remember, say the other person voted or didn't vote for a particular thing that was embedded in another bill that they approve/dissapprove of. That is classic politician. Attacking someones faith, someone who is an elder at a church her family has been attending for over 100 years, is really low...even for politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Except that wasn't from the campaign itself.True, but you sure don't see any Democrat candidate denying it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Except that wasn't from the campaign itself. And of course, Dole didnt call her Godless either. But dont let facts get in the way of the vitriol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Agreed. And, politicians, for as long as I remember, say the other person voted or didn't vote for a particular thing that was embedded in another bill that they approve/dissapprove of. That is classic politician. Attacking someones faith, someone who is an elder at a church her family has been attending for over 100 years, is really low...even for politiciansObviously that's pretty low. Kind of on par with scaremongering Senior Citizens about Medicare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 And of course, Dole didnt call her Godless either.But dont let facts get in the way of the vitriol. Yeah, I noticed that. But you have to admit it was obviously implied that her opponent "made a deal with the devil." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 And of course, Dole didnt call her Godless either.But dont let facts get in the way of the vitriol. Are you seriously going to defend this ad? Whether they said it or not, the power of suggestion is very strong and its obvious what they were getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 And of course, Dole didnt call her Godless either.But dont let facts get in the way of the vitriol. Technically? No. In practice? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Dole may not be that great but Hagan has bene horrible here in NC and having her in Washington would be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Dole may not be that great but Hagan has bene horrible here in NC and having her in Washington would be even worse. You're going to have to follow that up with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I think it's perfectly acceptable to show the voters who your opponent associates themselves with, both for money and for policy. Every Dem in the nation is claiming their opponent is part of Bush's Govt. Pointing out that Hagan accepted money from this group is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060308_doles_fundraiser_disguised_as_tax_form/ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/02/doles-dirty-money/ http://crooksandliars.com/2008/04/29/join-in-tell-elizabeth-dole-to-stop-racist-attack-ads-against-barack-obama/ (This video is a perfect example of her personality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 You're going to have to follow that up with something.You're gonna ask Brandi that same question right?You are absolutely correct. Not to mention, she has done nothing for NC since she has been a senator except help make the rich richer. She ran the same kind of race the last time she was up for re-election (though I'll admit, not as bad as this go round). She really is a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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