zoony Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Let me guess he looked good against backups, right? which is more than we can say for thomas or kelly. actually, they weren't even backups. it was the third string/cut/practice squad group that thomas looked completely lost against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Zoony, you CANNOT call Kelly and Thomas busts when they have not play ONE game that counts. Yea they have had a bad camp with injuries and no production but **** pre season and throw out the stats. Cerrato said that when he drafted TO, in his rookie camp, he couldnt catch anything and they almost put him on PS, but kept him and he turned out pretty good. I...I don't know where to start with you. You say nothing about the Eagles secondary despite the fact they could arguably have the best if not second best in the division. Similarly, they have a pair of 10+ sack people as their DE's but you say ours are vastly superior based on....? What exactly? You call Westbrook over rated then seek to put Portis as the best back in the division? You rant about Kelly and Thomas not being called a bust, despite one not playing in preseason and one playing horribly...but you rail against DeSean Jackson and give him absolutely no credit despite the fact he's done great this preseason. You give the nod to Campbell simply based off his arm strength, while ignoring every other thing that makes up a QB. Your comments about McNabb are laughable and he's shown previously that, when healthy, he's a top 10 QB in the league. I second the person that said we found Larry Michael's screen name. What's most laughable is the fact you started your post with "Lets be real". That gives the impression you're going to give a neutral, well reasoned, fair analysis of the division akin to what Zoony did. Instead, you went full on homer saying we're apparently the best at EVERYTHING in the division save for the WR, which just doesn't really bare to reality or history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 6-10 is my prediction as well. Prior to the Carolina game I was thinking 10-6 or 9-7, I admit it. But good teams don't get bent over the way we did against Carolina. That was an epic ass-kicking, and should have been a wake up call to the fanbase. And I'm tired of hearing about how it's just preseason and doesn't matter. Bull****- and everyone not wearing B&G glasses knows it. Last years loss to the Patriots was pretty similar and we still made the playoffs. If the Carolina and Jacksonville games mean anything its that we're still as inconsistent as we were under Gibbs and that its pretty much impossible to predict how well we'll do over any given stretch. I'd also say that its way too soon to call either Thomas or Kelly busts (unless you happen to know them personally and have insight into their mindset). If Thomas is fated to be another Troy Williamson we will know by early next season and Kelly will be pretty easy to figure out based on his ability to stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 6-10 is my prediction as well. Prior to the Carolina game I was thinking 10-6 or 9-7, I admit it. But good teams don't get bent over the way we did against Carolina. That was an epic ass-kicking, and should have been a wake up call to the fanbase. And I'm tired of hearing about how it's just preseason and doesn't matter. Bull****- and everyone not wearing B&G glasses knows it. Exactly! I was thinking we would go 9-7 and squeek into the playoffs again. After the Carolina game..........whoa Nelly! The team was just flat and we have to play some top defenses in the league this year. I handed my B&G glasses to my wife at halftime during the Carolina game and told her to burn them. 6-10 would be an accomplishment this year. Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLF Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 a guy walks into a bar and there's a cow tending bar.the cow looks at the guy and says "whats the matter, surprised to see me here?" the guy says "yah, did the horse sell the place?" :puke:That was horrible. Theres really nothin else to be said about the team until Thursday night. All this bickering about preseason play means absolutely nothing. The blowout against the Panthers will go out the window if we beat the Gay men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 :puke:That was horrible.Theres really nothin else to be said about the team until Thursday night. All this bickering about preseason play means absolutely nothing. The blowout against the Panthers will go out the window if we beat the Gay men. Ok, so our starters vs. the Panthers starters for 2 quarters of play mean nothing? hello.......they out scored us 34-0 at the ****ing half.If you even say that we quit playing defense after Taylor got hurt (and it looked like we did) then I am going to scream. Our offense is flat and don't even toss in the "Vanilla reference" if you do I'm officially pulling your man card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Waiting for this thread to be closed..................................... ...................................:doh: .......................:thud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 It's a very homer-ish analysis, but nothin wrong with that on the official Skins forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Waiting for this thread to be closed........................................................................:doh: .......................:thud: Why? It's a good topic. Would you like to post in the [blank didn't make the roster] rant posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Let's clean that up a bit, shall we?QB McNabb- finally back 100% healthy, which puts him back as the best QB in the NFC East Romo sits to pee-would still be good even without TO. Eli-would be considerably less dangerous without Plaxico, but still would be a good QB Campbell- has one of the worst w-l records in entire NFL among starting QBs. Has shown absolutely no consistency or ability in clutch situations. Still gets a free pass from Redskins fans because he's a 1st round pick. Offensive line Giants Skins Cowboys Eagles Wide Receivers Cowboys- TO factor Giants- Plax and then young talent. Skins- Moss , EL , Thomas and Kelly are busts. 2nd worst corps in the East Eagles- pathetic RB Skins- Portis, Betts Eagles- Westbrook is best in Division, but edge to skins b/c of better depth Cowboys- Barber unproven as featured back, but dangerous. Jones unproven, looks like he sucks so far though Giants- :jerk: D-line 4 way tie imo with the injury to Osi, otherwise Giants are 1 Game, set and match....Zoony. And refreshing to see some honesty on this site. The only think I would disagree with is the offensive line assessment. You have us ranked too high. It is also nice to see someone recognize that a great running back doesn't necessarily translate to wins. We don't need the best rb in the league. We need the best team in the league. We can accomplish that with an average, or slightly above average rb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRK Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 we may be fielding the best defense in the division this year....pressure up front combined with a great secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRK Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 wow, my first post outside of the classifieds section....I suppose I should have typed something more profound, but it will have to do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Skins4Ever1- I hope you either enjoy keeping this thread going every week as we keep winning, or (much more likely) have a great sense of humor about yourself as this thread is bumped over and over and over again for 16 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskns n 05 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Lets be real here for a minute. The super bowl rep for the NFC is coming out of the NFC east. Lets look at this from a realistic angle. Lets break down the positions. Here is my rankings.QB Campbell- best arm in the division Romo sits to pee-would be nothing without TO Eli-would be nothing without Plax McNabb- he is too old to play Offensive line Skins Giants Cowboys Eagles Wide Receivers Cowboys- TO factor Skins- Moss , EL , Thomas and Kelly are NASTY Giants- Plax and then who? Eagles- pathetic RB Skins- Portis, Betts enough said Giants- Cowboys Eagles- Westbrook is ok but overrated D-line Skins- Taylor and Carter enough said Giants- not as good now Cowboys-Ware is a player Eagles- who do they have on their line that is good? LBRs Skins- Fletcher, Washington McCintosh enough said Cowboys Giants Eagles- who are those guys again? exactly Secondary Skins- Landry, Springs, Smoot, Rogers exactly Cowboys- loaded Giants- pretty good Eagles When I break it down I see a super bowl caliber team. I agree but, we have been saying this every off season for years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD.C RedskinsFan Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 :puke:That was horrible.Theres really nothin else to be said about the team until Thursday night. All this bickering about preseason play means absolutely nothing. The blowout against the Panthers will go out the window if we beat the Gay men. qft I am so ready for the end of speculation. And that's all it is speculation. Now is the perfect time to not lean too far in either direction and just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshirtguy#45 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 we may be fielding the best defense in the division this year....pressure up front combined with a great secondary great secondary? rogers coming off injusry, landry is being counted on to come in from being out all pre season from an injury. the up front pressure may help hide some of the problems in the secondary... we shall see if that is what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 How about ranking offensive cohesiveness, coaching experience, and number of years QB is under the same system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ted Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 i can honestly say I've never heard the term "superbowlish team' until tonight. i dont agree with this guys points, this team will be lucky to get 7 wins. QB is weak, OL is overrated, as usual RB is strong, WR isn't what it should be, DL is questionable, they still cant get pressure up the middle, LB is a bit above average and the secondary isnt great either. special teams isnt eactly the best, im not sold on SS kicking. i threw special teams in since a "superbowlish" team cant go anywhere without great special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Now here's a guy that's got it alllllll figured out! I love it! Love the way your thinking sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Every year before the season starts I'm talking **** about how we're going to the SB. I'm not even saying a word about it this year. In fact, I feel pretty nervous about even being able to go 8-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli to Burress Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Let's clean that up a bit, shall we?QB McNabb- finally back 100% healthy, which puts him back as the best QB in the NFC East Romo sits to pee-would still be good even without TO. Eli-would be considerably less dangerous without Plaxico, but still would be a good QB Campbell- has one of the worst w-l records in entire NFL among starting QBs. Has shown absolutely no consistency or ability in clutch situations. Still gets a free pass from Redskins fans because he's a 1st round pick. Offensive line Giants Skins Cowboys Eagles Wide Receivers Cowboys- TO factor Giants- Plax and then young talent. Skins- Moss , EL , Thomas and Kelly are busts. 2nd worst corps in the East Eagles- pathetic RB Skins- Portis, Betts Eagles- Westbrook is best in Division, but edge to skins b/c of better depth Cowboys- Barber unproven as featured back, but dangerous. Jones unproven, looks like he sucks so far though Giants- :jerk: D-line 4 way tie imo with the injury to Osi, otherwise Giants are 1 Do you really believe the Giants RB's are the worst in the division? Last year the Giants not only had the best rushing attack in the division they were 4th in the league. With everyone returning healthy to start the year they easily have the best rushing attack in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Do you really believe the Giants RB's are the worst in the division? Last year the Giants not only had the best rushing attack in the division they were 4th in the league. With everyone returning healthy to start the year they easily have the best rushing attack in the division. No. No they don't. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTikiITrust Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 No. No they don't. lol. Really? What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 The OP is an Eagles fan sock puppet. Don't get sucked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Classic thread. You know, I'm starting to come around to Who Del's P.O.V. Skins fans are laughably unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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