Aussie teen arrested for wearing a T-Shirt

[SkinnedAussie]

And, as for the kid, his arrest IN AUSTRALIA was not BS. IT was against the law, period.

The state where this occurred, Queensland, is far more conservative than any of the other states. Queenslanders are far more easily offended than other Australians, so it really wasn't a shock to non-Queenslanders that this went as far as it did.

[btfoom]

The state where this occurred, Queensland, is far more conservative than any of the other states. Queenslanders are far more easily offended than other Australians, so it really wasn't a shock to non-Queenslanders that this went as far as it did.

So, as a person living in Australia, do you think this is OK (the kid being arrested), or do you think Australia should allow this kind of thing?

Also, more importantly, which Aussie Rules Football team do you support? Where in season are Aussie rules teams? I love watching the weekly update, I just don't know how far out of date the ones I watch actually are.

Thanks,

BTFOOM

[SkinnedAussie]

No, he shouldn't have been arrested (he wouldn't have been if he was in any other state), and there are a lot more things I find offensive than words on a t-shirt.

I'm a Collingwood Magpies supporter - the team everyone else loves to hate. We wear a black-and-white vertical striped jersey (or as we call them, a guernsey).

All non-Collingwood supporters cheer for two teams - their team and the team playing Collingwood. However, we are sitting nicely near the top (fifth overall out of 16 teams) after 15 of 22 regular season games.

Collingwood is also the most popular team in the competition when it comes to membership. We regularly top 40,000, and we always draw the largest crowd figures, no matter who we play. Even though every other teams hates everything about Collingwood, they are the first to put their hand up for a home game against us (as home teams get the gate receipts). A home game against Collingwood always ensures a good day financially.

[btfoom]

No, he shouldn't have been arrested (he wouldn't have been if he was in any other state), and there are a lot more things I find offensive than words on a t-shirt.

I'm a Collingwood Magpies supporter - the team everyone else loves to hate. We wear a black-and-white vertical striped jersey (or as we call them, a guernsey).

All non-Collingwood supporters cheer for two teams - their team and the team playing Collingwood. However, we are sitting nicely near the top (fifth overall out of 16 teams) after 15 of 22 regular season games.

Collingwood is also the most popular team in the competition when it comes to membership. We regularly top 40,000, and we always draw the largest crowd figures, no matter who we play. Even though every other teams hates everything about Collingwood, they are the first to put their hand up for a home game against us (as home teams get the gate receipts). A home game against Collingwood always ensures a good day financially.

Thanks for a local perspective.

One more question about that kid - let's say he was wearing an <Insert Favorite Local Aussie Rules Player/Team> is a C#%T shirt, would he have made it home from the grounds that night????

Also, I am now a Collingwood supporter for the rest of the year, due to you. Are there any forums you frequent/recommend for a newbie to your team?

Thanks, and may all your marks be well won.

[SkinnedAussie]

Thanks for a local perspective.

One more question about that kid - let's say he was wearing an <Insert Favorite Local Aussie Rules Player/Team> is a C#%T shirt, would he have made it home from the grounds that night????

Depends. If the player in question was playing that game, or is a member of a team that was playing, the t-shirt wearer may not even make it to his seat as supporters of that team would deal with him, but the officials would have intervened by then anyway. Not that the t-shirt would have been offensive, moreso to prevent crowd reaction.

Also, I am now a Collingwood supporter for the rest of the year, due to you. Are there any forums you frequent/recommend for a newbie to your team?

I have been a long time member of an unofficial message board by the name of

Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

If you want to check it out, go ahead, but there is now an invitation only registration process in place. If you are interested in signing up, PM with your email address, and I'll send you the invite, with the relevant code.

We actually have an Eagles fan who regularly posts during the NFL season (due to Sav Rocca being a former Collingwood player), so another 'Skins fan will really rattle his cage.

[The Fourth King]

I'm glad they arrested him. Just kind of surprised that nobody gave him a fair shot to the balls before hand.

[SkinnedAussie]

I'm glad they arrested him. Just kind of surprised that nobody gave him a fair shot to the balls before hand.

Because Aussie cops show respect to the people, and their offspring, who pay their wages.

[Zguy28]

What people think and do in their personal time is of no consequence to me, but when these same people enter into my space and force their religious opinions upon me is when I have a problem with it.

I couldn't give a rat's what the next person believes in, and I respect them for believing in something, but I'd also expect that same person to respect my rights to believe in what I want. It just doesn't include religion, so get over it.

This thread has gone to hell in a hand basket. All the believers are trying to spout how they interpret 'that book of fiction', and how each view differs from the next. That is a perfect example of what someone believes in. They believe their point of view is the way, and they won't be swayed.

For me to think any differently, show me some physical proof, not words that are written on a piece of paper. Even if someone can prove to me that they have actually met 'The Man', I may change my opinion, but until then, to each their own.

I'd just like to finish up with:

Hey, quit spouting off your opinion on religion.

[techboy]

I'd just like to finish up with:

This picture offends me. :mad:

Jesus is a good American. He would never play soccer.

[Zguy28]

Yeah, I hear you. I think mostly he's a kid starved for attention. Lots of us have been there, maybe not to his degree. At least he didn't shoot anyone to get his angst out.

Serious question that may come off as flippant here.. Would God understand something like that? A 'boys will be boys' type thing that acknowledges the difference between true sin from the heart or just a stupid thing done when you're a kid?

~Bang

You know Bang, I really don't know for certain. We all do stupid things as a kid, but even teens know right from wrong. If God is indeed a God who values justice, like he is described in the bible, then I would have to say he would take it seriously.

We (as in Western Culture) may not, but that's just our society. For instance, if you went back in time to feudal Japan and said something similarly insulting about Buddha to a Zen-Buddhist Samurai, I imagine it might have very different and permanent consequences.

But one thing that I must add, from a theological perspective, once a person recieves Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, repents of sin, and humbly asks for forgiveness, they are given a clean slate. It doesn't matter if they have broken all Ten commandments, as far as eternal punishment goes, they are saved from it.

[Corcaigh]

This picture offends me. :mad:

Jesus is a good American. He would never play soccer.

Dude has a Mexican name. He definitely plays soccer.

[techboy]

Dude has a Mexican name. He definitely plays soccer.

Shows what you know...

As you should be aware, Jesus is also a Republican, and as a good Republican, he has abandoned any culture, practice, or belief of any nation other than the U.S., because they are all clearly inferior in every way to that of the 'Merican.

[BigRedskinDaddy]

I had a T-Shirt which I got when I purchased a copy of Free BSD. A linux compeditor who's mascot is a little animated devil character. I had a dude down in Arkansaw come up to me in a store and ask if I was a devil worshiper.. Looked me right in the eye too. He was serious.

I used to have a shirt that said "Jesus is a homo". It was a play on the whole "Jesus is a homeboy" thing. I got some dirty looks' date=' some laughs but I was never approached by a police officer. I agree, it's childish, and I no longer own the shirt, but arrested? That's insane. The only damage it does is shatter the fragile psyches of scared people.[/quote']

Some friends of mine in SoCal used to have a fledgling clothing line (back in the day, everybody in HB had one lol) called Porno Hardcore. One of their shirts, my favorite actually, was black w/the logo on the front left pec and 4" block white letters on the back that stated "I F**K On The First Date."

It's not religious, certainly wouldn't have been as controversial, but the flack I used to get from some people was amazing. They invariably missed the point of the shirt, which was extremely tongue-in-cheek. While I don't condone something like the shirt the lad was wearing, I have to say he's bold as - er, hell.

For his sake he'd better hope he doesn't end up there...

[BigMike619]

"It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission" is not found in the Bible.

Seriously, this comment bothers me for two reasons.

First, you're saying that you'd sin, which is, of course, between you and God, but still a sin, and it seems like it's an intentional sin.

Secondly, though, you are doing this in public. By choosing to identify yourself vociferously as a Christian, you are representing Christ on these boards, and I think that this is a poor witness to others. Just take a look at the response of the non-Christians here.

If you choose to sin, that's your business, but may I gently suggest that you shut up about it?

And for you to come across as someone to call me a poor witness is judging and thou shall not judge, correct?

seriously, your opinion on what I do with my life doesnt matter. I have a good relationship with The Lord and I dont feel that I need to defend it to you whatsoever. My representing of Christ on a board full of agnostic and athiests is the least of my concerns. They dont believe anyways and it is not my calling from God to convince or act a certain way for them.

I am sure you dont like what I am saying and I am sure you will retort. But before you do so remember that I am pretty set in my ways and I am not looking to you for spiritual guidance.

I can see where you are coming from though, its just that I take it upon myself to stand up to those who disrespect God to me.

[techboy]

And for you to come across as someone to call me a poor witness is judging and thou shall not judge, correct?

Actually, no, that's not correct (in terms of "thou shalt not judge"), but I've said (written?) my piece, so I'll let it be at that.

[BigMike619]

Actually, no, that's not correct (in terms of "thou shalt not judge"), but I've said (written?) my piece, so I'll let it be at that.

thank you.

and I did hear you for what its worth.

[MrSilverMaC]

Did you even bother to read the Wiki article you quoted. It said that the Nazi's persuceted the Catholics and other Christians. It was NOT a Christian party at all, though they embraced some of the Christian beliefs.

And, to keep it to one post, read all of the items listed in JMS posting. They were almost all (just a few exceptions), deaths attributed to wars for land/empires. Again, leaders can use any excuse for their awful actions. Does not mean that was the reason.

And, as for the kid, his arrest IN AUSTRALIA was not BS. IT was against the law, period.

.........

In the interest of not insulting you due to my ebbing patience to your seemingly purposeful lack of understanding of anything I have said, this will be my last response to you on this matter.

1) Yes, I most certainly did read what I posted to you.

2) Regardless of what a leaders ultimate motive is for doing something, using god or christ as a reason to kill someone still = killing someone in christ's name. Just because a leader doesn't believe in his excuse to kill someone, doesn't mean the masses he/or she gets to do his bidding don't.

3) Catholics killing protestants, and protestants killing Catholics still = killing in the name of christ, so anyone who died in the reformation, or any catholic killed by protestants for being catholic and vice versa (and this has happened quite often) still = killing in christ's name.

4) The link I posted said that the nazi's used their particular "christian" beliefs as justification to kill catholics and any other religion that did not believe in their specific brand of christianity, and yes, this too = killing in christ's name. Which means the majority of people they killed were in christ's name. (yes I am saying majority)

5) Arresting the kid was and is BS. Just because something is a law, doesn't make it right. Or do you think everything that is legal, in say.... Saudi Arabia is just? Stoning a woman for being raped is ok cause it's the law?

Now, I'm sure I haven't covered every point, but before you post another one of your special replies, stop, read everything I've said, stop again, and think about what I am saying. And if you still disagree with me, that's fine, but we will have to agree to strongly disagree.

[skindogger47]

That's just, like, his opinion, man. Why would someone give a **** what some punk kid wears on his t-shirt when you coul djust ignore him and he would go away?