USS Redskins Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I see it this way: If I guy kills someone knowing that he will get the death penalty b/c he commits the crime, then they are too stupid to live. As for child rapists - they should be executed b/c they are sick F's - there is no "curing" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Might as well have titled this thred "Death Penalty debate" Hmm all four liberals shot it down. The same ones who believe that terorists should be read miranda rights by soldiers on the battle field. Yet liberals like you always think that the people are too stupid to make proper decisions and judges should not stick to interpreting law but write it when the law doesn't fit your agenda. Make that "Death Penalty, fictional Liberals, and more fictional Liberals debate". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthor99 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why would you murder a child rapist? A child rapist in prison is living in pure hell. Exactly!!!! The sad thing is aren't they nowadays keeping these sicko's away from the general population because of fear that they will be killed? So they just put all of the pervs together. This story by the way is horrible. What the hell is wrong with people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Because I've heard it on numerous occassions. Dahmer was a sick basterd, but he killed adults, not children and remember, Dahmer was in the early 90's. No he killed children too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headexplode Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Yet liberals like you always think that the people are too stupid to make proper decisions and judges should not stick to interpreting law but write it when the law doesn't fit your agenda. I do think people are too stupid to make proper decisions, but it has nothing to do with my political persuasion. Be honest, though, you are like millions of other Americans who only support the Judicial branch when it favors your agenda. Otherwise, it's full of activist judges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I disagree with this one. IMO, a punishment's either cruel and unusual, or it isn't. There's no "it's OK for this crime, but not this other one" clause in the Constitution. I support the death penalty in some cases, simply because I believe that there are, in this world, crimes for which death is Justice. And, IMO, some cases of child rape fit into that category. OTOH, it does sound like the court was somewhat constrained by precedent. And I could concede the theoretical possibility that, if this decision had gone the other way, where the punishment would "creep" into lesser and lesser crimes. The tendency among societies and prosecutors is to constantly push for more and more punishment. For example, I observe that the reason Capital Punishment was banned decades ago was because the court ruled that it was being applied too capriciously, with no clear demarcation between what was and wasn't bad enough to deserve death. (IIR, the specific item the court cited was that, in Virginia, juries were allowed to impose the death penalty for rape. But that in the history of Virginia, every single person sentenced to death for rape was a black man convicted of raping a white woman.) If you can't trust a jury to fairly apply the death penalty, and you have to come up with some hard, fast, line to delineate what is and isn't a capital case of child rape, then "did the child die?" is a pretty clear line. I'll also admit that the reasoning of "if raping a child will get you killed, then there's no reason for the rapist to leave the child alive" has some validity. OTOH, I don't think it's up to the Supreme Court to consider that issue. Legislatures should make that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I believe death warrants life if prison: Then if you screw up there: Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 You should get the death penalty for molesting a kid if that kid is under a certain age. :2cents: Messin with a kid early on will screw him up in ways you can't imagine that will affect the rest of their life. Also, sexual deviant criminals are pretty much incurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 You should get the death penalty for molesting a kid if that kid is under a certain age. :2cents:Messin with a kid early on will screw him up in ways you can't imagine that will affect the rest of their life. Also, sexual deviant criminals are pretty much incurable. Let 'em rot in jail for life. And what age? How do you decide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Larry, on point #5 I agree completely. This to me was the court playing legislator. I'm sad because I agree with it, but hate to see the courts doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Let 'em rot in jail for life. And what age? How do you decide? Life maybe. I would say age 10 and under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hmm all four liberals shot it down. The same ones who believe that terorists should be read miranda rights by soldiers on the battle field. Amazing lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 The Supreme court dropped the ball on this one and should be ashamed of themselves. The rape of a child should carry the death penalty, no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Skins72 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why would you murder a child rapist? Do you have an alternative solution that protects society without emburdening tax payers by asking them to support the child rapists life behind bars? Also, as much as I love a good joke, please skip using "therapy" as a response...it wouldn't take very long to google up a horde of repeat child sex offenders that proved resistant to "therapy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Am I the only one that noticed that the guy at issue in this case might be innocent? Rape happens, kid says 2 guys did it, they throw dad in jail anyway, dad sits in jail for TWENTY MONTHS before kid says that dad did it, and DNA evidence taken at the time doesn't support the theory that he was the rapist. Seems like the ideal set of circumstances to overturn the death penalty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Skins72 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Am I the only one that noticed that the guy at issue in this case might be innocent? Rape happens, kid says 2 guys did it, they throw dad in jail anyway, dad sits in jail for TWENTY MONTHS before kid says that dad did it, and DNA evidence taken at the time doesn't support the theory that he was the rapist.Seems like the ideal set of circumstances to overturn the death penalty... I did not look up the case details before I responded; I merely offered my opinion on what should be done to convicted child rapists. That being said, I have now gone back to look it up, and I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Amazing lack of knowledge. That's not lack of knowledge. He knows he's lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why would you murder a child rapist? A child rapist in prison is living in pure hell. No they aren't....most of these animals are out of reach from the general population. I want either the death penalty for them or a chance that they will have a shank shoved in their ear. They aren't in a living hell mentally because the majority of the animals lack compassion and reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Do you have an alternative solution that protects society without emburdening tax payers by asking them to support the child rapists life behind bars?Also, as much as I love a good joke, please skip using "therapy" as a response...it wouldn't take very long to google up a horde of repeat child sex offenders that proved resistant to "therapy." And yet you're (intentionally?) ignorant of the fact that executing people actually costs more money than life imprisonment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Am I the only one that noticed that the guy at issue in this case might be innocent? Rape happens, kid says 2 guys did it, they throw dad in jail anyway, dad sits in jail for TWENTY MONTHS before kid says that dad did it, and DNA evidence taken at the time doesn't support the theory that he was the rapist.Seems like the ideal set of circumstances to overturn the death penalty... Sounds like an excellent reason why Dad may not be guilty. Not a reason why guilty rapists can't be executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Skins72 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 And yet you're (intentionally?) ignorant of the fact that executing people actually costs more money than life imprisonment. I am aware of that, and while we are on the subject, I also support using a hangman's noose over more expensive methods of garbage removal. <edit> I know there are other reasons for the high cost (beyond the method) but I think we can all agree that killing a man need not be expensive; whether it should be expensive, or whether we should be killing the man in question is a debate for a different thread imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'm starting to wonder if Kennedy secretly wants to get McCain elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Sounds like an excellent reason why Dad may not be guilty. Not a reason why guilty rapists can't be executed. I was implying that this was a set of circumstances that would provide the Court with the necessary political ass-covering to make this sort of decision. If they make this decision against a bona fide child rapist, PR nightmare, citizen outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Yet liberals like you always think that the people are too stupid to make proper decisions and judges should not stick to interpreting law but write it when the law doesn't fit your agenda. Total posts by Navy Dave 32,242 Total posts by Navy Dave that blame liberals for something 32,178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Guess you guys didn't read the dissent... from Alito... the description of the crime was horrible... I think sometimes child rape is more morally reprehensible than 1st degree murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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