doncherry Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I just posted the list, and the link, there is a lot of stuff to read. I thought it would be nice to debate something that goes on between the lines, as opposed to a lot of the off-field stuff so clearly associated with the offseason. Please feel free to comment... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3309223&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1 Top 10 WRs of All Time Raymond Berry, Boyd Dowler, Mike Holmgren, Ken Houston, Warren Moon, Keyshawn Johnson and Ted Thompson helped ESPN.com evaluate the best wide receivers in NFL history. ESPN.com weighed their contributions, balancing rankings with anecdotal evidence, to create the following list. (Click here for ZOOM Gallery.) 1. JERRY RICE Career: Played for 49ers, Raiders and Seahawks from 1985-2004. Holds NFL records for receptions (1,549), receiving yards (22,895), TD receptions (197), TDs (207). Quick quote: "Jerry had a tremendous combination of speed, size, toughness, smarts." -- Holmgren, Rice's offensive coordinator in San Francisco 2. RANDY MOSS Career: Set NFL record with 23 TD catches last season with Patriots. Quick quote: "Randy Moss catches the ball so well almost without looking at it sometimes. He is scary physically." -- Boyd Dowler, retired scout and former NFL receiver. 3. DON HUTSON Career: Played for Packers from 1935-45. Held 18 NFL records when he retired. Elected to Hall of Fame in 1963. Quick quote: "Lean and swift, and boy, he could catch the heck out of it." -- Hall of Famer Berry, who studied films of Hutson in detail. 4. MICHAEL IRVIN Career: Played for Cowboys from 1988-99. Had 750 career receptions for 11,904 yards. Elected to Hall of Fame in 2007. Quick quote: "People might not like some of the other things, but when he was on those stripes, he was as competitive as there is." -- Hall of Fame QB Moon 5. PAUL WARFIELD Career: Played for Browns, Dolphins from 1964-77. Averaged 20.1 yards per catch. Elected to Hall of Fame in 1983. Quick quote: "Warfield was a lot like Charlie Joiner. Every step meant something to those guys. Warfield got into his route and it was like somebody falling off the face of the earth. That's how quick he could be into it." -- Hall of Fame safety Houston 6. CHARLEY TAYLOR Career: Played for Redskins 1964-77. All-time leading receiver with 649 catches for 9,110 yards when he retired. Elected to Hall of Fame in 1984. Quick quote: "Those types of athletes who played more than one position --- Charley Taylor -- are worth the price of admission just to see them line up. That is an athlete right there, a subject in itself." -- Berry 7. STEVE LARGENT Career: Played for Seahawks from 1976-89. Had 819 catches, 13,089 yards, 100 TDs. Elected to Hall of Fame in 1995. Quick quote: "He was as crafty as anybody I could recall. He wasn't a big guy, but he knew exactly how to lean on people and his hands were unbelievable." -- Packers GM Ted Thompson 8. CRIS CARTER Career: Played for Eagles, Vikings, Dolphins from 1987-2002. Had 13,899 yards receiving, 130 TD receptions. Quick quote: "I've never been around a guy as competitive as he is. He is so confident. He was a hard worker, which I enjoyed because whatever I got in practice, I knew that's I was going to get in the game." -- Moon 9. TERRELL OWENS Career: Has 129 TD receptions in career with 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys. Quick quote: "My biggest knock on him is he drops too many balls, but he makes a lot of big plays and he's as good as there is after the catch and he makes difficult catches." -- Moon 10. MARVIN HARRISON Career: Has spent entire 12-yard career with Colts. Set NFL record with 143 receptions in 2002. Quick quote: "Of all the things that impresses me, it's how he goes about his job, how he goes about his business. He's not a fanfare guy. He's just a football player." -- Holmgren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Westbrook Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 There is no way Michael Irvin is the 4th best WR of all-time, also Randy Moss's the most talented WR in NFL history, but he's taken too many plays off in his career to justify being #2 on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 im going to ask this and Im sure I wont be alone in thinking it "Where is Art Monk?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Irvin isn't even top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 If you read the article associated with this list, you'll see it is total crap and completely subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 wow even after Moss's miserable years in Oakland, he's still #2 that's very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Tim Brown was pretty good for a pretty long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 im going to ask this and Im sure I wont be alone in thinking it "Where is Art Monk?" The hell with Monk.......... Where's Brandon Lloyd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Of the positional debates, this one is the toughest because it is one of the most dependent positions in the game. I think if Randy Moss had spent his entire career with the Raiders, he may not even be considered top 10. If someone like Irving Fryar had spent his entire career with quality programs, he'd be a top 10 of all time. Of course I think the two biggest benefactors are Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. Both spent a majority of their careers with top of the line franchises and a HOF QB throwing to them. I can be biased and cry foul for Art Monk. But I also cry foul for Lynn Swann and Lance Alworth. I see a lot of current players though cracking the list. Steve Smith should be among them also when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Apparently #'s 9 and 10 need no introduction. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slogriff Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Michael Irvin is not #4 all-time WR. Maybe #4 most competitive WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Michael Irvin is not #4 all-time WR. Maybe #4 most competitive WR. thats an honest statement and I can appreciate that. I am really shocked to see none of the 70s Steelers listed. I dont believe they were all that but usually the media does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Hmm, just put Jerry Rice 1-10 then everyone can be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The article makes no mention of Tim Brown. None at all. Now he was like Marvin Harrison and Art Monk, not flashy and didnt say much. But to say he isnt top 10 is a joke. Here are his numbers: 2nd all time in Yards 3rd all time in catches 6th all time in receiving TDS 5th all time all purpose yards (any position) 9 straight 1000 yard seasons 9 probowls 7 All Pro Selections http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowTi00.htm Pretty much top 10 if not top 5 in every catagory out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The article makes no mention of Tim Brown. None at all. Now he was like Marvin Harrison and Art Monk, not flashy and didnt say much. But to say he isnt top 10 is a joke. Here are his numbers:2nd all time in Yards 3rd all time in catches 6th all time in receiving TDS 5th all time all purpose yards (any position) 9 straight 1000 yard seasons 9 probowls 7 All Pro Selections http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowTi00.htm Pretty much top 10 if not top 5 in every catagory out there i agree here. timmy brown also was a great blocking WR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Whoever says Lynn Swann should be on there has to be joking. The most he ever had was 880 recieving yards in a season. Only 336 career receptions for 5462 yards. So what if he did well in superbowls, he isn't top ten all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishisthegreatstuff Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Irvin isn't even better than Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 im going to ask this and Im sure I wont be alone in thinking it "Where is Art Monk?" The second I saw the title and that it was ESPN I knew Monk wouldn't be on there. Remember, with them it's all about flash, not substance. That's why crack head, poor role model Irvin only had to wait a couple years to get in the Hall, and better numbers, excellent role model Monk had to wait about twice as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANSINCE66 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The hell with Monk..........Where's Brandon Lloyd? That's funny. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeb Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I find this hard to believe Keyshawn Johnson helped make this list and Keyshawn Johnson isn't number 1 on said list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoasthog Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Tim Brown was pretty good for a pretty long time. I was thinking the same thing! Tim Brown was a great reciever who like Art Monk just didn't have enough flash to get put on some dumb arse ESPN list. F ESPN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammsteinSkins Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Irvin How Can You Put Him In The Top 15????????????? Wheres Art Monk And T.0 Shouldnt Be In The Top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvarlo12000 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The hell with Monk..........Where's Brandon Lloyd? This is supposed to be a top ten list, not bottom ten list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDefectors Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Irvin How Can You Put Him In The Top 15????????????? Wheres Art Monk And T.0 Shouldnt Be In The Top 10. While I can't argue against having Monk on the list (he deserves top 10, IMO), Irvin is deserving of being included on this list as well. I believe Irvin was one of the strongest and physical receivers to ever play the game. During the Cowboys superbowl years in the 90s, there wasn't a CB in the league that could completely stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Michael Irvin, T.O., Art Monk and Tim Brown deserve to be on there. To say T.O. or Irvin don't is just pure homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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