Gregpeck99 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I assure you the Skins will draft one or more WRs from among Bowman, Hardy, Nelson, Hubbard, Manningham, Hawkins, Franklin, Johnson, Smith, Bryant, Douglas, West, or Burton. They will miss out on Kelly, Jackson (DeSean), and Doucet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I assure you the Skins will draft one or more WRs from among Bowman, Hardy, Nelson, Hubbard, Manningham, Hawkins, Franklin, Johnson, Smith, Bryant, Douglas, West, or Burton. They will miss out on Kelly, Jackson (DeSean), and Doucet. what about sweed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Look at Braylon EWdwards last year was his 3rd season and he wasa outstanding. He is now a cornerstone for the Brown's O . It takes time. Furthermore I drafted him in fantasy and he payed big dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Some of you missed the point of this thread... If we choose a WR we better be willing to wait. Look at some the failures we have had trying to draft a wideout. Desmond Howard 1st round Michael Westbrooke 1st round Taylor Jacobs 2nd round Cliff Russell 3rd round Rod Gardner 1st round Tydus Winans 3rd round in the last 17 years we have drafted one impact WR lets see which of you know whom it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreitmaster Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Alex Gonzalas had a good rookie year with the colts. I think you are referring to Anthony Gonzalez. He had 37 catches for 576 yards. Playing opposite Reggie Wayne in the Colts offense will do that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Calvin Johnson will be the real deal in a season or two-he had that back injury that slowed him. Reminds me of the way people hated/slept on B.Edwards b/c he wasn't a superstar right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Calvin Johnson will be the real deal in a season or two-he had that back injury that slowed him.Reminds me of the way people hated/slept on B.Edwards b/c he wasn't a superstar right away. I agree on Calvin my point is the Odds are not good to get that kinda of guy. We don't have the 2nd pick in the draft Do we have the patience? With he win now mentality of not only the team but the fan base as well these are questions we need to ask. The quiz remains whom is the only impact WR the skins have drafted in the last 17 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 So you want to draft a wide receiver?Tell that to Green Bay who has not one but two oustanding young receivers. They alone were the reason for Green Bays record last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmw2301 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Great post billy, couldnt have said it better, we need a WR this year not 4 yrs from now. We need to make a move in FA or a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 what about sweed? Yeah I was wondering what happened to Sweed in his list. To be honest, Sweed is the guy I want if we go WR. I find it odd that he has one injury that happens to occur at a very bad time (beginning of his senior year) and he is suddenly "injury prone" and not that good. He is that good and he is not injury prone. Before his wrist injury he played in about 36 consecutive games. He is very quick for a guy his size. He is great at blocking out defenders with his body, adjusting his body in the air, and has great hands. He is also very football smart after having been a starter for quite some time. Good at finding soft spots in zones, recognizing different coverages, etc. If you've watched him play you can tell all of this. But the one of the most important things is he doesn't have character issues and is, by all accounts, and incredibly hard worker who will do whatever he can to be the best. He was pretty much told that doing the Senior Bowl thing could hurt his draft status if his wrist didn't have enough range of motion and he didn't care about that. He was more interested in getting back out and playing and showing that he was a hard worker and a competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 So you want to draft a wide receiver?You better be ready to wait a while for the payoff. You are correct in assessing that wideouts take time to develop. But it is not the only position like this. D-linemen are even harder and slower to develop than wideouts. We all know the dilemma GMs face concerning QBs, since we all know that position usually takes years to master as well. I say take the best player available no matter what position. Who cares if it takes time for them to develop. Then friggin' let them develop. We actually have multiple draft picks for once, so that gives us the option to be wayyy more flexible with who we pick up. Fans on this board need to stop thinking we are mere pieces away from a Super Bowl run, as long as we plug a few holes; instead lets build a team that can make playoff runs year after year. This is a team with a flimsy FO, not much depth, and plenty of coaching/scheme changes. Chances are we will not be a good team right away. Lets be patient. Even if it means waiting awhile for a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilbone13 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Once in awhile, a gem receiver comes along that you just can't pass on. I personally don't see the gem in this years' draft. There's no Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss starring us in the face... ...if we have to have another WR, then we should address it through FA. As far as the draft goes, we need D-line help!! We also need O-line help which should be addressed in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think you're (the OP) is overanalyzing this issue. We don't need a rookie WR to come in here and do a 1500 yard season. We need somebody to come in here and take some pressure off of Moss. Look at The Bears and the Packers the past few years. They've had rookie WRs come in and not have great years, but catch passes when needed. We have Moss as our #1, and he's as good as Steve Smith. But we need somebody for those intermediate routes and for the end zone slant route. I really believe that Campbell would have beat Dallas that first time if he had a big WR. Even if it does take the guy 2 or 3 years to become a pro-bowl type player, its just one step towards getting our team younger and ready to compete for the next decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGB Spender Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 2006 NFL WR”s Drafted Santonio Holmes, Chad Jackson, Sinorice Moss, Greg Jennings and Devin Hester These five averaged in their rookie year 22 receptions / 161 yards / 1.6 TD Their second season looked like this 28 receptions / 463 yards / 4.4 Td Devin Hester was drafted as a cornerback. And QB's take ALOT longer than WR's to grow in the NFL. QB is the most complex position of any sport in the world. I don't think that we need a WR out of this draft though. BTW Jerry Rice - 16th overall pick (last pick in) '85 (#1 in the short lived USFL) Larry Fitzgerald - 3rd Overall in 2004 Tim Brown 6th overall in '88 Randy Moss 21st Overall in '98 Santana Moss 16th overall in '01 just to name a few........... i can go on all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flock53 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I like Bowe, Rice came on, Calvin got hurt after making an amazing catch and misseda few games. Ginn is equivilent to our Desmond Howard mistake. Hester was a CB before converting to try and spark that offense, so he truly is a project. ITS all a crap shoot, there is no "true" science. Not only are you talking talent, but now include offensive scheme and why some excell in some but not others. Flip a coin. Im a watch the tape 1st guy myself and then take the measurables/intangibles next. Frankly I like Will Franklin from Missouri myself, He ran a FAST 40 and is tall, but did he prosper from the system there, which is a spread them out type? Again watch tape and see if he drops catchable balls, gets seperation, body control, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Well, I hope you don't expect much out of a First Year DE then either. Because the 2007 Class produced DEs who averaged a whopping 2.33 sacks. Or perhaps he wants a DT. Rookies in '07 averaged 23 tackles and a jaw-dropping 2.5 sacks a piece. Once in awhile, a gem receiver comes along that you just can't pass on. I personally don't see the gem in this years' draft. There's no Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss starring us in the face......if we have to have another WR, then we should address it through FA. As far as the draft goes, we need D-line help!! We also need O-line help which should be addressed in the later rounds. So WR can easily be addressed in FA, but "we need D-line help!!," so we have to draft for that position. Its not like who could address both through the Draft, or either through FA, not just one. This isn't 2006. We have more than one pick in the first 5 rounds. As a matter of fact, we have 4. Who cares what order we get them in, so long as the Scouting Department feels that each player could satisfy that need? But no, lets just sign a WR, then draft D-line because "it needs help!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 What's wrong with drafting a guy and developing him over time? I think you are missing the point of the draft. If you continue to use the draft as it's intended, then it's ok to wait a few years for players to develop, WR included. Sure, some teams can completely go against all the odds like the Gmen did in 2007 and get a significant contribution from a handful of rookies. That's very rare, though, and isn't realistic to expect every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpickering Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 :40oz: Keep drinking son Do you even know the names of the WRs available from Virginia Tech? In the recent past, a number of WR's that came out of Virginia Tech played valuable roles for their respective teams (Antonio Freeman, Andre Davis, Earnest Wilford) The crop coming out this year was generally considered the most talented ever at VT. Josh Morgan is a beast and a burner. He ran a 4.39 40 and is fifth all-time at Tech in receiving yards, third in catches and fourth in TD catches. Justin Harper is 6-4 with 4.33 speed. He got off to a slow start at Virginia Tech but had his best year this past season. Eddie Royal will most likely end up as a return specialist but a damn good one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 What's wrong with drafting a guy and developing him over time?I think you are missing the point of the draft. If you continue to use the draft as it's intended, then it's ok to wait a few years for players to develop, WR included. Sure, some teams can completely go against all the odds like the Gmen did in 2007 and get a significant contribution from a handful of rookies. That's very rare, though, and isn't realistic to expect every year. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Will it be next season before the 08 draft of the WR's bears any fruit? I hope not ..but we sure have no clue so far what they can do this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Redskins rookie WR Kelly could be headed for IR You could say that the two receivers the Redskins took in the second round have been unmitigated disasters so far, but I'm probably being generous. Head coach Jim Zorn just told reporters in Ashburn, Va., that former Okahoma star Malcolm Kelly (knee) might be headed for injured reserve. The other options are the PUP (physically unable to perform) list or being active for Thursday's game against the Giants. So many options, so little time. Kelly and Devin Thomas both reported to camp out of shape, and neither player is ready to make an immediate impact. I'm sure owner Daniel Snyder and VP of football operations Vinny Cerrato are seething over the fact that the "weapons" they coveted remain under lock and key. Zorn also broke the news that Stephon Heyer is on the verge of winning the job at right tackle over veteran Jon Jansen -- and that it has nothing to do with Jansen's foot injury. Zorn was apparently pleased that Heyer fought through an injury of his own and played well against Jacksonville on Thursday. Safety LaRon Landry will return to full practices this week and Zorn hopes he'll be ready for the Giants. He also said he might rest defensive end Jason Taylor so that he'll be ready to go in Week 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The Redskins simply had too many holes on the team in terms of depth behind aging starters to make the entire draft about the wide receiver and TE positions on Day 1. This is one time I agree with JLC that the team could have signed a veteran WR with experience in the WCO and then drafted ONE of the bigger receivers in Round 2 to develop in 2008 and 2009, thereby allowing the team to address DE, strongside LB, OL or CB with the other #2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 This is one time I agree with JLC that the team could have signed a veteran WR with experience in the WCO They did...his name is Billy McMullen and he has been the best receiver on the field for us this season. Maybe our depth isn't as bad at those other positions as some might think. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 So we had 3 second round picks and all we are going to show for it is Chris Cooley will have a pass catching backup.:doh: Great draft Vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted August 30, 2008 Author Share Posted August 30, 2008 I hope these guys workout but history does not favor it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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