Special K Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Well, it'll be interesting to see how our 2008 rookie class will be utilized in the 2009 offensive scheme. People are insane if they expected all of them to produce big numbers for our team immediately. That being said, I would have liked to have seen them used more in our plays, particularly toward the end of the season. Kelly was clearly a gamble; I really hope his knee problems can be overcome next year, but we'll see. Who knows though. Regardless, I think we are going to see a lot more from our rookie class this next season, I have high hopes for these boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valenski Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 "These seven wide receivers averaged poultry" Im just curious what is average poultry? mediocore chicken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Great bump. Sure there were other receivers that were successful this year, but that doesn't mean that ours will be busts. I think that WR is one of the harder positions to adjust to the pro game. In college you're just bigger and faster than everyone and that gets you open. You get to the pros, run routes the same way, and there's a defender on your hip still. It takes most receivers lots of game reps to learn how to run their routes, set up their routes, and do the small things that help you get open in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The only reason to draft a WR this year is that after Thrash retires there is an accident and one of our receivers has a season ending injury and Maryland's Receiver drops to us in the 3rd round and we addressed the D line in free agency and after trading down in the first round we picked up some big uglies for the O line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 "These seven wide receivers averaged poultry"Im just curious what is average poultry? mediocore chicken? Come on man, give the guy a break you know he meant paltry lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmandm Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Come on man, give the guy a break you know he meant paltry lol Im usually with you. I hate people who go after a typo here and there--I think that is dorky. However...Paltry and poultry?? That is more than nitpicking. He deserves some busting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 This thread is the reason I never understood the criticism of our rookie WRs. This thread was posted in February. We all knew and commented on the fact that any reciever we drafted may take time to develop. Yet as we went through the season people still whined and moaned at their lack of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The issue I have with the OP is running an average. For instance, let's say you have a bust on your hands. He's going to bring down everyone's numbers. Are injuries factored in? Also, Roddy White played with Vick and garbage at QB. I think this year he has really good numbers because Ryan is there at QB. While you would expect improvement, there's no doubt we should have had better production from our rookie wideouts based simply on the fact that almost all the draftees have superior numbers to Thomas, Kelly (and if you want throw in Davis.) I don't necessarily blame those wideouts completely, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21DIEHARDSKINSFAN21 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 personally, if WE knew the the team who drafted bj raji needed a #1 wr and michael crabtree was available, i'd pick him up and thn trade it to the other team for raji and another pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 It's the QB, stupid. The QB makes the WR, not the other way around. Always been that way, always will be that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 DD is right. Guys can be wide open all day long, but if the QB fails to get the ball to them, they are garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 DD is right. Guys can be wide open all day long, but if the QB fails to get the ball to them, they are garbage. An a QB cant get it to them running for his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 It's the QB, stupid. The QB makes the WR, not the other way around. Always been that way, always will be that way. Yea Calvin johnson sucked with those 0-16 QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 An a QB cant get it to them running for his life I would disagree that JC is always "running for his life." I think there are 2 parts to why the passing game fails- JC doesn't make the quick decision to get the ball out and the WRs drop the ball. All in all the line only gave up a little over 2 sacks a game (we gave up 36 or 37 I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yea Calvin johnson sucked with those 0-16 QB's They at least got him the ball, and downfield yet! Isn't their O-line garbage too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I would disagree that JC is always "running for his life." I think there are 2 parts to why the passing game fails- JC doesn't make the quick decision to get the ball out and the WRs drop the ball. All in all the line only gave up a little over 2 sacks a game (we gave up 36 or 37 I think). Completely agree. I really think just a few games contributed to the misconception that Campbell never had time to throw. Sure the Steelers and the Cowboys were all over him in our November losses, but I think a good chunk of the pressure he felt in other games was a result of him holding on to the ball too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yea Calvin johnson sucked with those 0-16 QB's Cal Johnson is an absolute freak of nature. With Manning/Brady he would be pushing 1800 and 20 TDs on a yearly basis. A young Randy Moss would qualify in that class as well. You're talking about 2-3 WRs out of 200+ in the NFL who can make their QBs look better than they are because they have an ability to go up and get it no matter what's going on around them. You don't see WRs put up great #s without very good QB play. Think Chad Johnson/TJ Hous suddenly forgot how to run routes this year? Naming 1 or 2 exceptions doesn't disprove the rule. Marvin Harrison or Marquis Colston go out and the Colts/Saints still pass the ball effectively and still win games. Think that's the case if Bress or Manning go down? Go ahead and cite the Pats this year if you want but I knew they'd still win because they have the best coach in the league, flexible systems, and terrific players everywhere. But they struggled against the class of the AFC (Pitt/SD/Indy) because they DIDNT have that stud under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 if julio jones were eligible Id be stoked if we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandryLaysWood Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Poster Ceviker who is on the first page of this thread has an amazing signature hahahah! That is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askounes Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Cal Johnson is an absolute freak of nature. With Manning/Brady he would be pushing 1800 and 20 TDs on a yearly basis. Dirk Diggler's speaking truth right there. Cal Johnson is an absolute beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frommd Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yea Calvin johnson sucked with those 0-16 QB'sCalvin Johnson is great, but how many games did he help the Lions win? We need more than a good wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Calvin Johnson also was on a team with a crappy O-line, had 4 different starting QB's and traded away the other WR mid-season. - Doesn't seem like he had much to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I agree that the Redskins need a WR. Not just any WR. But a productive WR. The reason the offense is so average is because of the passing game. Randel El is ineffective. Cooley can do but so much. Moss is the only "very respected" WR we have. Thomas and Kelly need to step it up. If the Redskins can either develop Kelly or Thomas, or get a WR that can scare Defenses like Moss can, then they would be a much better offense. Santana Moss can't do it alone. This is the problem we have on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp1956 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Vinny Cerrato would probably draft a WR again. He doesn't have any talents in evaluating players and it showed thru his previous draft and trade records with the 49ers and now Redskins. See what happened to the 49ers lately. It's scary that he will be involved with this year's draft again. He is Danny's boy so nothing can be done with him. Redskins fans, just pray to get lucky in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Calvin Johnson also was on a team with a crappy O-line, had 4 different starting QB's and traded away the other WR mid-season. - Doesn't seem like he had much to work with.Dan Orlovsky is a possible star in the making. People wish to blame all the team around Campbell, well Orlovsky had NOTHING around him and played hard. In half of the overall attempts compared to Campbell, in balls thrown 20 or more yards downfield, Orlovsky had more completions and more yards. He was not afraid to take a chance. He and Johnson may have some huge years ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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