Uncle Heatster 3 Round Mock:Would this Mock Draft upset Redskin Fans?

[michael_33]

Uncle Heatster Three-Round Mock -- Feb 22

(Redskins picks highlighted in Maroon)

Fri, 02/22/2008 - 14:23 — dryheat44

1. Miami - Chris Long DL/OLB Virginia -- Parcells has said that he doesn't know what kind of defense he's going to use this year, which means he's going to see what kind of personnel he can put together and then see what their suited for. Long here is the smart pick. He's a tough kid that's been around football all his life, loves the game, and knows how to act professionally. More importantly, he's versatile enough to be an immediate contributor in either the 4-3 or the 3-4.

2. St. Louis - Glenn Dorsey DL LSU -- I was tempted to go OT here, since the Rams OL was historically bad last year, but they also need help on the defensive interior, and there's a better chance that they can get a starting-caliber OT later than a starting-caliber DT. Plus Ochmed would metaphorically smack me upside the head if I didn't go defense here.

3. Atlanta - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas -- This pick is subject to a coin flip, but since the Raiders suck, let's say Atlanta wins. Plus, Al Davis can go on another conspiracy rant. I refuse to believe that Matt Ryan is the answer here. Tom Dimitroff would probably prefer Jake Long or Sedric Ellis, but Arthur Blank is no dummy, and will likely nudge Dimitroff in McFadden's direction. The Falcons have had their worst year since their inception from a PR perspective (Vick, Open mutiny in the locker room, Petrino) and played several home non-sell outs, which is ridiculous for the NFL circa 2007. They also have two running backs incapable of being a full-time guy. McFadden helps on both counts. He'll sell jerseys and tickets, and he can team up with Jerious Norwood to give Atlanta a credible run game, with Warrick Dunn nudged gracefully towards retirement.

4. Oakland - Sedric Ellis DT USC -- Having been burned by the last Big Ten lineman he drafted high (in the draft), Al Davis, getting increasingly lazy in his old age, sees a dominant defensive lineman without having to look outside his home state. Which leaves plenty of time for napping.

5. Kansas City - Jake Long OT Michigan -- I don't think Brody Croyle is going to make Chiefs fans forget Len Dawson....or even the aging Joe Montana. However, I think he'll end up being good enough to win with...if they can get their protection straight. The days of the Chiefs being synonymous with great line play is long gone, and in fact, their line is a few clicks south of terrible. Long's the guy.

6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston LB Ohio St -- Let's see...drafting Ryan would be an admission of missing on Kellen Clemens. Drafting Clady would be an admission of missing on D'Brickashaw. I don't think either of these things are true, and more importantly, Bradway and Mantits are too proud too admit it if they were. It's possible that they could trade the pick to somebody who wants Ryan, but I think that the Jets pettiness will see Gholston making the Patriots even better, and will draft him so that doesn't happen.

7. New England - We know that Matt Ryan would be an ideal quarterback for the new regime to develop. Are there any other teams out there looking for him? Possibly Carolina and Chicago. At the very least, Baltimore would be willing to flip picks with us to prevent that from happening. Chicago has an extra pick, so let's look at what would likely be the packages: From Baltimore, we could get probably the #8 pick and a fourth rounder. From Chicago, we could get probably get #14 and #44. So where would Belichick be more comfortable drafting? Between the cornerbacks, Clady, and the rush linebackers, I think Belichick will take the chance on somebody he likes there at #14 in order to pick up the second rounder. PROJECTED TRADE: New England trades the #7 pick to Chicago for the #14 and #44 picks. The Bears select Matt Ryan QB Boston College.

8. Baltimore - Ryan Clady OT Boise St -- With Jonathan Ogden leaning towards retirement, an immediate replacement is a must.

9. Cincinnati - Keith Rivers LB USC -- Cincinnati keeps drafting linebackers that fail them, in either health or keeping out of trouble. They could use a running back, since I can envision them pulling the plug on Rudi Johnson, and going into the season with Kenny Watson, Chris Perry, Kenny Irons, and Quincy Wilson is no way to get through life. But running backs can be found later and in free agency. Play-making linebackers, not so much.

10. New Orleans - Leodis McKelvin CB Troy -- More than anything else, New Orleans needs a better flood management system and money to rebuild. Next on the list is somebody who can cover. McKelvin's sticky like glue. And this could launch a run on cornerbacks.

11. Buffalo - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma -- If nothing else, Marv Levy has proven two things -- he can lose Super Bowls, and he's not afraid to "reach" for a player. Buffalo's needs are at MLB and WR, so failing a trade, do they reach for a big target like Kelly, or do they reach for a guy like Curtis Lofton/Phillip Wheeler? You can never have too many guys who can cover, but Buffalo needs some reliable targets for the quarterbacks. Lee Evans is getting lonely. Linebacker will have to wait.

12. Denver - Calais Campbell DE Miami -- Dumervil was a nice find last year, but the Broncos need more of a full-time DE. Campbell is that man.

13. Carolina - Brian Brohm QB Louisville -- One of the surest bets in the offseason is that David Carr will no longer be employed by the Panthers. Brohm would be a logical candidate to succeed Delhomme.

14. New England (from Chicago) -- Aqib Talib CB Kansas -- Essentially, the choices are Derrick Harvey, Kenny Phillips, or whatever CB BB prefers, and it will probably be determined by free agency gains or losses. I think Harvey could be dynamite, but it's very risky to use a pick this high on a guy who hasn't played standing up. I don't get the first-round status assigned to Phillips, personally, and I don't think using back-to-back first rounders on safeties is the answer. Nor is he a clear upgrade on James Sanders. Therefore, let's go best available cornerback. To my eyes, that's Talib.

15. Detroit - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida -- Detroit clearly needs major help on the defensive interior, but it's just not there right now. Next item on the list is secondary. Dre Bly was overrated here, but he was never adequately replaced.

16. Arizona - Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois -- Mendenhall seems to be a perfect guy to take over for the Edge. He'll be a monster in the Whisenhunt/Carthon/Grimm offense.

17. Minnesota - Derrick Harvey DE Florida -- The needs are fairly simple -- catching the ball, and preventing your opponent from catching the ball. Then again, it appears Kenechi Udezi is going away for a while, so Harvey makes perfect sense here.

18. Houston - Sam Baker OT USC -- Wow, Houston's drafting late this year!

19. Philadelphia - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St -- I think the Eagles underestimated how much worse their pass defense would be without Rod Hood.

20. Tampa Bay - Limas Sweed WR Texas -- When Joey Galloway (37) and Ike Hilliard (32) are your two best receivers, that's a clear cry for help.

21. Washington - Kenny Phillips S Miami-- When Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle-El are your two best receivers, that's a clear indication that your better off than Tampa Bay...but not by much. But as tempting as a WR would be, there remains a hole in the secondary once filled by a Miami big-hitting safety.

22. Dallas (from Cleveland) - Felix Jones RB Arkansas -- We all knew that Jerry Jones was infatuated with an Arkansas running back....

23. Pittsburgh - Brandon Albert G Virginia -- OL and DL depth seem to be the trouble spots. Albert should be a big upgrade over the departing Faneca, and could upgrade their tackle postitions too.

24. Tennessee - Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee -- Going over their roster, the Titans are solid at every position. QB and RB could be improved, but they're committed to Vince Young, and I don't think this is the spot for another RB for them, given two second round picks the previous two years, so it really comes down to solid rotational guys in the linebacking corps or at defensive tackle. With the big nasties up front taking on the blockers, a swift, sure-tackling MLB could really shore up the defense here. Mayo fits the bill.

25. Seattle - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon -- Some say Shaun Alexander is over the hill. Some say he's never gotten over his foot injury. Some say he misses Hutchinson. I say his biggest problem is that he's gotten soft after his big payday. He reminds me of Roger Dorn from Major League...not wanting to jeopardize his post-playing career by getting hurt. You cannot say that about Stewart. This seems a perfect fit.

26. Jacksonville - Early Doucett WR LSU -- CB depth is probably more pressing, but if the Jags are going to play with the big boys in the AFC, they're going to need to come with something stronger than Reggie Williams, Ernest Wilford, Matt Jones, and Dennis Northcutt.

27. San Diego - Mario Manningham WR Michigan -- Another target for Rivers could really open things up on this offense. He'll battle with Eric Parker for the #3 spot.

28. Dallas - Antoine Cason CB Arizona -- When Dallas wasn't outscoring folks, they weren't winning. That sounds rather obvious, doesn't it. What I mean is that Dallas couldn't stop anybody's passing game, so they put too much pressure on the offense to score every possession. Cason will help.

29. San Francisco - Kentwan Balmer DL North Carolina -- Good options on the board for offensive tackles and 3-4 ends, which the Niners need badly.

30. Green Bay - Chad Henne QB Michigan -- Here's a team with decent starters everywhere. However, nobody knows what's on 4's mind, and Aaron Rodgers might be a UFA before Favre retires. Henne could have a shot to be the next link in the Dickey-Majkowski-Favre line...which is almost as impressive as the Williams-Yastrzemski-Rice-Greenwell-Ramirez line.

31. New York Giants - Dan Connor LB Penn St -- Well, we know they don't need another pass-rushing lineman. They do need some linebacking help however. There is a rumor that this pick could be traded for DeAngelo Hall.

2nd Round

32. Miami - Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt

33. St. Louis - DeSean Jackson WR California

34. Oakland - Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma

35. Kansas City - Tracy Porter CB Indiana

36. New York Jets - Red Bryant NT Texas A&M

37. Atlanta - Andre Woodson QB Kentucky

38. Baltimore - Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma

39. San Francisco - Andre Caldwell WR Florida

40. New Orleans - Xavier Adibi LB Virginia Tech

41. Buffalo - Phillip Wheeler LB Georgia Tech

42. Denver - Ali Highsmith LB LSU

43. Carolina - Phillip Merling DE Clemson

44. New England (from Chicago) - Do we dare go CB-CB with our first two picks? If Samuel and Gay both leave and aren't adequately replaced, it's possible Charles Godfrey, Branden Flowers, or Patrick Lee is the pick here. Other potential targets could be Beau Bell or Anthony Collins. Quentin Groves has fallen down the boards, and could be a target -- especially if Colvin goes away. Groves always struck me as a malingerer, but perhaps that's the result of playing with dislocated toes. If WR gets wiped out in free agency, Andre Caldwell would look awfully good right here. In other words, I have no idea who this pick would be without the benefit of free agency. So, a quick tally...Samuel leaves, Gay re-signs. Colvin re-structures. Bruschi, Seau, and Harrison stick it out another year. Moss and Gaffney stay. Washington re-signs and Stallworth leaves. Belichick signs 1 veteran ILB and 1 veteran OLB, (Thomas and Pace), along with a vet corner that isn't quite washed up. When the smoke clears, the pick is Anthony Collins OT Kansas

45. Detroit - Pat Sims DT Auburn

46. Cincinnati - James Hardy WR Indiana

47. Minnesota - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt

48. Atlanta - Quentin Groves DE Auburn

49. Philadelphia - Carl Nicks OT Nebraska

50. Arizona - Patrick Lee CB Auburn

51. Washington - PROJECTED TRADE -- Washington trades the #51 pick and their 2009 first rounder to Cincinnati for WR Chad Johnson. The Bengals select Gosder Cherilus T Boston College

52. Tampa Bay - Josh Johnson QB San Diego

53. Pittsburgh - Marcus Harrison DL Arkansas

54. Tennessee - Jeremichael Finley TE Texas

55. Seattle - Charles Godfrey CB Iowa

56. Cleveland - Beau Bell LB UNLV

57. Miami - Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh

58. Jacksonville - DeJuan Tribble CB Boston College

59. Indianapolis - Branden Flowers CB Virginia Tech

60. Green Bay - Heath Benedict T Newberry

61. Dallas - Erin Henderson LB Maryland

62. New England - I think we're in the territory now of Best Available Player, or Player That Could Fill a Specific Need, or PTCFSN, for short. So what are specific needs? Cover linebacker. Kickoff man so we're not exposing Hobbs or Maroney. Perhaps a nickel back type. Backup QB (Joe Flacco is still on the board). Or we look to guys who's contracts will be up after 2008 (Kyle Brady, Rodney Harrison, James Sanders, Sammy Morris) The player at the intersection of all this is Quentin Demps S UTEP

63. New York Giants - Justin King CB Penn St

3rd Round

64. Miami - John Carlson TE Notre Dame

65. St. Louis - Oneil Cousins T UTEP

66. Kansas City - Devin Thomas WR Michigan St

67. New York Jets - Eric Young G Tennessee

68. Atlanta - Martin Rucker TE Missouri

69. New England - We're back....and nothing's changed as far as needs go. Rather than repeating myself, know that the names I'm looking at are Flacco, Forte, Cottam, Hawkins, Avery, Butler, Okam, Schmitt and Lowery. It's not an easy trying to guess which will still be there with our next few picks. I think it's time to swing for the fences and draft a guy with great upside -- Ezra Butler OLB Nevada

70. San Francisco - Chris Johnson RB East Carolina

71. Buffalo - Fred Davis TE USC

72. Buffalo - Latroy Guion DT Florida St

73. Minnesota - Terrell Thomas CB USC

74. Carolina - Steve Slaton RB West Virginia

75. Chicago - Dre Moore DT Maryland

76. Detroit - Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech

77. Cincinnati - Ray Rice RB Rutgers

78. New Orleans - Joe Flacco QB Delaware

79. Houston - Kevin Smith RB Central Florida

80. Philadelphia - Donnie Avery WR Houston

81. Arizona - Trevor Laws DE Notre Dame

82. Minnesota - Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma St

83. Tampa Bay - Trae Williams CB South Florida

84. Washington - DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina St

85. Tennessee - Jason Jones DE Eastern Michigan

86. Seattle - Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M

87. Cleveland - Jamal Charles RB Texas

88. Pittsburgh - Cliff Avril LB Purdue

89. Jacksonville - Lawrence Jackson DE USC

90. Chicago - Jordan Dizon LB Colorado

91. Green Bay - Dustin Keller TE Purdue

92. Dallas - Lavelle Hawkins WR California

93. Indianapolis - Bruce Davis DE UCLA

94. New England - I'm still looking at Forte, Okam, Schmitt, Cottam, and Lowery. Nobody's really necessary here, so every pick from here on out could be traded into next year. I think I'll take Brad Cottam TE Tennessee.

95. New York Giants - Jamar Adams S Michigan

Personal Note:I'm really undecided on how I would feel about this kind of draft....On 1 side you have a dangerous Chad Johnson to add to our arsenal that would cost this years 2nd rounder and 09's 1st rounder....but also adding a very good Kenny Phillips At Safety to replace Sean and in addition drafting a need a DT in DeMario Pressley in the 3rd round, who I know nothing about!

But then we sacrifice next years 1st round pick in doing so for Chad and possibly still not addressing the DE's unless we aquire through Free Agency or the later rounds...and definately not being able to get a DE in next years 1 round selection...

So my thought on this, is this draft is good if only and I mean only we somehow find a diamond in the rough from rounds 5-7 on a DE or we sign a stud in the free agent pool...and or Wilson becomes a monster at RDE...

Or our Offense is so awesome with Chad Johnson added to the mix,that it really doesn't matter too much how good our pass rush is!...And Kenny Phillips is a stud back there with Landry and is picking off everything...

Your thoughts on this?

[Aghar]

Lets see. Where should I start.

Picking up an overrated safety because people THINK he looks like ST. Also, wasting a number one draft pick on a position that doe not need to be filled when it is currently occupied by an adequete and YOUNG player already.

Trading away our 1st and 2nd rounders for an overatted, big mouthed, overpaid, older WR who is only looking for his big payday.

Grabbing a DT when that is the only spot on our DLine that is underage and above average.

Top if off with the fact that we neglect, once again, the most glaring need this team has. DEFENSIVE END!

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Yep. This would piss me off to now end.

[BillyKilmer]

We will not draft a Safety in the 1st round.

The trade seems plausible...

[NavyDave]

!st and 3rd round I can live with depending on free agent moves. Hopefully Cincy remains Cincy and keeps Chad to save us from ourselves.

[Dr. D]

well opinions are like.... well you know what I mean.

Welcome to the offseason.

[pointyfootball]

This would be one time where it would be moronic to draft BPA if Phillips is that man. You just can't spend that many first round draft picks at safety and not expect the OL/DL to suffer. Trade down with a team desparate for a safety, even if you only pick up a 6th rounder. They'd be better off.

[Harwich Hog]

Matt Ryan in Chicago - interesting....

[thecardiacrll]

Mel Kiper said on the radio last night that phillips killed himself in the combine and would be lucky to be a 2nd rounder.....Plus like everyone else on hear please finally draft a DE....(CALIAS CAMPBELL PLEASE BE AVAILABLE)

[Fan since a Fetus]

Mel Kiper said on the radio last night that phillips killed himself in the combine and would be lucky to be a 2nd rounder.....Plus like everyone else on hear please finally draft a DE....(CALIAS CAMPBELL PLEASE BE AVAILABLE)

Yeah, I heard on ESPN that he is "definitely" out of the first round. I really don't feel we need a starting safety. We need a solid veteran for depth and guidance to the youngins.

[Commander Chaaarmnder]

Who is the ding dong that came up with this draft? This has to be one of the most moronic mock draft's i've ever seen, coupled with the fact that the explanations of the picks are absolutely horrid.

[chaught76]

In short to answer your question: YES.

[DiscoBob]

Yeah, I heard on ESPN that he is "definitely" out of the first round. I really don't feel we need a starting safety. We need a solid veteran for depth and guidance to the youngins.

If he fell to our 2nd round pick (which would be a huge fall from grace considering many saw him as a potential top 20 player) then we might want to pull the trigger based on the potential value in the pick.

I always like the idea of players that fall because of the combine. Film is the biggest determiner of potential / talent, so if they guy can PLAY - most of the combine is irrelevant.

I noticed that this draft had B. Alberts available at #21 - he would be my pick...

[TheLongshot]

I noticed that this draft had B. Alberts available at #21 - he would be my pick...

Yeah, I'd have a hard time believing if Albert dropped that far that they wouldn't pick him up. Course, he looks like the only player I'd pick there if the mock fell this way.

Jason

[csizemore11]

Totally a fan of B. Alberts at the 21st pick.

[Robbnva]

Lets see. Where should I start.

Picking up an overrated safety because people THINK he looks like ST. Also, wasting a number one draft pick on a position that doe not need to be filled when it is currently occupied by an adequete and YOUNG player already.

Trading away our 1st and 2nd rounders for an overatted, big mouthed, overpaid, older WR who is only looking for his big payday.

Grabbing a DT when that is the only spot on our DLine that is underage and above average.

Top if off with the fact that we neglect, once again, the most glaring need this team has. DEFENSIVE END!

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Yep. This would piss me off to now end.

I wish people would read the board more often and be in the know before posting on here.

The Skins are working hard getting CJ and he is by no means OVERRATED.

Cerrato said a DT is priority over a DE because we have chris wilson and he does a good job as a fill in DE. Although I still think we need a full time DE who can rush the passer, Vinny is the boss not me.

As for safety I don't agree with this pick, but maybe we were all wrapped up in the winning streak to not really notice Doughty's play. Sure he stepped in some big shoes, but maybe the team coaches see that he may not be as good as we all think he is. I love Doughty and want him to start, but the coaches are going to do what they think is right and not want the fans want.

If that was the case bramlet would be our 3rd string, Lloyd would have been cut last year, and Patrick Ramsey would have been brought back to replace campbell

[HailSkinz1]

Without knowing THAT much about all the players in the draft, I would be surprised if we took Phillips at 21. I know there might be a sentimental reason for doing it, but could you imagine the pressure on Phillips? Anyway, I think I'd grab Balmer or Albert there if the draft plays out the way this guy projects.

The second round sort of shocked me. But, honestly, I don't think I'd mind it. I've already stated that I'd like to get CJ, and a second this year and first next year seems to be the right price.

No problem with the third round pick, but I don't know much about him. I'd rather take a QB there, but I see he has Flacco going earlier. Maybe Josh Johnson from USD instead.

Hail,

H

[moviedude25]

Lets see. Where should I start.

Picking up an overrated safety because people THINK he looks like ST. Also, wasting a number one draft pick on a position that doe not need to be filled when it is currently occupied by an adequete and YOUNG player already.

Trading away our 1st and 2nd rounders for an overatted, big mouthed, overpaid, older WR who is only looking for his big payday.

Grabbing a DT when that is the only spot on our DLine that is underage and above average.

Top if off with the fact that we neglect, once again, the most glaring need this team has. DEFENSIVE END!

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Yep. This would piss me off to now end.

now end

But seriously I agree. drafting a safety in round one will make me Trading away two picks for Ocho Cinco will make me :mad: and not addressing the Oline until after the 3rd round :doh:

[Roborob132]

Persoanlly, Doughty I thought filled in very well and once he got used to playing was solid. He deserves in my opinion a chance. I dont think we need a safety first. To many more pressing things.

[armada58]

Calais Campbell at #12???? This Mock lost all credibility right there.

[Roborob132]

And another thing, CHAD JOHNSON, TERREL OWENS and RANDY MOSS, arguably the 3 most prolific WRs in teh game today have a COMBINED HOW MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS...? I do believe that that number is ZERO.. ZILCH.. NONE... and as they say in TIAJUANA, EL NONE-O..

Why is that you ask? EGOs. Their stats are so inflated because yes they are talented but cry when not thrown the ball although Moss was pretty quiet this year but look at his numbers and the pats SEASON, he would have been a fool to say anything even at the end when he was getting nothing even thrown his way. however, I am sure he wanted to, I bet it TORE HIM UP not SAYING ANYTHING. I would rather suck it up with current WR staff then get any of those 3. They would ruin this team and a 1st year head coach...

[Mr. Blitz]

Are you kidding me??????? 2008 second round pick..AND 2009 first round for CJ?????? Way too much...way too much. Those are the types of trades that have us where we are today. A middle of the road team....this team needs youth in a bad way. There are better options at WR.:doh:

[Grimm]

To answer the question in the title, yes this would upset me.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Drafting a safety in the first round is just a waste of resources at this point

You really cannot draft 3 safeties in the first round in 5 years, even with the tragedy that occured with Sean

I like the pick in the 3rd round, and I would rather not see the trade for Ocho-Cinco. I think there is plenty of WR talent in this draft to find a diamond in the rough

[#21Taylor4Ever]

...CALIAS CAMPBELL PLEASE BE AVAILABLE)

A DE that benched 225-16 times and a ran a 5.04.

CALAIS CAMPBELL, PLEASE DONT BE AVAILABLE!!!!!

He's not a DE, he's a DT based on that horrid 40 time, plus he's a weakling. So if he cant beat em around the corner, some T will just manhandle him.

[Skinsinparadise]

Phillips doing poorly in the combine really kills his value considering he had a relatively lackluster season last year. Basically Phillips value from what I read is that he is supposedly a physical beast and was productive earlier in his career. So if the physical beast part didn't come out in the combine, makes sense that his value is dropping.