dent19 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Jordy ran 4.49 in 40 at Combine...seems to play fster then that... didnt seem to really run too hard .... good pick if we can get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Jordy ran 4.49 in 40 at Combine...seems to play fster then that... didnt seem to really run too hard ....good pick if we can get him He was originally projected as a mid-round pick (say 4th or 5th) but with his latest timed speed I think he'll move up. He might cost the Skins a 3rd round pick. You might say that's a lot but Cooley cost a 3rd round pick and he turned out alright for the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 contributes on teams as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 It may have been on that play but overall Aqib Talib isn't a bad CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 It may have been on that play but overall Aqib Talib isn't a bad CB. Talib is a question mark for me i don't like drafting Cb's high unless its a sure thing like Champ Bailey,Woodson etc to many question marks mainly the level of competition faced. And Jordy roasted him bigtime that game. I'm gonna tell you even though he is smallish at 5-10 185lbs Eddie Royal is climbing. The guy did 24 reps at 225lbs, ran a sub 4.4 40 and showed great route running skills. He has always been a dangerous return man with the ability to burn you deep but i seriously think VT Qb's hurt his numbers bigtime. He was the guy i feared everytime UVA played VT. Mayock said he has been steadily climbing all offseason and is entrenched into the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercuryrising Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Nelson's profile has him listed as 4.60 in the 40, but he just ran 4.53 and 4.49 at the combine. I would love to have him opposite Moss with ARE in the slot and only use a 3rd round pick to get him instead of over-paying for some FA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanders 83 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I have a soft spot for Marcus Henry, who no one seems to be talking about. I got to watch Kansas play several times this year, and he really has it all. Size, speed, and great hands. This kid can play, and should be around late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Pretty much any WR you'd get excited about will be long gone by our 3rd round pick. If we get one that late, it will be someone, you'll be like, "who?", like Edward Williams and/or someone you'll think sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBass Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State. He ran a 4.69 40 and only had 14 reps @225lbs...I'd put Derrick Frost at receiver before I'd draft this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemSkinz Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 So what's the knock on Nelson? Timed speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYskins Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Skins need a WR but, like many of you, I don't think the Skins need to look for one in the first round. EXACTLY. Well said. This thread is more to the point of what we should be looking for. You want to find a diamond in the rough???? Here u go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 He ran a 4.69 40 and only had 14 reps @225lbs...I'd put Derrick Frost at receiver before I'd draft this guy. Thats why you take him as a 4th rounder and introduce him to an NFL nutritionist and the weight room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I would be really happy if the 'skins drafted Arman Shields from Richmond. He is 6'1 and very fast. I know him personally and he is a great guy, humble, but also very talented. The reason nobody is talking about him is because he was hurt for all but one game this past year,and he's from a small program. But he was the best athlete on Richmond's very good football team this past year and had an incredible combine-- he finished no lower than 7th among wide outs in every single category of work outs, including: 7th among wr's in the 40: 4.44 seconds T 7th in the bench press: 19 reps T 2nd in the vertical jump: 37.5 inches 2nd in the broad jump: 10'8" 2nd in the 3 cone drill: 6.67 seconds 1st in the 20 yard shuttle: 3.96 seconds 1st in the 60 yard shuttle: 10.87 seconds If Arman hadn't been hurt, I seriously think that Richmond could have beaten Appalachian State when they played them in the Semifinals this year because he is as good and athletic as Dexter Jackson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 WR Jerome Simpson impressed me the most. His stock might be rising to late 2nd round however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I would be really happy if the 'skins drafted Arman Shields from Richmond.He is 6'1 and very fast. I know him personally and he is a great guy, humble, but also very talented. The reason nobody is talking about him is because he was hurt for all but one game this past year,and he's from a small program. But he was the best athlete on Richmond's very good football team this past year and had an incredible combine-- he finished no lower than 7th among wide outs in every single category of work outs, including: 7th among wr's in the 40: 4.44 seconds T 7th in the bench press: 19 reps T 2nd in the vertical jump: 37.5 inches 2nd in the broad jump: 10'8" 2nd in the 3 cone drill: 6.67 seconds 1st in the 20 yard shuttle: 3.96 seconds 1st in the 60 yard shuttle: 10.87 seconds If Arman hadn't been hurt, I seriously think that Richmond could have beaten Appalachian State when they played them in the Semifinals this year because he is as good and athletic as Dexter Jackson is. Just noticed this guy. He has a lot of upside after reviewing his combine profile: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/arman-shields?id=2706 It would be nice to draft a local prospect (Gonzaga), too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I knew nothing about Jordy Nelson before watching these clips and doing a bit of research. I like him. He seems to run very well after the catch and would bring some toughness to the WR position. He doesnt seem to use his height very well though. At least I didnt see him go up over too many DBs for contested balls in any of the highlights that Ive seen. He would definately be a nice find in the middle rounds IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 go ahead lie to yourself and everyone else, tell us he cant play hes to slow or other bs! everytime you watch KSU play this kid POPS! i love when the NFL network boob said he is a Wes Welker like player, oh yeah except he is 6'2' 230ish:cheers: Ok I only watched about 1 min 30 secs of this and I am sold. Those 1 handed catches and the catch between his legs, and the Falling catch keeping both feet inbound. HE IS AWESOME. I would be ok with getting him and proud to wear a BG Nelson jersey if he could perform the same way for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Anyone have thoughts on Arman Shields? He played at richmond and had a monster day at the Combine considering he was an unknown going in. 40 yard dash - 4.4 - 5th best time bench Press 19 reps, tied for 7th vertical jumb 37.5 tied for 7th Broad Jump 10' 8 2nd place 3 cone drill - 6.67 2nd place 20 yard shuttle 3.96 - 1st place 60 yard shuttle 10.87 - 1st place he impressed alot of people and those numbers are pretty good. he is 6'1 so he has the height we are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I'm all for drafting talent.. But we've had the Patton and Lloyd experiments.. And after that tweeners and rookies kind of scare me at the WR position. I'd like some security, talent and someone sure across the field from Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Pretty much any WR you'd get excited about will be long gone by our 3rd round pick.If we get one that late, it will be someone, you'll be like, "who?", like Edward Williams and/or someone you'll think sucks. I disagree. A third round pick is a HIGH pick and not just where you hope to find "diamonds in the rough". In the third round you get guys who were incredibly productive in college but for some reason are not considered elite prospects. For example, we got Cooley in the third. He wasn't considered an elite TE because he didn't have elite speed. But, if you look at his college career he was a monster. I'm hoping the Skins are able to get Jordy Nelson and he has as much success with the Skins as Cooley. IMO, rounds 5-7 are where you look for "diamonds in the rough". Don't forget that there used to be 12 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat87 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Adrian Arrington Scouting Report http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/...rospect_ID=1346 Position: WR School & Year/Status: Michigan - Junior Height & Weight: 6'3 - 195 lbs. 2008 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report Michigan's decision to hire Rich Rodriguez has pushed Adrian Arrington to enter the NFL draft. Arrington could not have asked for a better spring board, having finished his collegiate career with 9 catches, 153 yards and 2 TDs against Florida in the Capital One Bowl. He finished the season with 67 catches for 882 yards and 8 TDs. These stats are excellent, considering he is the second receiver on a run first football team. He averaged 5 catches per game, 13.2 yards per catch, and 67.8 yards per game. Arrington has good size at 6'3" and would make a nice target in the red zone. He has good hands and served as the possession receiver at Michigan. Arrington didn't get much chance to show off his speed, but has plenty of it. His Wolverine career came to an end with totals of 109 catches, 1438 yards, and he scored 16 TDs in just 34 career games. Arrington should find himself taken off the board in the middle rounds of the draft. He's not well known, but Arrington could emerge as a steal. He has the talent to be a number 2 receiver in the NFL. we are looking for this right? Quote: Originally Posted by PlayAction Skins need a WR but, like many of you, I don't think the Skins need to look for one in the first round. i agree jordy is great too, but i think id rather have this guy. use our 2nd round pick, i dont think roy williams is going anywhere, or trade higher up into the 3rd. hes a great possesion receiver - see michigan florida game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemann71 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 it sounds like he could be a deep threat; it takes him longer to get going but once he does, he can run fast. but i'm with you...we need a tall possession WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Adrian Arrington Scouting Reporthttp://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/...rospect_ID=1346 Position: WR School & Year/Status: Michigan - Junior Height & Weight: 6'3 - 195 lbs. 2008 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report Michigan's decision to hire Rich Rodriguez has pushed Adrian Arrington to enter the NFL draft. Arrington could not have asked for a better spring board, having finished his collegiate career with 9 catches, 153 yards and 2 TDs against Florida in the Capital One Bowl. He finished the season with 67 catches for 882 yards and 8 TDs. These stats are excellent, considering he is the second receiver on a run first football team. He averaged 5 catches per game, 13.2 yards per catch, and 67.8 yards per game. Arrington has good size at 6'3" and would make a nice target in the red zone. He has good hands and served as the possession receiver at Michigan. Arrington didn't get much chance to show off his speed, but has plenty of it. His Wolverine career came to an end with totals of 109 catches, 1438 yards, and he scored 16 TDs in just 34 career games. Arrington should find himself taken off the board in the middle rounds of the draft. He's not well known, but Arrington could emerge as a steal. He has the talent to be a number 2 receiver in the NFL. we are looking for this right? The NFLDraftScout's analysis is not as favorable on this guy: Positives: Tall frame with fair upper body strength. ... Very long arms. ... Good timing and hands on jump balls. ... Makes great catches look easy at times. ... Presents big target to the quarterback. ... Lined up in slot and flanker. Negatives: A bit thin in the hips. ... Takes time to get to top speed. ... Inconsistent concentration on easier catches or ones over the middle. ... Hasn't proven himself to be a reliable go-to receiver. ... Not especially quick coming into or out of breaks. ... Should sink his hips more. ... Routes needs to be tighter, as he rounds off too many. ... A bit lazy when ball isn't going to him. ... Inconsistent effort on run blocking. ... Lacks experience -- redshirted his true sophomore season with an injury. ... Some off-field issues (domestic assault charge, another undisclosed incident) led to suspension for the 2005 Alamo Bowl and 2007 spring practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The NFLDraftScout's analysis is not as favorable on this guy:Positives: Tall frame with fair upper body strength. ... Very long arms. ... Good timing and hands on jump balls. ... Makes great catches look easy at times. ... Presents big target to the quarterback. ... Lined up in slot and flanker. Negatives: A bit thin in the hips. ... Takes time to get to top speed. ... Inconsistent concentration on easier catches or ones over the middle. ... Hasn't proven himself to be a reliable go-to receiver. ... Not especially quick coming into or out of breaks. ... Should sink his hips more. ... Routes needs to be tighter, as he rounds off too many. ... A bit lazy when ball isn't going to him. ... Inconsistent effort on run blocking. ... Lacks experience -- redshirted his true sophomore season with an injury. ... Some off-field issues (domestic assault charge, another undisclosed incident) led to suspension for the 2005 Alamo Bowl and 2007 spring practice. But give the guy a chance, maybe he can show any team something. I think he's learned from his off field stuff. But 6'3 and can mature into a #2, I'd go after him in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 But give the guy a chance, maybe he can show any team something. I think he's learned from his off field stuff. But 6'3 and can mature into a #2, I'd go after him in the later rounds. Bingo. In the later rounds you aren't going to find guys with favorable scouting reports in every area. That's why they won't be drafted in the 1st/2nd round, though. Plus, all it takes is one glance at Arrington's highlight reel. He makes some spectacular catches in traffic, which is what is needed for the WCO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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