PlayAction Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Skins need a WR but, like many of you, I don't think the Skins need to look for one in the first round. My guess is that the Skins are looking for a WR to fit the Split End position in the WCO. I've been scanning the different draft sites looking for WRs that might fit the bill. Quick off the line, good route runner, position receiver and most importantly productive in college. Jordy Nelson from Kansas State seems like he might work. Height: 6-3 | Weight: 217 | 40-Time: 4.60 NFLDraftcountdown Official Bio Strengths: Has excellent size and bulk with a solid frame...Very productive...Has soft, reliable hands...Shows terrific body control and ball skills...He's more quick than fast...Can run after the catch a bit...Smart, hard working and tough...Still has a little upside. Weaknesses: Does not have great timed speed and lacks a burst...Is not much of a deep threat and won't stretch the field vertically...Is just a slightly above average blocker...Still relatively new to the position & must work on mastering its techniques / nuances. Per NFL Combine Player Stats Overview Nelson signed with Kansas State as a safety before making the transition to wide receiver as a sophomore. His initial season at receiver was impressive, with Nelson earning Honorable Mention Big 12 honors with 45 catches for 669 yards and eight TDs. Hampered by a knee injury that caused him to miss three games, Nelson saw his numbers drop to 39 catches for 547 yards and only one score in 2006 before exploding into a First Team All-American in 2007. Nelson finished second only to Biletnikoff winner Michael Crabtree (Texas Tech) in both catches (122) and receiving yards (1,606). As the focus on the Kansas State passing game, Nelson's numbers are clearly inflated. To attribute his success strictly to this offense, however, is a mistake. His combination of size, route-running and hands make him at least a quality possession receiver prospect. Ultimately, Nelson's stock will be determined by his 40-yard dash time. The 4.62 he clocked for scouts last spring is not indicative of Nelson's true speed. This timing came with Nelson still rehabilitating his left knee injury and thus, may not be indicative of his true speed. He was an all-state track star during high school and has been timed at a 10.62 in the 100-meter dash. Nelson's strong senior campaign assures him of being drafted. A strong postseason performance in the Senior Bowl and at the Combine could result in his stock skyrocketing. Positives: Intriguing combination of size, hands and overall athleticism for the position. ... Developed into an All-American wideout after signing with Kansas State as a safety. ... Good initial quickness off the snap to get into his route. ... Sneaky deep speed made more effective by good route-running. ... Best attribute might be his hands and toughness. ... Can adjust to the poorly thrown ball and pluck it out of the air or off his shoe laces. ... Knows when to make the body catch when defenders are near. ... Good body control to get his feet down in bounds and knows where the first down marker is. ... Enjoyed strong games against quality cornerbacks (Dwight Lowery, Terrence Wheatley, Aqib Talib). ... Enjoyed a monster senior campaign -- but was very effective as a sophomore and junior (pre-injury) as well. ... Faster on the field than his timed 40-yard dash would indicate. Negatives: A better athlete than given credit for, but isn't the elite athlete his senior production may have you believe. ... Good route-runner, but lacks explosiveness out of his breaks and elite deep ball speed. ... Primary target in this offense, receiving more than twice as many passes his way than any other Wildcat receiver. ... Big play artist for KSU, but may lack the acceleration to be anything more than a possession receiver at the next level. ... Suffered a sprained PCL in his left knee that hampered him throughout the 2006 season. Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange. So the guy doesn't have elite speed and is unlikely to be a deep threat. So what? Skins have the deep threat in Moss. If Jordy Nelson is as good as these writeups he sounds perfect for the Skins. Even better, the lack of elite speed plus many WRs ahead of him mean that he would likely be a mid round pick. Unfortunately, Skins don't have a 4th round pick. What do you guys think? Any other mid round possibilities out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State and Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State are really the only guys in the 3rd to 5th range worth taking. I'll also say I have no earthly idea where WR Arrington will land. There are alot better WR's in the 2nd such as Early Doucet, Mario Manningham, James Hardy, and Devin Thomas. 3rd-5th rounds are loaded with DT's and O-lineman this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 go ahead lie to yourself and everyone else, tell us he cant play hes to slow or other bs! everytime you watch KSU play this kid POPS! i love when the NFL network boob said he is a Wes Welker like player, oh yeah except he is 6'2' 230ish:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 note his game against Kansas, with the Highly rated some of your first round choice CB http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=148060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianforster Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Wow he sure did have a monster 2007 campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 He's certainly an interesting prospect. He's the kind of guy that would run a terrible 40, jump very low, then abuse every CB that dares to get in his way. He's an anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 not bad...good returner.... it would be like having 2 Rndl Els Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 bump uhh cuz i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 not bad...good returner.... it would be like having 2 Rndl Els execpt this one is 6'3:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Adrian Arrington is intriguing, and might be had as late as the 6th round, which would seemingly be a steal. Adrian Arrington Scouting Report http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1346 Position: WR School & Year/Status: Michigan - Junior Height & Weight: 6'3 - 195 lbs. 2008 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report Michigan's decision to hire Rich Rodriguez has pushed Adrian Arrington to enter the NFL draft. Arrington could not have asked for a better spring board, having finished his collegiate career with 9 catches, 153 yards and 2 TDs against Florida in the Capital One Bowl. He finished the season with 67 catches for 882 yards and 8 TDs. These stats are excellent, considering he is the second receiver on a run first football team. He averaged 5 catches per game, 13.2 yards per catch, and 67.8 yards per game. Arrington has good size at 6'3" and would make a nice target in the red zone. He has good hands and served as the possession receiver at Michigan. Arrington didn't get much chance to show off his speed, but has plenty of it. His Wolverine career came to an end with totals of 109 catches, 1438 yards, and he scored 16 TDs in just 34 career games. Arrington should find himself taken off the board in the middle rounds of the draft. He's not well known, but Arrington could emerge as a steal. He has the talent to be a number 2 receiver in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Gutlead has sole me on Nelson. When's he projected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Gutlead has sole me on Nelson. When's he projected? Right now he's projected to go in the third or fourth round - ranked about 114 overall. I like him, but he might be a reach for the Skins in the 3rd (80th overall pick,) and the Skins don't have a 4th. I'd rather see the Skins address CB, DE, OT/OG in the first three rounds, and address WR in rounds 5-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 OG in the first with Albert, to tired to think of a de in the second, and Jordy in the 3rd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSUSkinsfan21 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thank you for posting this thread PlayAction. I've been preaching that we need Jordy Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleskins Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Jayson Foster. Georgia Southern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Jordy just ran 4.5 and 4.4 at the combine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Jayson Foster. Georgia Southern i do believe he will be available later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 anyone else notice how mayock and company are just glowing about Jordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 anyone else notice how mayock and company are just glowing about Jordy Not as much as you are glowing about him :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S DOT21 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 JAMES HARDY if he is available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Not as much as you are glowing about him :laugh: guilty, sorry but hell every time you watch KSU the kid POPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 geez gutlead, talk about a man crush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 well i really like the kid and i really dont want to waste a 1st round on a WR when Brandon Albert may well be sitting there at a real NEED position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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