DM72 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 This is just my opinion, but I think it has to do with who Floyd is fighting, rather than it just being Floyd. His Guerrero numbers were well south of a million buys. I believe his numbers with Kahn may be even lower. I've gotten all his PPV's and I won't be getting this one by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pacquiao-says-borrowing-typhoon-aid-110326798--spt.html I hope this isn't a serious issue for Pac. I've read other stories from people close to him that says he spends his money faster than he makes it. I would hate to see him fighting well beyond the point of reason simply because he needs the funds. When it rains, it pours: http://fighthype.com/news/article15709.html Edited December 7, 2013 by T-REX1240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 So now that we know the June 7 date is official, Miguel Cotto chose Sergio Martinez (instead of Saul Alvarez) as his next opponent, who's next Canelo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Very good card on Showtime tonight. Judah vs Malignaggi is only the main event on paper, but it's the least anticipated fight of the night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Kirkland vs. Tapia & Rigondeaux vs. Agbeko on HBO as well. This Lara/Trout fight was a good matchup on paper, but I was afraid their styles might lead to a bit of a stinker in the ring. When you get 2 natural counterpunchers in the ring, somebody has to lead to make it exciting. Neither one is wanting to lead. I have Lara up so far, seems the sharper of the two. Edited December 8, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have it 8-1 Lara after 9, judges hate him though so it will probably be closer if it goes the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Trout gets dropped in the 11th, Lara is outclassing him plain and simple. Its been a boring fight, but Lara is showing his class. Its not easy to outbox Trout, even when Canelo beat him it was more of outworking him. This has been school. Edited December 8, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Porter following that Bradley blueprint right now, has hurt Alexander a couple of times early. Upset might be brewing. At one point and time, Porter was a hot prospect, but a few bad outings kinda changed opinions on him. He appears to be putting it all together so far tonight. He's shutting out Alexander after 4. Edited December 8, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Kirkland/Tapia is war after 2 rounds, expected nothing less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I love Kirkland's trainer, Anne Wolf: "you took his nuts, now take his heart" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Tapia's corner did him no favors sending him out for that last round, I hope Tapia isn't seriously hurt after that one. That fight was almost a mirror of Kirkland's fight with Angulo. Kirkland took a beating in the first round, then walked him down with vicious shots the rest of the way. Kirkland is a different fighter under Ann Wolfe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Lara is probably the best fighter no one knows about. He systematically took Trout apart. And why is Judah STILL getting prime fights? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Next time Kirkland fights in Atlantic City, I'm gonna go see it live. That dude is a super entertaining fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Interesting Move By The WBC: Mayweather/Pacquiao related www.boxingnews24.com/2013/12/wbc-ranks-pacquiao-1-at-147-below-mayweather/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Interesting Move By The WBC: Mayweather/Pacquiao related www.boxingnews24.com/2013/12/wbc-ranks-pacquiao-1-at-147-below-mayweather/ Boxing commissions don't matter much in general, they matter even less when it comes to the likes of Mayweather/Pac/other established superstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That's true, but by doing this, isn't they putting pressure on Mayweather to either fight Pacquiao or drop the title? Most believe he's been ducking Pacquiao already, if he drops a title to avoid him, that would pretty much confirm it in a lot of people's eyes. Also this move by WBC is a way of telling Top Rank and Golden Boy to make this fight NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) That's true, but by doing this, isn't they putting pressure on Mayweather to either fight Pacquiao or drop the title? Most believe he's been ducking Pacquiao already, if he drops a title to avoid him, that would pretty much confirm it in a lot of people's eyes. Also this move by WBC is a way of telling Top Rank and Golden Boy to make this fight NOW.That would only matter if people still put stock & credibility in commission titles, they don't. Be very clear, the WBC or any other sanctioning body does not possess the power or credibility to make stripping a fighter have any impact. If they stripped Mayweather, it wouldn't change the conversation in boxing one iota. These sanctioning bodies have spent the last decade plus destroying their own credibility, they're not worth discussing in a reasonable debate. The WBC is exposing their own incomptence in that release. Pac goes from not being in their top 15 to #1 based on shutting out Brandon Rios? That makes no sense. Even worse than that, according to that article, Luis Carlos Abregu was #1 before Pac. That should tell you all you need to know about the WBC. Edited December 9, 2013 by StillUnknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That's true, but by doing this, isn't they putting pressure on Mayweather to either fight Pacquiao or drop the title? Most believe he's been ducking Pacquiao already, if he drops a title to avoid him, that would pretty much confirm it in a lot of people's eyes. Also this move by WBC is a way of telling Top Rank and Golden Boy to make this fight NOW. So previously they were putting the pressure on Mayweather to fight Luis Carlos Abregu? I'm not a Arum fan but Jose Sulaiman makes him look like an upstanding citizen. They'll strip Mayweather of the belt and nothing will change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 What you guys say is true, but the WBC is said to have a good relationship with Golden Boy. I just find it strange that they'd just move Pacquiao to #1 just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Jesus: Manny Pacquiao has 18 MILLION new tax problems ... in addition to his $50 million tax fight in the Philippines ... and this time, it's Uncle Sam that's trying to force Manny to pay up. TMZ Sports has obtained official documents which show the IRS claims Manny stiffed the government out of federal income taxes from 2006 to 2010 ... totaling $18,313,668.79 in debt. Here's the yearly breakdown: 2006 -- $1,160,324.30 2007 -- $2,035,992.502008 -- $2,862,437.112009 -- $8,022,915.872010 -- $4,231,999.01Interesting note -- Manny had 3 big fights in 2008, including a match against Oscar De La Hoya in which MP reportedly banked $15-$30 million in guaranteed cash. In 2009, Manny famously fought Ricky Hatton and earned a $12 million purse. Manny's U.S. tax problems come on the heels of a nasty tax war in his home country, The Philippines ... where the govt. claims he evaded paying $50 million in taxes in 2008 and 2009 stemming from fights that took place in the United States.Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/10/manny-pacquiao-irs-tax-united-states-18-million/#ixzz2n8hOEaxl Hopefully this dude can get this sorted out ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yeah I hate to see any fighter, especially great ones, fighting well beyond their prime and competitiveness because they need the check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 One thing Manny still has going for him is that he's still making a lot of money. I know Manny and Top Rank is claiming you can't be taxed 2 times which would be double jeopardy. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Showtime is ending the year with a quadruple header tonight, with a damn good main event. I'll take Broner to outclass Maidana. Broner would be wise to use his movement and speed advantage to give Maidana a moving target. If he stands flat footed and tries to shoulder roll like he did against Malignaggi, Maidana will most likely crack his jaw. He's not nearly as good at that shoulder roll as he thinks he is and can be hit clean. I'm thinking that Broner will realize he can't be a stationary target like he was against Paulie and Maidana doesn't do so well when faced with a mover. Its how Devon Alexander was able to completely neutralize him when they fought. I expect Maidana will have a moment or two, but I think Broner clearly shows his class and wins a wide decision or gets a late stoppage. The co-main event is Jesus Soto Kara vs. Keith Thurman, this could and should be a firefight. Soto Karas was last seen upsetting Andre Berto, Thurman is a pretty good prospect with power who proved in his last fight he could take a shot. Both guys have some defensive deficiencies so it should be a very good fight to watch. I'm not sold on Thurman as a great prospect, but I think he's talented enough and hits hard enough to do enough damage to get through a tough Soto Karas. The 3rd fight features Leo Santa Cruz. He's not fighting anybody of note, but Santa Cruz is always worth watching, particularly how he attacks the body. Santa Cruz is easily one of my 3 or 4 favorite fighters to watch right now. Edited December 14, 2013 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Very impressive work by Keith Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I think I would pick Thurman to beat Broner if they fought anytime soon. Thurman has some defensive holes, but I love the way he switches tactics in the middle of a fight. He can punch, but he knows how to box. Very intriguing fighter moving forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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