Mania Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 In 2005 When all three of these players were chosen in the first round it was of widespread opinion from the mediots that Campbell was made better by having Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams. Now that Campbell has 8 starts and the other two have been starting from the beginning, I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't the other way around. Maybe, just maybe Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown were made better do to Campbell's inate ability to complete downfield passes and yes, he was pretty darn accurate in college as well. Oh yes, they all benefited from having each other in college, but I feel Williams and Brown benefited more Campbell. Brown has proven nothing since being drafted by Miami and Cadillac although he had a decent rookie year, had a down year last year. I guess we will see in time, but I'd like to have some opinions from other ES members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Caddy and Ronnie are definately looking mediocre in the NFL. Learning curve for an RB is also much shorter. They have both shown flashes but I don't think either will ever be upper echelon type rbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 ronnie brown...the bane of my fantasy football existence. :redpunch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stricknine Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think they all benefitted from each other. That Auburn team was just plain good all around. Brown, Williams, and yes...even Campbell went to teams that werent so great. Our team seems to have more weapons than the other 2 and as faras Im concerned is the overall better team so Campbell will end up looking better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 ronnie brown...the bane of my fantasy football existence. :redpunch: Indeed. I did take a flyer on Cadillac as my fourth RB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I know Cadillac was playing injured the whole season last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I've never liked Brown much, but I don't think it was Campbell, but the O-line. He just doesn't hit the hole hard or fast. In college you get those big holes you could walk through. Williams has just been hurt too much to make a judge of what type of NFL player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Caddy had the best four game start by a RB in NFL history(or something like that)and has since faded because of injuries and just flat out lack of production. I definitely think Campbell helped them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Caddy and Ronnie are definately looking mediocre in the NFL. Learning curve for an RB is also much shorter. They have both shown flashes but I don't think either will ever be upper echelon type rbs. Caddy is more due to injuries though, imho. He started out on fire and injuries keep coming up. Brown just hasn't looked all that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 If Campbell had to play behind those two lines and we had one of those RBs behind our line, you would be singing a different tune. Football is not an individual sport, which is why being a GM requires much more research on players than just pure talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Good thread. I think having Cadillac and Brown made many people overlook Campbell without actually watching him or taking a look at his stats. At the same time, having them probably helped open up the pass game as well. Works both ways. But having them in there doesn't change the fact that in his senior year Campbell threw for 2700 yards with a 69.6 comp%, 20 TDs, and only 7 INTs. It isn't like he just sat back there and gave the ball to Caddilac or Brown every play. That is why I'm not too concerned with some of his accuracy issues against Miami. It is something I think will be fixed quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy2Der Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think the fact the two running backs shared so much carries made them fresher throught the game and made them seem better than they were, not to many great back come from a rb commitee in college their usuall the single star back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Obviously Jason benefited having Cadillac and Ronnie on his team. Funny you never hear that about Matt Leinart who had Reggie Bush and Lendale White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 In 2005 When all three of these players were chosen in the first round it was of widespread opinion from the mediots that Campbell was made better by having Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams.Now that Campbell has 8 starts and the other two have been starting from the beginning, I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't the other way around. Maybe, just maybe Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown were made better do to Campbell's inate ability to complete downfield passes and yes, he was pretty darn accurate in college as well. Oh yes, they all benefited from having each other in college, but I feel Williams and Brown benefited more Campbell. Brown has proven nothing since being drafted by Miami and Cadillac although he had a decent rookie year, had a down year last year. I guess we will see in time, but I'd like to have some opinions from other ES members. Its starting to look that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 they both suck...Either way....Campbell has a better duo in teh backfield now than he did in college.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Don't forget Carlos Rogers was on that team also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Please campbell has won what 3 games? Brown is stuck in a crap situation in Miami, and Caddillac tore the league up his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Maybe they all benefited from having Marcus McNeill and Ben Grubbs on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Cadillac was run ragged his first two seasons with Tampa Bay. Ronnie Brown is running behind one of the greenest o-lines in the NFL. I'm not saying either one of these guys is a star but your comment that Campbell was making them look better is probably not true. Campbell hasn't exactly been lighting it up yet has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 ronnie brown...the bane of my fantasy football existence. :redpunch: I feel your pain brother. I am in a similar situation. I want to cut him so bad. I will give it another two weeks and see. Our D could have just been that good against the run last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 In 2005 When all three of these players were chosen in the first round it was of widespread opinion from the mediots that Campbell was made better by having Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams.Now that Campbell has 8 starts and the other two have been starting from the beginning, I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't the other way around. Maybe, just maybe Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown were made better do to Campbell's inate ability to complete downfield passes and yes, he was pretty darn accurate in college as well. Oh yes, they all benefited from having each other in college, but I feel Williams and Brown benefited more Campbell. Brown has proven nothing since being drafted by Miami and Cadillac although he had a decent rookie year, had a down year last year. I guess we will see in time, but I'd like to have some opinions from other ES members. no offense but work on some of your english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dam, I forgot Ronnie Brown was the #2 over pick in '05. The Dolphins have the worst luck when it comes to RB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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