Koolblue13 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Deacon Jones would hold the all time sack record if they kept track of that sort of thing when he played.Isn't Deacon the reason they started to record sack numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 BTW, I don't see a Redskin on there, why isn't it in the ATN yet? Don't give me the BS arguement, he is a Skin like Deon is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I was hoping Dexter Manley had a shot at making the list he was only pass rusher that we have had that could make the list. The Bruce Smith we had wasnt the one I saw playing for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderMustGo Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 One thing to note, they didn't show a single clip of Bruce Smith in a Redskins uni. Why would they? I'm getting really tired of this "the media is in a conspiracy against us! look at how we got shafted here!" shtick. There is no reason to lay claim to Bruce Smith or think that the media would show him in our uniform. He played 15 years in Buffalo, during which time he went to multiple Super Bowls with them. He had 200 sacks in his career, and 171 of them came in Buffalo. 85.5% of his sacks came with one team. Why would they show clips of him as a Redskin? We only had him for 4 years at the end of his career. Nobody other than Redskins fans think of him as anything other than a Buffalo Bill. So quit crying foul. That act is getting really old on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Derrick Thomas should be top 5. He was an absolute beast and when he was on his game no tackle could block him coming off the outside.He was definitely an animal.BTW StillUnknown, love your sig man. And I hope he stays retired also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbeskin Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 What! No Carter or Daniels! The media is so biased against us..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I saw this on NFL network and they didint even give an honorable mention to ANY Redskin pass rusher. I was suprised not to see Mann or Dexter get one of those. the reason they gave for not having LT at #1 was because he was a linebacker and free to roam around. I ususally hate lists and rankings type things because they are so subjective, but the NFL top ten I love. I get to see guys I have never heard of before like Gino Marchetti and Doug Atkins. What blew me away in this show was an honorable mention to an Eagles lineman from the 50's,I cant remeber his name (nickname was wildman) but he "unoffically" recorded 17 sacks in one game. NOTE: one of the funniest things I ever saw on Top 10 was the fat Pittsburgh radio guy not being able to wrap his head around how the late 80's to early 90's New Orleans Saints had a better linebackng core than his precious 70 Steelers:laugh::laugh::laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Yeah, Dexter definitely belongs on there. Kevin Greene? Please. LT should be ahead of Reggie White. I agree that Dexter should be on there but I think Reggie White is in the right place. In terms of pure pass rushing (and being a great human being) White is (was, R.I.P.) the man. In terms of being a feral animal that happened to have a human shape and could do pretty much anything, including rush the passer, LT wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Deacon Jones is number 1 hands down... I am sorry but Dexter Manley was better than Kevin Greene. I don't care what Greene's numbers are.. Dexter was better. PERIOD ! AMEN --- that is why i picked my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 One thing to note, they didn't show a single clip of Bruce Smith in a Redskins uni.And I would disagree with this list, I would have Reggie White at #1. Personally, I'd like to forget Bruce Smith's time in a Redskins uniform. Near the end, he kinda left a bad taste in my mouth. Deacon Jones created the "sack" before it was known as a "sack." Without him, there is no Reggie White. I must admit, also, that I'm surprised Dexter didn't make the top ten. At his peak, offenses had to adjust their game around where he lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsm88 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Derrick Thomas should be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 no richard dent? bruce probably would still be our best pass rusher if he played today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I was about to ask why, but then I saw your age...If you could tell me who Doug Atkins played for without doing a google search, then I might believe that you had enough of a sense of history to name the best pass rushers ever...& not just "the best pass-rushers I can see on youtube". Sorry to tweak you because of your age, but other folks who have been around football for a lot longer time than you or I talk about Jones as having the "unofficial" sack record. When the NFL implements a rule change against a move solely because you're too effective in using it...well, then you're on hallowed ground. The "head slap" rule is in the NFL because of Deacon Jones, just like the clothesline rule is there because of Night train Lane. I loved watching White & Taylor play (Except when they were performing mayhem on the Skins, of course). However, I totally agree with putting Deacon #1. Roy Williams got the horse collar outlawed. He's not so great. What would the list have looked like if Reggie White were allowed to head slap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 My suspicion has always been that Deacon Jones was nowhere near as good as a lot of the old-timers love to claim he was. I mean, I simply have a hard time accepting that he had 27 sacks in a 14 game-season in a run-first era whereas the record for 16 games in a pass-first era is 22.5. There are just too many Paul Bunyan type stories attached to him. Dexter's problem is that he really only had 4 solid years and only 2 great years in terms of sacks. He just didn't play enough. If you had to list the best single seasons for sack artists, he should be in the Top 5 though. http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=MANLEDEX01 Why isn't Warren Sapp on this list? To do what he did as an entire lineman is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area51 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I think its b.s. that Deacon Jones gets put #1. Slapping someone in the head may have been legal but it's still cheap. He didn't beat his opponents but rather cheated them. It takes away from what the others have done by putting Jones on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I'm surprised John Randle isn't there. That man was a like 6'1 DT and was just an animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I'm surprised John Randle isn't there. That man was a like 6'1 DT and was just an animal. http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=RANDLJOH01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I think its b.s. that Deacon Jones gets put #1. Slapping someone in the head may have been legal but it's still cheap. He didn't beat his opponents but rather cheated them. Actually he did beat his opponent............Senseless!!!He was a pressure machine and although having a "legal" slap move, that was not the only way he reached the QB. He was big, quick and beat his opposition fair and square many times. He was often double teamed or chipped and blocked, yet consistently got to the QB. Deacon deserves to be there. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEGSKINS Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 where is dexter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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