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http://www.nfl.com/history/legends/1980s

1980s ALL-DECADE TEAM

Chosen by the Hall of Fame Selection Committee members.

Offense

Wide Receiver Jerry Rice

Wide Receiver Steve Largent

Wide Receiver James Lofton

Wide Receiver Art Monk

Tight End Kellen Winslow

Tight End Ozzie Newsome

Tackle Anthony Munoz

Tackle Jim Covert

Tackle Gary Zimmerman

Tackle Joe Jacoby

Guard John Hannah

Guard Russ Grimm

Guard Bill Fralic

Guard Mike Munchak

Center Dwight Stephenson

Center Mike Webster

Quarterback Joe Montana

Quarterback Dan Fouts

Running Back Walter Payton

Running Back Eric Dickerson

Running Back Roger Craig

Running Back John Riggins

Defense

End Reggie White

End Howie Long

End Lee Roy Selmon

End Bruce Smith

Tackle Randy White

Tackle Dan Hampton

Tackle Keith Millard

Tackle Dave Butz

Linebacker Mike Singletary

Linebacker Lawrence Taylor

Linebacker Ted Hendricks

Linebacker Jack Lambert

Linebacker Andre Tippett

Linebacker John Anderson

Linebacker Carl Banks

Cornerback Mike Haynes

Cornerback Mel Blount

Cornerback Frank Minnifield

Cornerback Lester Hayes

Safety Ronnie Lott

Safety Kenny Easley

Safety Deron Cherry

Safety Joey Browner

Safety Nolan Cromwell

Specialists

Punter Sean Landeta

Punter Reggie Roby

Kicker Morten Andersen

Kicker Gary Anderson

Kicker Eddie Murray

Punt Returner Billy (White Shoes) Johnson

Punt Returner John Taylor

Kick Returner Mike Nelms

Kick Returner Rick Upchurch

Coach Bill Walsh

Coach Chuck Noll

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another thing to add on this, is that it doesn't matter what your stats are.. You were regarded as the best by your peers in that decade

I think you missed the point here. The 80's All Decade Team was named BY the HOF Selection Committee. They can name Monk to this team, but not to the HOF?

Stop the world, I wanna get off.

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Yeah, I was looking at that a few days ago:

Offense

Wide Receiver Jerry Rice (HOF eligible in 2010)

Wide Receiver Steve Largent (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver James Lofton (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver Art Monk

Tight End Kellen Winslow (Hall of Fame)

Tight End Ozzie Newsome (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Anthony Munoz (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Jim Covert

Tackle Gary Zimmerman

Tackle Joe Jacoby

Guard John Hannah (Hall of Fame)

Guard Russ Grimm

Guard Bill Fralic

Guard Mike Munchak (Hall of Fame)

Center Dwight Stephenson (Hall of Fame)

Center Mike Webster (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Joe Montana (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Dan Fouts (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Walter Payton (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Eric Dickerson (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Roger Craig

Running Back John Riggins (Hall of Fame)

Defense

End Reggie White (Hall of Fame)

End Howie Long (Hall of Fame)

End Lee Roy Selmon (Hall of Fame)

End Bruce Smith (HOF eligible in 2009)

Tackle Randy White (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Dan Hampton (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Keith Millard

Tackle Dave Butz

Linebacker Mike Singletary (Hall of Fame)

Linebacker Lawrence Taylor (Hall of Fame)

Linebacker Ted Hendricks (Hall of Fame)

Linebacker Jack Lambert (Hall of Fame)

Linebacker Andre Tippett

Linebacker John Anderson

Linebacker Carl Banks

Cornerback Mike Haynes (Hall of Fame)

Cornerback Mel Blount (Hall of Fame)

Cornerback Frank Minnifield

Cornerback Lester Hayes

Safety Ronnie Lott (Hall of Fame)

Safety Kenny Easley

Safety Deron Cherry

Safety Joey Browner

Safety Nolan Cromwell

...Redskins aren't the only ones being snubbed, but 3 out of the 7 offensive players who haven't made the Hall are Redskins. :doh:

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I think you missed the point here. The 80's All Decade Team was named BY the HOF Selection Committee. They can name Monk to this team, but not to the HOF?

Stop the world, I wanna get off.

IM so sorry that i didn't read that.. i always thought the process was done by the actual NFL players

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Yeah, I was looking at that a few days ago:

Offense

Wide Receiver Jerry Rice (HOF eligible in 2010)

Wide Receiver Steve Largent (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver James Lofton (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver Art Monk

Tight End Kellen Winslow (Hall of Fame)

Tight End Ozzie Newsome (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Anthony Munoz (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Jim Covert

Tackle Gary Zimmerman

Tackle Joe Jacoby

Guard John Hannah (Hall of Fame)

Guard Russ Grimm

Guard Bill Fralic

Guard Mike Munchak (Hall of Fame)

Center Dwight Stephenson (Hall of Fame)

Center Mike Webster (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Joe Montana (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Dan Fouts (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Walter Payton (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Eric Dickerson (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Roger Craig

Running Back John Riggins (Hall of Fame)

I thought Roger Craig was in the Hall of Fame? He certainly should be. Sorry to take away from your point there haha, but I thought Craig was in, not 100% sure though.

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I think you missed the point here. The 80's All Decade Team was named BY the HOF Selection Committee. They can name Monk to this team, but not to the HOF?

Stop the world, I wanna get off.

Of course almost the entire committee has turned over since 1990. Dr. Z may have been on there, but not Peter King or Len Pasquarelli or Cliff Christl or Rick Gosselin or Ron Borges.
I thought Roger Craig was in the Hall of Fame? He certainly should be. Sorry to take away from your point there haha, but I thought Craig was in, not 100% sure though.

I don't think Craig has ever even been a finalist. Let me add some detail for the offensive players:

Wide Receiver Jerry Rice (HOF eligible in 2010)

Wide Receiver Steve Largent (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver James Lofton (Hall of Fame)

Wide Receiver Art Monk (7-time HOF finalist)

Tight End Kellen Winslow (Hall of Fame)

Tight End Ozzie Newsome (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Anthony Munoz (Hall of Fame)

Tackle Jim Covert (never a finalist)

Tackle Gary Zimmerman (4-time HOF finalist)

Tackle Joe Jacoby (never a finalist)

Guard John Hannah (Hall of Fame)

Guard Russ Grimm (3-time HOF finalist)

Guard Bill Fralic (never a finalist)

Guard Mike Munchak (Hall of Fame)

Center Dwight Stephenson (Hall of Fame)

Center Mike Webster (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Joe Montana (Hall of Fame)

Quarterback Dan Fouts (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Walter Payton (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Eric Dickerson (Hall of Fame)

Running Back Roger Craig (never a finalist)

Running Back John Riggins (Hall of Fame)

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/YearlyFinalists.jsp

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the problem is that the HOF selectors who voted the all-decade team of the 1980's are in all probability a largely different group than is currently considering candidates.

there does seem to be a inherent bias of the current selection committee against the Redskins and Giants of the 1980's in favor of other teams.

other than SF, the Redskins and Giants were the most consistent winners in the NFL for 10 years and yet when it comes to voting in individual players teams like the Broncos, Bengals and Dolphins have as many players in.

forget for a moment that these teams with these 'great' players were crushed on the field by the same aforementioned NFC East contenders :laugh:

the most dubious vote in was James Lofton.

here is a guy that spent most of the decade in Green Bay on a losing team that threw the ball 45-50 times a game. he put up a lot of stats because there was no clear option as the #2 receiver and there was no franchise running back to soak up the carries.

opposing teams allowed Lofton to catch his 5 or 6 passes and still coasted to 10 point wins over the Packers.

are those more valuable stats than a guy like Monk put up, who caught those passes in tight NFC East games against winners like the Giants or against the 49ers for division or conference home field advantage?

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My thoughts exactly, something does not smell right here

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Wow... that is eye opening... 1st since I wasn't around, were defenses that bad or is there some kind of Offensive Bias when it comes to the HOF?

For Offense there was 14/22 in the hall with JR going in 1st ballot which leaves 15/22... 7 people passed up

For defense there was 12/24 with Bruce Smith likely going in too therefore 13/24... 11 people passed up...

I'm not trying to bash the HOF voters but could someone explain this to me?

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yeah I guess I can understand them a little. Gibbs had won 2 super bowls at that time but both were during strike years and all that garbage. Noll's Steelers really weren't that great in the 80's though. Who knows...:rolleyes:

i dont get it.

noll was 77-75 in the 80's- playoff record of 2-4.

gibbs was 91-45. playoff record 11-3.

not even close.

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Honestly, I cant even deal with it anymore. Everytime I think about it I curse up a storm. And I didnt even SEE the man play during his prime, though I have done research on his career. But yeah, I dont think about it anymore cause it angers me so.

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