Joncevensen Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 When the season ended Adams was the senior DE that was the premier DL in the draft. And the obvious pick for us. Now all of a sudden, everyone seems so focused on Anderson, the new obvious pick for us. Oh, and occasionally Branch gets thrown in, but that talk died down about a week ago. Why the sudden change? they haven't played any more games. I haven't watched enough tape to draw my own conclusions. So I'm soliciting everyone else's. Is it because Anderson is a junior while Adams is a senior? And while that extra year could make a long term in Anderson's favor, in the short term wouldn't it make Adams more polished for the Super Bowl run Gibbs will want to make the next two years? Feedback would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 the fact anderson played in the SEC where more NFL talent now resides.. anderson is like a jason taylor type/julius pepper.. the guy can play both the run and pass effectively and would work great in a GW scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 When the season ended Adams was the senior DE that was the premier DL in the draft. And the obvious pick for us.Now all of a sudden, everyone seems so focused on Anderson, the new obvious pick for us. Oh, and occasionally Branch gets thrown in, but that talk died down about a week ago. Why the sudden change? they haven't played any more games. I haven't watched enough tape to draw my own conclusions. So I'm soliciting everyone else's. Is it because Anderson is a junior while Adams is a senior? And while that extra year could make a long term in Anderson's favor, in the short term wouldn't it make Adams more polished for the Super Bowl run Gibbs will want to make the next two years? Feedback would be appreciated. The big reason is the Gains is more a "tweaner" guy in some people opinion, and does not play the run well. Also, he is about he same size as A.Carter and we already have a pass rushing specialist. Anderson is bigger at 280 and has room to get a little larger without loosing much speed. He is also good against the run (19 1/2 tackles for loss, 2nd in the SEC) and looks to be a more complete player. I think that is pretty much the feeling that people wanting Anderson over Gaines have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 If Blache can get great play out of Golston, a 6th rounder considered damaged goods by many, then I'm thrilled at what he could do with a blue-chip talent like Anderson or even Adams or Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidernat Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 The 'sudden' change in what you hear appears to be influenced by the way Branch played in the Rose Bowl, by the way the SEC teams flexed their superiorty over the rest of the conferences and by the fact Anderson declared for the draft. Prior to this declaration it was moot to speak about drafting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the krabber Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 and why does it matter that he comes from the SEC? because SEC > any other conference in college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeronimobrat Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 the fact anderson played in the SEC where more NFL talent now resides.. anderson is like a jason taylor type/julius pepper.. the guy can play both the run and pass effectively and would work great in a GW scheme Discussion now closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Adams is too small more of a pure pass rush kind of guy, at 260 is a little to small for what most of us want which is a guy who can play both the pass and the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 While Adams might be the better procpect, it seems as though Anderson would be the better fit for us. Adams is purely a pass rusher, and often passes on defending the un(Dwight freeney anyone)? While it has been said that Anderson is great in rush D, and a freak in pass rush(10.5 sacks i believe) I just feel like Anderson is more of a prototypical DE, and better fits our system. Also, Adams is a LOT like Carter on the other side of our line. I wouldnt really want to see the exact same player starting twice on our line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 and why does it matter that he comes from the SEC?because SEC > any other conference in college football. the talent in the SEC is just flat out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 The reason more people are talking about Jamaal Anderson is because it was a suprise that he even declared for the draft. Also he seems an ideal fit at LDE across Carter. It'll be interesting to see if Gaines Adams can add some more bulk to his frame. If he can come in at around 270 he'd be hard to pass on. He's not nearly bad on the run as most people here claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Who are we least likely to pick? Pick that guy and when we don't pick him so you get to B&M about it. When the season plays out, there is even a probability you get to gloat. Seems that's what most of the people here like to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 the fact anderson played in the SEC where more NFL talent now resides.. anderson is like a jason taylor type/julius pepper.. the guy can play both the run and pass effectively and would work great in a GW scheme Yea he would, but so would Branch. Gaines kinda fell off a long time ago. I guess alot of ppl think he's gonna have a Mario Williams like first year. We want immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 im in favor or branch or anderson.. ive never seen anderson play but i have heard too many good things from scouts and mel kiper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Branch is my top guy as he is a defensive tackle, but if we are stuck going DE then there is one reason Anderson is the guy at 6: he can stop the run. Adams is said to be a pure pass-rusher and is a worse run-stopper than Daniels. The last thing this defense needs is another weak link in run support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 In my opinion all three are going to be good NFL players. I wouldnt be mad with any of the three. Adams and Anderson are both upgrades to what we have and Branch if nothing else, could free up Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 People are high on both of these guys right now but who knows where they will be rated come draft day. Either one of them would be a welcome addition. I can see how Branch would instantly improve our slagging run defense and allow our LBs to make more plays. I also see that he has the ability to collapse the pocket and draw double teams that would make our ends better pass rushers. I can see how Branch would add much needed youth and atheleticism to our defensive end position. He's a complete DE that can rush the passer and play well against the run. I wouldn't flinch at either one of these guys being drafted with the #6 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Because Anderson declared for the draft. He hadn't before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I was never interested in Adams - he has bust written all over him. I wanted Branch because Branch had the ability to stop the run and disturb the pocket, which I felt was more important than getting a small pass-rusher that can't defend the run. But, our biggest need is at DE, and Anderson has a much better reputation against run/pass than Adams does. So, with the news that Anderson is going into the draft, that vaults him to the #1 spot for the skins as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line is that we have a very good chance of landing Anderson given the teams ahead of us and their needs, and if we don't, then Branch is guaranteed to be there. We really shouldn't be looking at Adams at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Murphaaay Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Discussion now closed! Actually it is inaccurate to speak of Jason Taylor and Jamaal Anderson in the same light, much less Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers (6'7, 283) and Jamaal Anderson (6'6, 280) are not or never were viewed as tweeners, which is basically a player, due to questionable size requirements is seen in-between 2 positions...in this case DE/LB. Jason Taylor is a tweener (6'6, 250), as he isn't that good against the run, but is excellent pass rusher and has compensated as a 3 down lineman due to his quickness, speed and athleticism. Anderson is viewed as is Peppers is, a player who can play the run and pass equally well. Julius Peppers however, has more freakish athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Lloyd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Easy, Anderson can play both the run and the pass very well, Adams can only pass rush. Another key point is Anderson played in the SEC, which is by far the best conference in the NCAA this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Because Anderson declared for the draft. He hadn't before. That's probably the biggest reason. Before, the debate was Branch vs. Adams. Now it's Anderson vs. Branch. Don't be fooled by Branch's showing in the Rose Bowl. USC threw often on first down and John David Booty did a bit of rolling out and had a lot of pass plays off of three-step drops. That's not a situation a DT will excel in. Instead take a look at USC's ground game. The had 23 carries for 48 yards. That's something else Branch brings to the table. I'd be happy with either guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Actually it is inaccurate to speak of Jason Taylor and Jamaal Anderson in the same light, much less Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers (6'7, 283) and Jamaal Anderson (6'6, 280) are not or never were viewed as tweeners, which is basically a player, due to questionable size requirements is seen in-between 2 positions...in this case DE/LB. Jason Taylor is a tweener (6'6, 250), as he isn't that good against the run, but is excellent pass rusher and has compensated as a 3 down lineman due to his quickness, speed and athleticism. Anderson is viewed as is Peppers is, a player who can play the run and pass equally well. Julius Peppers however, has more freakish athleticism. I dont think any DE should be really compared to Peppers till he comes out and does it in the NFL. That being said, he came into college as a pretty highly regarded WR. Now playing DE. That is pretty freakish atheticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Andersen looks like a Peppers/Strahan love child he's an athletic beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Gaines Adams = Courtney Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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