Eagle091 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 r. williams has made 3 of them tonight and none called. it is blatent, not even close. wtf refs. he is gonna hurt somebody with that cheap ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 That is a good question. The rule is crap to begin with. Maybe the refs are starting to realize it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 r. williams has made 3 of them tonight and none called. it is blatent, not even close. wtf refs. he is gonna hurt somebody with that cheap ****. Roy Williams has always been above the law when it comes to penalties. Strange how the penalty that was instituted based on his poor tackling technique has never, ever been called on him. Not once in 2 seasons kiddies. What a f'n joke. He pulled this twice tonight and against Portis in Week 2. But watch Terry Glenn get injured on it and we'll be hearing from Boys fans how cheap the move is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen the penalty called on anyone...I don't think it has anything to do with favoritism toward the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morbo Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen the penalty called on anyone...I don't think it has anything to do with favoritism toward the Cowboys. I forget who it was on defense, but I remember it being called on us. I was really upset too, because I think we were one of maybe three teams they called it on that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueinBuf Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I think the refs did a real ****ty job tonight overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The officials never call the horse collar penalty, why even have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I think the refs did a real ****ty job tonight overall. I agree. They also never seem to call TO for pushing off EVER SINGLE TIME HE SCORES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The officials never call the horse collar penalty, why even have it? Only incase T.O. is tackled from the collar. It figures that the rule was created because he got hurt from a tackle like that by Roy Williams. Now they're teammates, T.O. can't ever be hurt by that again. So no need to call it. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads. Get a better TV so you can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Roy "Cheapshot" Williams always has his "Free Horse Collar" and "Spear With Helmet" union cards. But the league, and the media, are too busy tossing his salad to ever see him for what he is. The most consistent cheapshot artist in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads.Get a better TV so you can see it. I wasnt talking about todays game, I mean in general that rule is not enforced like it should be. All around the NFL, not just Roy Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads.Get a better TV so you can see it. The rule was changed in the offseason to include jersey. Get a better brain so you can see it. http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/556118.html • All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Previously, the “horse-collar” tackle rule did not include the back of the shoulder pads or jersey. This increases the scope of the rule. Penalty: Loss of 15 yards. Reason for the change: Player safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The rule was changed in the offseason to include jersey. Get a better brain so you can see it. http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/556118.html • All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Previously, the “horse-collar” tackle rule did not include the back of the shoulder pads or jersey. This increases the scope of the rule. Penalty: Loss of 15 yards. Reason for the change: Player safety. I hadn't heard of this change, thanks for posting. It should have been called. One would think the refs would have quick flags for tackles that even closely resemble a horse collar against the man for which the rule was created. Don't be surprised if later in the week the NFL announces a fine on Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads.Get a better TV so you can see it. The rule was changed in the last offseason to include pulling that area by the jersey as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs_pink Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The rule was changed in the offseason to include jersey. Get a better brain so you can see it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads.Get a better TV so you can see it. The rule was changed in the offseason to include jersey. Get a better brain so you can see it. http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/556118.html Who's *****? Raub's *****! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles78 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen the penalty called on anyone...I don't think it has anything to do with favoritism toward the Cowboys.It's been called on an Eagles player this year. Can't remember who, might have been Matt McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 McCoy got called for horsecollaring Reggie Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 It meant that you can't pull down from the top of the jersy where the neckhole is. The rule does not include "any" part of the jersey. Get a better brain so you can understand. The rule was changed in the offseason to include jersey. Get a better brain so you can see it. http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/556118.html • All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Previously, the “horse-collar” tackle rule did not include the back of the shoulder pads or jersey. This increases the scope of the rule. Penalty: Loss of 15 yards. Reason for the change: Player safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 It meant that you can't pull down from the top of the jersy where the neckhole is. The rule does not include "any" part of the jersey.Get a better brain so you can understand. When he tackled Barber he had the back of the neck hole. If you couldn't see that maybe it's time to trade in that 13inch black and white TV. In the meantime, keep trying to cover your tracks with lame comebacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsterp Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 When he tackled Barber he had the back of the neck hole. If you couldn't see that maybe it's time to trade in that 13inch black and white TV. In the meantime, keep trying to cover your tracks with lame comebacks. I agree with you. Roy not only had Barber by the neck-hole of the jersey, but he also immediately pulled down and dug into the turf and steer wrestled him down. I watched very carefully a number of times (in HD) and it was a horse collar. Williams is a dirty player, always trying to catch up from behind. He will not change unless the penalty is called with some consistency. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 None of them were horsecollars. Roy had jersey, not shoulderpads.Get a better TV so you can see it. I thought the tackle on Tiki was a jersey tackle, I didn't notice the others. I've never seen the penalty called since they instituted it. I've seen some horse collar grabbing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueinBuf Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 After thinking about this last night, I think the refs might have been trying to make it up to the cowboys for the whole roy/ref collision on the first drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 When he tackled Barber he had the back of the neck hole. If you couldn't see that maybe it's time to trade in that 13inch black and white TV. In the meantime, keep trying to cover your tracks with lame comebacks. 100" screen with an HD projector. I think its fair to say i had a pretty good view of it. 5 refs out there and none of them saw it. But you did. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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