herrmag Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 You can pretty much blame the kids' parents for this. Better yet, blame the litigation-happy society in which we live for this type of mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 You can pretty much blame the kids' parents for this. Better yet, blame the litigation-happy society in which we live for this type of mentality. Sir, you have impugned my integrity. You will be getting a letter from my lawyers. See you in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Memo to the illiterates: read the article before you comment.It's not "wussy liberals" who are to blame, it's the (ambulance-chasing) lawyers. This country has a disturbing shortage of people willing to stand up for the notion of personal responsibility. If you get hurt playing tag or two-hand touch, it's probably your own fault. This ban sends the entirely wrong message to kids of "if something bad happens, it's someone else's fault, not yours." Those ambulance-chasing lawyers vote democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriolesfan93p Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Memo to the illiterates: read the article before you comment.It's not "wussy liberals" who are to blame, it's the (ambulance-chasing) lawyers. This country has a disturbing shortage of people willing to stand up for the notion of personal responsibility. If you get hurt playing tag or two-hand touch, it's probably your own fault. This ban sends the entirely wrong message to kids of "if something bad happens, it's someone else's fault, not yours." The whole idea of someone not being responsible for their own actions is something that is at the root of most liberal political possitions. Social Security, Wellfare, Heck even abortion.... Most liberal possitions stem from the idea that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Either someone else is at fault or someone else should have to suffer so that you don't have to take the consequences of your own actions... This is the reason that most conservatives automatically assume that this was done by liberals. Accept it or not but taking responsibility for your actions is usually an idea behind conservative views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Those ambulance-chasing lawyers vote democrat. Trust me when I tell you that the legal profession is filled with mostly Republicans. There's a few of us Dems floating around, but not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Trust me when I tell you that the legal profession is filled with mostly Republicans. There's a few of us Dems floating around, but not many. Sorry but I don't trust you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Haha, I disappeared only cause I was banned for 30 days for making fun of a certain poster.I don't like Bush, but I definitely don't like Liberals and won't vote for one, although I've come to get a better understanding on some of their viewpoints. Not all liberals are wussies, Chom, but ones who ban games like "Tag" and "Dodgeball" are. Can't hurt any of the wittle kids feeeewwwwiiiiinnnggggssss, now could we? I agree with Sarge, they're just trying to make little boys into little girls. There's a book that came out a couple years ago that deals with this subject...Can't remember the name of it, but it was very good. Sorry to insult the utopia of MA, but this is pretty rediculous. Maybe if you knew anything, you would know that Andover Mass is a republican leaning town, with very wealthy individuals. . . but that makes your argument so less palatable for the frenzied wolves now huh? Their enrollment has more democrats, but the independents in Massachusetts are largely republican voters, which is how we've had a republican governer for the past 16 years. . .but don't let the facts get in the way of taking a swipe at my state or liberals in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURGUNDYBLEEDER Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Maybe if you knew anything, you would know that Andover Mass is a republican leaning town, with very wealthy individuals. . . but that makes your argument so less palatable for the frenzied wolves now huh? Their enrollment has more democrats, but the independents in Massachusetts are largely republican voters, which is how we've had a republican governer for the past 16 years. . .but don't let the facts get in the way of taking a swipe at my state or liberals in general. The only reason I am jumping in the middle of the discussion between the two of you is because I take exception to your above assumption that all Republicans are conservative. The term "convservative" and "republican" are not synonymous, especially not in the context of Massachusetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Sorry but I don't trust you. Well, I don't trust any political party that believes that the federal government should only practice its enumerated powers, but believes that restricting a woman's right to an abortion is among those powers. So we'll call it even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The whole idea of someone not being responsible for their own actions is something that is at the root of most liberal political possitions. Social Security, Wellfare, Heck even abortion.... Most liberal possitions stem from the idea that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Either someone else is at fault or someone else should have to suffer so that you don't have to take the consequences of your own actions... This is the reason that most conservatives automatically assume that this was done by liberals. Accept it or not but taking responsibility for your actions is usually an idea behind conservative views. That is not true. In fact, especially Traditional Liberalism, the position is "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." It is the individual freedom to pursue one's goals - this has nothing to do "no responsibility for their actions." Read further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism Everything you mentioned is more so about Big Government and even elements of socialism, which is supported by both parties, including Neo-Liberalism and some Neo-Cons as well. What is funny about your statement is the last sentence: "Accept it or not but taking responsibility for your actions is usually an idea behind conservative views." The idea of responsibility from modern conservative leaders appears to be complete absent. I see many examples of such leaders need to take responsbility for mistakes, for their actions, but their supporters do not appear have this need for responsiblity. It is hypocritical and really makes the statement about "personal responsibility" to ring hollow. (And reminds me of Rush Limbaugh of making this statement often, and when it came time for his "personal responsibility," he tried to quickly sidestep that...) Trust me - it isn't just the supposed "Right" that has this issue, too...Taking personal responsibility is probably one of the greatest challenges in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The whole idea of someone not being responsible for their own actions is something that is at the root of most liberal political possitions. Social Security, Wellfare, Heck even abortion.... Most liberal possitions stem from the idea that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Either someone else is at fault or someone else should have to suffer so that you don't have to take the consequences of your own actions... This is the reason that most conservatives automatically assume that this was done by liberals. Accept it or not but taking responsibility for your actions is usually an idea behind conservative views. Funny, I don;t know how you can say this with a straight face. . . Conservatives are the party of. . . "Who knew they's fly planes into buildings" "It was a historical document" "nobody thought the levees would break" "I was an alcoholic" "It was the pages fault" "It was Clinton's fault" "it was the liberals fault" It is funny how you claim it is a conservative "value" yet there isn't a single conservative who is even remotely responsible for anything that went wrong in Iraq, with Katrina, with North Korea, with Iran, with Al Qaeda etc. etc. If conservatives ARE the party of responsibility, then how come they don't hold themselves accountable for THEIR actions? It is easy to say anything to get a rise out of people, this thread serves as a great example, it is hard to stand for your beliefs though, and the republicans have failed miserably on all accounts. . . In essence, they really are not the accountable party huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The only reason I am jumping in the middle of the discussion between the two of you is because I take exception to your above assumption that all Republicans are conservative. The term "convservative" and "republican" are not synonymous, especially not in the context of Massachusetts. Please elaborate. . . we are a conservative state on fiscal policies, but socially liberal, it is why I am proud to be from Massachusetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Well, I don't trust any political party that believes that the federal government should only practice its enumerated powers, but believes that restricting a woman's right to an abortion is among those powers.So we'll call it even. So you like a party that wants to expand federal powers even more. Well at least you're honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 So you like a party that wants to expand federal powers even more. Well at least you're honest. Hardly. But c'mon, lets have some consistency at least... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Does anybody even remember the fact that we're supposed to be discussing some idiotic, wussy, pansy wastes not allowing their kids to play tag. Instead of degenerating into a my liberal dick is bigger than your conservative dick debate.... yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hardly. But c'mon, lets have some consistency at least... lol exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Does anybody even remember the fact that we're supposed to be discussing some idiotic, wussy, pansy wastes not allowing their kids to play tag. Instead of degenerating into a my liberal dick is bigger than your conservative dick debate.... yet again. You know, it's kind of like when I was a kid and we would play tag, or touch football, or soccer, or any game really that involved some kind of chasing, but if you played long enough the game would devolve into some form of smear the queer or just trying to tackle the guy with the ball. No matter how organized we start out, at the end it's just a big pile of kids wrestling on a field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 No matter how organized we start out, at the end it's just a big pile of kids wrestling on a field. And Foley was a happy man :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 You know, it's kind of like when I was a kid and we would play tag, or touch football, or soccer, or any game really that involved some kind of chasing, but if you played long enough the game would devolve into some form of smear the queer or just trying to tackle the guy with the ball. No matter how organized we start out, at the end it's just a big pile of kids wrestling on a field. LOL. Too true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raperry2 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 this is why i will never even take a vacation or step over the mason-dixon line. not the culture i want to live in. no offense to all of you that live up there, ive met some cool yanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 when I was in elementary school we were playing tag on a field trip in Gettysburg and I caught the fastest kid in our grade from behind in an all out sprint and I was anointed the new speed king. Is there something wrong with that? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Fan in Ma Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I live in Mass and I find this totally lame but in all honesty this does not shock me at all. Everyone is so worried about being sued they don't realize that the kids really lose. It's a shame. P.S. Attleboro sucks anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 As a Physical Education teacher certification major, I have to say this news depresses me. I'm not allowed to teach Dodgeball as it "singles out students that are less athletic or popular and exposes them to being hit with a ball mercilessly, and also allows for them to be in the spotlight where they may be made fun of... And on top of that the game doesn't maximize participation"... I'm not allowed to teach relay races because "They put the student's in a spotlight and if they lose they feel like it's their fault" I'm not allowed to teach tag now for God knows what reason... Can I have freakin' somethin to be able to teach my students when I get out into the field? For the love of all that's holy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 As a Physical Education teacher certification major, I have to say this news depresses me. I'm not allowed to teach Dodgeball as it "singles out students that are less athletic or popular and exposes them to being hit with a ball mercilessly, and also allows for them to be in the spotlight where they may be made fun of... And on top of that the game doesn't maximize participation"...I'm not allowed to teach relay races because "They put the student's in a spotlight and if they lose they feel like it's their fault" I'm not allowed to teach tag now for God knows what reason... Can I have freakin' somethin to be able to teach my students when I get out into the field? For the love of all that's holy! the best always bend the rules, think of what's best for the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Parents are the problem. Their kid gets hurt and they freak out and demand all sorts of crap. It's always someone elses fault. Ding ding ding.... Stupid lawsuits are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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