skins4eva Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Well, folks--he actually answered my question, but he split the baby Solomon style. This is my question btw, kinda cool. Cliff (McLean, VA): KC--love your stuff. I'm in a big argument with a cowboys fan about who is better--Sean Taylor or Roy Williams...could you answer it for us? And which do you think will have the better season? Thanks! KC Joyner: (4:15 PM ET ) I am not trying to split the difference but the metrics show Taylor is better at coverage and Williams is better at run support. They play different positions as well, so that makes an apples/apples comparison a bit harder. Dan (DC): What do your metrics say about the Skins O-Line? KC Joyner: (5:28 PM ET ) The metrics show that the Skins had four dominant offensive linemen last year. Chris Samuels topped the 92% success rate and Derrick Dockery wasn't far behind him. The Redskins have a great group of blockers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cliff (McLean, VA): Speaking of old O-lineman, shouldn't some of the HOGS be in the HOF? KC Joyner: (5:29 PM ET ) Let's end this up on a high note! I agree that the Hogs O line should have HOFer. They should start with Russ Grimm and go from there. Thanks to everyone for chatting today. See you all next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yes, but Taylor isn't a liability in run support, while Williams is a liability in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yes, but Taylor isn't a liability in run support, while Williams is a liability in coverage. Game, set, match, close thread! :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 the way he answered it you know he didnt want to get in the middle of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Exactly--very evasive--he doesn't want to piss off potential purchasers of his book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 either way we got AA to help us with the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 This is pretty funny: Jeremy (nyc): I'm the one who asked the original SAFETIES question and you are all wrong - SEAN TAYLOR IS GOD. KC Joyner: (5:00 PM ET ) I answer an opinion question and now it turns into a religious debate as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ask Tatum Bell, Priest Holmes, or Lorenzo Neal how Taylor is at run support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysForLife Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 See, it's impossible to compare them. Let's just save ourselves years of our lives and just admit that BOTH of these players are very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 except that roy williams isnt very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 It's not an apples/apples comparison, though. Well maybe a green apples vs red apples...but definitley not same color apples. Different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 you know what eles would be better at run support, a DT playing saftey, If Taylor played the run on every play like williams, Taylor would be better at run support, be he does both sucessfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yes, but Taylor isn't a liability in run support, while Williams is a liability in coverage. He rated Williams 14th in passing yardage giving up by a safety wonder how well taylor rates in run support.... I can't believe it is that low, he makes so many tackles at the LOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 That says it all right there. I don't have the slightest worry about ST's ability to play the run. He's a sure tackler and he's definitely not getting run over by any RB or FB for that matter. He is not by any stretch of any imagination even close to a liability in the run dept. And of course this is same player who can cover like a corner. If Williams and Sean were both put into a supplemental draft and you had the first pick, who do you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Jeremy (nyc): Most threatening safety in the league: Sean Taylor or Roy Williams???? Matt Williamson: Taylor. What a stud. Via Espn Insider http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=12680 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ask Tatum Bell, Willie Parker, or J.J. Arrington about how Sean Taylor is in run support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sowers Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 you know what eles would be better at run support, a DT playing saftey, If Taylor played the run on every play like williams, Taylor would be better at run support, be he does both sucessfully. Ummm are you serious? Dumb idea, plus once a rb gets that far into the secondary he would break the poor dts ankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ummm are you serious? Dumb idea, plus once a rb gets that far into the secondary he would break the poor dts ankles. You misunderstood the point he was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishOrange15 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 You misunderstood the point he was making. I wish Roy just got to play the run all of the time. By the halfway point of last season he was practically playing FS since Pile/Davis were liabilities in deep coverage. YAKUZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Let's put it this way. If Roy were to switch to FS and Taylor were to switch to SS, who would make the better transition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Let's put it this way. If Roy were to switch to FS and Taylor were to switch to SS, who would make the better transition?Roy would make a great transition...to second string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Let's put it this way. If Roy were to switch to FS and Taylor were to switch to SS, who would make the better transition? Considering Roy has played FS a couple of years ago..... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Dan (DC): What do your metrics say about the Skins O-Line? KC Joyner: (5:28 PM ET ) The metrics show that the Skins had four dominant offensive linemen last year. Chris Samuels topped the 92% success rate and Derrick Dockery wasn't far behind him. The Redskins have a great group of blockers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cliff (McLean, VA): Speaking of old O-lineman, shouldn't some of the HOGS be in the HOF? KC Joyner: (5:29 PM ET ) Let's end this up on a high note! I agree that the Hogs O line should have HOFer. They should start with Russ Grimm and go from there. Thanks to everyone for chatting today. See you all next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Considering Roy has played FS a couple of years ago..... :doh: Yeah, and how did he do? :laugh: Was Roy anywhere close to Sean's level? Would you think that Taylor couldn't do everything that Roy does as a SS and do it better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yeah, and how did he do? :laugh:Was Roy anywhere close to Sean's level? Would you think that Taylor couldn't do everything that Roy does as a SS and do it better? Sorry dude... I don't live in your fantasy world where Sean Taylor is superman. Has not shown me that. It takes more than running back a couple of fumbles to be considered great. Oh, and he made the pro bowl in 04'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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