nhat8121 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 how does it work? is he going to be a free agent next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 The only thing I do not like about this deal is once again we are giving up picks and on top of it we are paying more for a WR then we are getting in return for Ramsey, that is strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 What exactly WERE your expectations at around this time last year? Coming off a 6-10 season with problems at QB and elsewhere, most Skins fans on this board were just hoping to go 8-8, and if someone had told them that in the upcoming year the Skins would go 10-6, sweep the Cowboys and go two-deep into the playoffs, the most of the people here would have been ecstatic to the point of messing their shorts. So if your expectations were higher to the point of being disappointed by this last season, then I would suggest to you that you had unrealistically high expectations. To everyone else -- congrats on getting Lloyd, guys! You must see him quite a bit as a Hawks fan. He's quite a talent with nice potential if his head is screwed on straight, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wysknz1 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I am not completely sure if it will work out or not... i dont think anyone is... but some of you are losing focus on what we acquired here....we got a young tough receiver to take pressure off Moss... if this was the only receiver we had i would be scared to death... but we got him to be a #2 guy... i mean really he had what 800 yards last year in San Fran... thats good for a solid 1000 with us.... which would be leaps and bounds above what our other receivers provided this year... :applause:AGREED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Pretty much. Though it's more than just the record. It's how that record was accomplished that means as much as the record itself.For example... compare the '91-'92 Skins to the '01-'02 Patriots. Identical records, both teams had very similar stats through the season. But there were 2 MAJOR differences in my mind that would have made the 01-02 season inferior to the 91-92 season if both had been the Redskins.... a. The lack of a large number of "Name" players on the Patriots roster that year. b. The fact that the Redskins margin of victory in 91-92 was around 16 points per game. The Patriots averaged a paltry 6 points per victory in 01-02. I've seen the hybrid offspring of pretentiousness and idiocy before, but I had never seen it photographed during its mating ritual. Fascinating, even if it is only black & white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I've seen the hybrid offspring of pretentiousness and idiocy before, but I had never seen it photographed during its mating ritual. Fascinating, even if it is only black & white. ::snicker:: that was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Just got to www.blloyd.comThat has all the Brandon Lloyd information you will need...including some mad rhymes dropped by Blloyd himself... I visited there a couple months ago. One of several reasons I was sure he'd be staying in SF was he loved the place and had solid connections for his music all over the area. He was also in big demand for personal appearances in all the dance-clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest santana4prez Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Santana Moss & Brandon Lloyd = omg 2 big play wr in DC along with Portis and Cooley!!!! Joe Gibbs shows again why he is a Hall of Fame Head Coach.:applause: :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funguy1286 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 "Feisty blocker who will pester a linebacker and deliver a crunching crack block upfield …" This really makes me happy. Click link below for full repot http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/lloyd_brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 The best young WR out there IMO! Nice job team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live4Skins Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Best fortunes Lloyd and roll with the punches! Great to see you in Burgandy and Gold..again But these colors are much brighter as will your future stats here. Hoo-rahhh! Go SKINS 2006! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 one thing still confuses me about this trade. maybe someone who knows more about free agency can clear this up for me. lloyd was a restricted free agent, meaning any team wishing to sign him had to make an offer that the 49ers were unwilling to match and then give them a first round draft pick in return. the other option is what happened a trade can be worked out with lesser compensation in return. the thing that i dont understand is this is usually a sign and trade deal but the redskins have yet to come to contract terms with lloyd, if im not mistaken. does this mean he is still a restricted free agent and what happens if a contract cant be worked out. If another team offers him a contract do we get a first rounder from them? i cant imagine this is the case so anyone with knowledge of how this works please explain it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 So let me get this straight....Hypothetical: Say the Redskins would've beaten the Seahawks by three back in Jan. and advanced to the SuperBowl. Then,vs Pittsburgh, they win by a td. Since they never blew anyone out, you'd still be here talking negative about the team because they never averaged a 16 point advantage vs their opponents PLUS they didn't have the big sexy names on the roster?? Wow...what an attitude/ outlook. ...:doh: I wouldn't be jumping up and down and claiming we were the greatest team in the history of the league like many of the people here would be. I wouldn't be touting our Greatness and Dominance in the league. I would also be looking at the '05-'06 Redskins Championship team as the least impressive of the four we would have in such a hypothetical scenario. The reasonings behind it would be exactly as you've described... the lack of dominance on the field, the lack of margin of victory and the mediocre roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 What exactly WERE your expectations at around this time last year? Coming off a 6-10 season with problems at QB and elsewhere, most Skins fans on this board were just hoping to go 8-8, and if someone had told them that in the upcoming year the Skins would go 10-6, sweep the Cowboys and go two-deep into the playoffs, the most of the people here would have been ecstatic to the point of messing their shorts. So if your expectations were higher to the point of being disappointed by this last season, then I would suggest to you that you had unrealistically high expectations. What were my expectations going into the season.... What did I predict.... 3-13 record, Gibbs fired before Christmas. What are my EXPECTATIONS every year.... 16-0, Super Bowl, Dominant play every week. So far as I can see, Brandon Lloyd is not a serious upgrade over David Patten (who I hate) and I don't believe he's going to put us over the top and make us a Dominant team. Though he is going to take up cap space that could be used for real players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTalon Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 You must see him quite a bit as a Hawks fan. He's quite a talent with nice potential if his head is screwed on straight, no?He's the guy that made it close in our first meeting last year. I would have liked to see him sign with us, if that tells you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTalon Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 What were my expectations going into the season.... What did I predict.... 3-13 record, Gibbs fired before Christmas. What are my EXPECTATIONS every year.... 16-0, Super Bowl, Dominant play every week. So far as I can see, Brandon Lloyd is not a serious upgrade over David Patten (who I hate) and I don't believe he's going to put us over the top and make us a Dominant team. Though he is going to take up cap space that could be used for real players. I see now why you have that avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Now...all we need is a consistent QB. I say win the competition Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Very nice...We got Randel El and Lloyd with Santana Moss...Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Gut Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We now have a solid 3 WR. we are going to be unstopable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I liked Brandon Lloyd far better than Taylor Jacobs coming out of college. Was not a big fan of either the Jacobs or Dockery picks. Hoped they would work, but they didn't. I call this vindication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I liked Brandon Lloyd far better than Taylor Jacobs coming out of college. Was not a big fan of either the Jacobs or Dockery picks. Hoped they would work, but they didn't. I call this vindication. Dockery has worked out pretty well so far. He's actually shown improvement... unlike Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dockery has worked out pretty well so far. He's actually shown improvement... unlike Jacobs. I'll give you he at least has held down a starting spot. But he has just been ok, somewhat marginal really. I hope he cranks it up, but I am done waiting for it (just like with Jacobs, god that Jacobs pick was an idiot pick). But your right Dockery has been alright, but he does play next to a probowl LT. I'd just like to see more from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Lloyd has only a one year contract. If he doesn't sign an extension he becomes a FA after the season and the Skins gave up 2 picks for a one year rental. I'm surprised the trade wasn't made after the Skins and Lloyd agreed to an extension because right now Lloyd has all the leverage in negotiations and can ask for a lot more than El received which will no doubt disturb Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Lloyd has only a one year contract. If he doesn't sign an extension he becomes a FA after the season and the Skins gave up 2 picks for a one year rental. I'm surprised the trade wasn't made after the Skins and Lloyd agreed to an extension because right now Lloyd has all the leverage in negotiations and can ask for a lot more than El received which will no doubt disturb Moss. You sound alot like Linus sitting in the pumpkin patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Lloyd has only a one year contract. If he doesn't sign an extension he becomes a FA after the season and the Skins gave up 2 picks for a one year rental. I'm surprised the trade wasn't made after the Skins and Lloyd agreed to an extension because right now Lloyd has all the leverage in negotiations and can ask for a lot more than El received which will no doubt disturb Moss. :laugh: Sure keep dreaming. I know...........and maybe after Lloyd becomes a free agent next year.......the Eagles can sign him huh? :jerk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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