bubba9497 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 We have dozens of thread speculating which Free Agents the Skins will pursue, and what draftable players we'll be interested in come April. Everyone has determined what our needs are.... yet I have a feeling... that again Gibbs and staff have different (and accurate) ideas of what we need,... and come March & April we will be scratching our head yet again wondering who some of these guys are... or why we signed him?? Then we will see thread after thread by arm chair GM's stating they knew it all along.... :laugh: and Inmate will post some thread about Miss Cleo predicted this back in December :fortune: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-O-G Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 miss cleo robbed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Thats a mighty prediction there Bubba! I just may have to put this thread in my favorites and check back on it come September and see how you did :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sullivan Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I agree. Also, with the Redskins recently, the surprises have turned out to be very pleasant. I remember in 2003, when although we were 5-11 that year, much of the current team was built. I remember all the commentators saying that Randy Thomas would end up in Dallas or Tampa Bay, and that turned out to be wrong. Randy Thomas at Right Guard is perhaps our best offensive lineman, and his loss was a devastating blow to the team, and would have been more devastating if we didn't have the 43 year old Ray Brown to step in and replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 I agree. Also, with the Redskins recently, the surprises have turned out to be very pleasant. I remember in 2003, when although we were 5-11 that year, much of the current team was built. I remember all the commentators saying that Randy Thomas would end up in Dallas or Tampa Bay, and that turned out to be wrong.Randy Thomas at Right Guard is perhaps our best offensive lineman, and his loss was a devastating blow to the team, and would have been more devastating if we didn't have the 43 year old Ray Brown to step in and replace him. and the Moss (myself included) everyone talked about was Randy.... not Santanna Who woulld have guessed Casey Rabach was our big FA signing :laugh: besides Miss Cleo that is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I'm sure you are right on some level, Bubba. But I think it is a pretty safe assumption that we will target a Dlineman and Ramsey will be wearing a different uniform next year. But yes, I agree... there will be surprises. And that will be further confirmation, for me at least, that we have football people in charge in Washington, as oppposed to the fans (Snyder/Cerrato) who made personnel decisions in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butz65 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I agree - I think the Skins will pick up a wide receiver (currently at or under the radar) to fill the #2 spot. Similar to the trade to pick up Moss in return for Coles - remember how many "experts" said that the deal didn't make sense as Moss was not as good a receiver as Coles? I'm guessing they'll grab someone 3-4 years in (at the end of their rookie contract) who has some size - speed will be the primary factor. I also think the Skins will draft for depth or use some of this year's picks to grab restricted free agents. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I agree. Also, with the Redskins recently, the surprises have turned out to be very pleasant. I remember in 2003, when although we were 5-11 that year, much of the current team was built. I remember all the commentators saying that Randy Thomas would end up in Dallas or Tampa Bay, and that turned out to be wrong.Randy Thomas at Right Guard is perhaps our best offensive lineman, and his loss was a devastating blow to the team, and would have been more devastating if we didn't have the 43 year old Ray Brown to step in and replace him. You couldnt be more right. The loss of Randy Thomas is what stunted our offensive production at the end of the year. It virtually eliminated the outside running game, since most of our effective runs during the year were behind a pulling Randy Thomas. Sorry Samuels, Thomas is our OL stud. Oh, and Corey Raymer is garbage. He couldn't even sub for the 43-year old Brown, and Brown had to come back into the game because Raymer had given up 3 big plays. We need depth on our OL. Secondly, I will be the first to admit that I was a little flabbergasted when we spent millions of cap dollars to get rid of Coles. And it was hard to believe then that Santana Moss would become what he has- the single downfield threat on this team and a true superstar. So I apologize to Joe Gibbs, and I will never second-guess him again. Now that being said, I am convinced that Kyle vanden Bosch is 'the man' so get him, and that we should go WR, then OL and DB the rest of the draft. Walt Harris is and forever will be Toast, and he should be shipped out of town on a one-way ticket to the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I know exactly who they are targeting for FA, but cannot say at this point. I'll get back to you in June, and also next November to let you know whether the coaches were right or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 You couldnt be more right. The loss of Randy Thomas is what stunted our offensive production at the end of the year. It virtually eliminated the outside running game, since most of our effective runs during the year were behind a pulling Randy Thomas. Sorry Samuels, Thomas is our OL stud. Oh, and Corey Raymer is garbage. He couldn't even sub for the 43-year old Brown, and Brown had to come back into the game because Raymer had given up 3 big plays. We need depth on our OL.Secondly, I will be the first to admit that I was a little flabbergasted when we spent millions of cap dollars to get rid of Coles. And it was hard to believe then that Santana Moss would become what he has- the single downfield threat on this team and a true superstar. So I apologize to Joe Gibbs, and I will never second-guess him again. Now that being said, I am convinced that Kyle vanden Bosch is 'the man' so get him, and that we should go WR, then OL and DB the rest of the draft. Walt Harris is and forever will be Toast, and he should be shipped out of town on a one-way ticket to the CFL. O-line depth is certainly a glaring need right now. I'm a little wary of Vanden Bosch because he had 4 sacks and tons of injuries in his first 4 years. Who knows if he can repeat last year's performance. I think Walt gets a little too much blame at times, too. Sure he got beat this year but I wonder how healthy he was. He was a beast for the first 3-4 weeks and never seemed to be the same after he missed a couple games. In the first Cowboy game he played awesome, probably had the best game of anyone on our D. He led the team in tackles that game and got us off the field a few times with solid open field tackles on 3rd down. Then he misses the next couple and when he comes back, all of a sudden, he can't tackle anymore. It was really perplexing. I think we need to keep him for depth, though, but he shouldn't see much more than a nickel role. He just doesn't have the speed to keep up on deep throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I know exactly who they are targeting for FA, but cannot say at this point.I'll get back to you in June, and also next November to let you know whether the coaches were right or not. Well PM me and give me a heads up! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjumbo1971 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 agreed I'm done with the armchair GM thing...after seeing Gibbs keep Brunell...NOT one person can honestly that after the 2004 season they thought Brunell would have the year he did...just do your thing front office I trust you (but only under Gibbs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Whatever happens, I really don't think I'll be all that surprised. A need or two will be filled. We just don't know how Gibbs has prioritized those needs. We just see them from OUR point of view, hence all the predictions. The fun part is seeing who, besides Miss Cleo, comes the closest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Then we will see thread after thread by arm chair GM's stating they knew it all along.... :laugh: Not to mention that we will see all the "geniuses" coming out of the woodwork, saying Coach Gibbs is "crazy", "senile", "losing it", cause he didn't make the moves they wanted him to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 not a difficult prediction since the Redskins are competing with other teams for talent and the players themselves have preferences. If you mean that the positions targeted will be different from what we expect then that is a different matter. Either way - getting to the SB is the ONLY validating metric.....just ask the players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Not to mention that we will see all the "geniuses" coming out of the woodwork, saying Coah Gibbs is "crazy", "senile", "losing it", cause he didn't make the moves they wanted him to make. "Those people are the salt of the earth...you know, morons." ----------------------------Harvey Korman, Blazing Saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Did you see the Pro Bowl yesterday? I know it's a meaningless game, but vanden Bosch was a monster, pure and simple.:notworthy Toast, even when he is in position, does not turn his head. This leads to Toast being burnt, or called for pass intereference.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 You hit the nail on the head, Bubba. With the lack of top recieving options in free agency, those that do hit the market will be overpayed. I just have a feeling that we'll grab someone through a trade... someone we've all overlooked. The same names have come up over and over and over... Randle El, Koren Robinson, Brandon Lloyd, etc. etc. etc. The guy we sign won't be the obvious choice. That's why our front office get paid millions a year, and why we are simply fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeshta Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 and the Moss (myself included) everyone talked about was Randy.... not SantannaWho woulld have guessed Casey Rabach was our big FA signing :laugh: besides Miss Cleo that is.... Remember the NFL network fantasy football commercial where the patriots guy says "of the two Moss's, I'd take Santana. Honestly I would."? It was supposed to be a wildly inacturate statement, something so ill-advised as to be comical. In retrospect, it was like the polar opposite of the commercials they run where they show stupid preseason comments by fans. that patriots guy must have a line with Miss Cleo too! LOL! As far as the team's offseason moves, I think you are right that a lot of us will be surprised. I think the team probably sees the needs for the most part in a similar way to how we as fans see them. The difference between them and us is that they are more creative in the way that they think about fixing the problems. Many of us seem to focus entirely one getting a #2 wide receiver to go opposite Moss. I think the team may think of it a little differently. They may think about it as we need depth at WR, because nobody we putover there produced at all, even with Moss getting so much attention from opposing defenses. So their solution to the problem might not be just one guy. Especially if you consider the possibilty of an injury and what it would mean to the offense. Me personally, there are a few things that would not surprise me, but might surprise many others. For instance I would not be surprised to see us draft a cornerback high, or to see us pick up two or three wide receivers, or a DT. Will be interesting to see what they actually do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 umm... seeing as we expect so many surprises this year, i'll throw something out there. i think we'll end up with darren howard as our next DE. abraham doesn't seem likely cus he looks to be headed to the chargers, and wayne is supposedly getting tagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Not to mention that we will see all the "geniuses" coming out of the woodwork, saying Coah Gibbs is "crazy", "senile", "losing it", cause he didn't make the moves they wanted him to make. Then don't forget that after all the moves pan out, they'll be the first ones back cheerleading talking about what great moves they were. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I wouldn't mind a surprise move like... trading Ramsey and a pick to the Raiders for Jerry Porter. Or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I wouldn't mind a surprise move like... trading Ramsey and a pick to the Raiders for Jerry Porter. Or something along those lines. Or for Randy Moss and then all that talk of Moss, Moss, and Moss (Santana, Randy, and Sinorice) will be back up again. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Or for Randy Moss and then all that talk of Moss, Moss, and Moss (Santana, Randy, and Sinorice) will be back up again. :laugh: I wouldn't want Randy Moss though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out who the skins would pick up in free agency or in the draft I'm never right :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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