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Larry

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AdamB

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I actually, grudgingly liked that movie. I thought they made a lot of good decisions in that one.

I expected a bunch of CGI fight scenes with powered combat armor, as though people thought that was the most important part of the story.

Instead, they pretty much abandoned that entire aspect of the book, and left most of the character things (which were the important parts of the story) in place.

I still don't think it was as good as the book, but the filmmaker is limited as to things he can put in a film.

I expected "stink", but what I feel I got was "Great book, better than average movie".

The lack of the powersuits did not really bother me all that much (the costume designers for their battle armor needs to be shot tho, the design they used was horrid in the movie), but the makers of the film saying the could not afford to have the suits due to money then spending money on those lame flying bugs and farting beetles did irk me.

My main problem with it is that I do not feel they included really ANY of the personal stuff from the book, at least as it was intended, and added a bunch of personal crap that was not needed. There was no love story in the book other than Rico's crush on Ibieniz (the character of Dizzy, who is male, has no dialogue and dies in like the first 4 pages). The Dizzy/Rico love story was pretty much there just so there could be a sex scene in a warzone, since Verhoeven seems unable to make a US film without having a female main character that hops into bed with someone. The fact the sex scene is in a warzone just makes it just ignorant.

Verhoeven felt the book, which he did not even finish, was pro-facism and re-wrote the script as such, which is laughable when you realize Heinlein was, at the best of times could be considered a Libertarian, and usually was very close to being an anarachist (as in a community/group deciding how they will run themselves, not a traditional governmental body - think old west-type). The pro-service theme of the book (not necessarily military service) instead gets warped into some gestapo-like propaganda vision of the military. As far as Rico finidng himself, Verhoeven might have done a better job pulling that off if he had not cast Casper Van Dien as Rico, who is terrible.

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Ghost of

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This thread from three years ago has my opinion of the movie in it. Hasn't changed since.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9802&highlight=beauty

That opinion illustrates why you really are a moderate. You gave many of the same reasons I've seen conservatives/rightists give for disliking that movie.

I found the movie watchable, but I also knew that it was yet another Hollywood bash of the people certain among the elites despise so much. Especially artists who believe suburbia (talked to a girl like this not too long ago) or being white or having a family is some kind of death sentence

It's like watching Murder in the First and knowing that they completely fictionalized the real account, emptied it of its potential meaning as a true story and that the man was guilty as sin but it's still an OK movie.

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SoulKatcher

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Without question for me it was AI. Not even a close second out there.

I was wondering if I was going to be the only one who said AI. Horrible, dragging, depressing movie. I only stuck around waiting for it to get better. I would have never guessed Steven Spielberg was the director. And, you're right...there isn't any other movie that I disliked nearly as much.

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gbrittain

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I was wondering if I was going to be the only one who said AI. Horrible, dragging, depressing movie. I only stuck around waiting for it to get better. I would have never guessed Steven Spielberg was the director. And, you're right...there isn't any other movie that I disliked nearly as much.

Other than it just being a horrible movie, I got really tired of thinking this is the time the movie is really going to end...

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Mr. Nostril

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I understand your criticicism of American Beauty, Henry, but I think you're being a little harsh. My opinion on American Beauty is actually pretty middling, and all the problems you pointed out are things I thought of before.

It just seems that I've seen movies that are even worse from a moral standpoint, that are also poorly made, and more subversive about what they're doing. American Beauty is pretty straightforward, you realize you're getting a story about a man with poor morals the whole way through, and when it comes down to it, in the end his decisions end up killing him. So, we might be able to say the movie is condemning his actions(although I would disagree with this cop-out).

Take a movie like Grease. You get a story about a guy trying to get into a girls pants throughout the movie. She doesn't want to but he's persistent. He takes her on a date and he basically tries to rape her. She acts like a girl should, and gets out of the situation. However, the next day she regrets the situation, and goes back to him to be his slut.(I'm sure people are going to argue with this interpretation of the events in the movie, but I'm not even going to argue against it.)

This is all done in a poorly made made movie with boring songs, but furthermore it's subversive, because it's packaged like an innocent movie. Consequently, we get 10 year olds watching this crap, and growing up with it as one their favorite movies. I think this is a far worse situation than american beauty.

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carter23

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I saw it with my li'l brudder too.

haha nice... mine was, i'd say 8 at the time... i dont even think he liked it that much

let me re-iterate though -- i didn't throw up because it was bad (that may have been part of it :D ) but because of the whole 3-D part, where you have to put on those 3D glasses or the screen will look all weird

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rictus58

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Apt Pupil was horrendous.

Sadly, a lot of Stephen King books that are turned into movies end up sucking the big one.

I don't think this is one of them...unless you are talking about the end. The problem with turning a book into a movie is too much gets left out. This story is MADE in its ending. The movie just left you hanging. I though Ian Mcklellen did a great job as Dusander.

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Walking Deadman

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There's alot of them:

I've only walked out on 2 movies in the theater before they were done:

The Thin Red Line (stupid), and 8MM (I found this movie to be overtly disturbing for some reason).

Most recent Worst: Boogeyman-- do a search on ES you'll find my comments on it. Sam Rami (Evil dead, spiderman) and Eric Kripke (Supernatural on WB) What were you guys doing????

Worst all time: Leonard Part 6.-- I like Bill Cosby, but how he got to do this stinker.....he must owed a large chunk of money or his soul to somebody....Yikes!

Dishonorable Mention: Manos the Hands of Fate-- Leave it to the MST3K guys to find a movie soooooooo bad that even they have difficulty making fun of it. Monster (Torgo) that has BIG KNEES, the "Master" and his brides and the sicko ending where the little girl becomes (I suppose) one of his "brides".....horrible movie.

If you want to see some bad movies that are quite funny:

MST3K's: Robot Monster, Cave Dwellers, Pod People, Hobgoblins, The Corpse Vanishes and Mitchell

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Henry

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Nostril, my criteria for musicals is a little different than for other movies, especially when it comes to social commentary. Take The Music Man or Chicagofor example. Terrible, terrible plots. Dispicable characters. Still watchable. Musicals are like karate movies or porn. Deep plot/character study is not the reason you're watching. :)

Though I do agree that the ending of Grease was particularly bad. :)

American Beauty, however, is primarily plot/character driven. Big difference. I didn't get the impression that the writers were attempting to show Lester's decisions as self destructive. They were presented as liberating, and only society's ills killed him, not his own behaviour. Indeed, Lester was killed for his vision of thinking outside the suburban box, which I found particularly weak.

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