Dead Money Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Excuse me if I missed this being discussed for I did a brief search through the Sean Talyor threads for it. Adam Schefter said that there's trade talk in the works and interest from something like 4 teams that are interested in Gardner as per a discussion with Gardner's agent? (last night on NFL Total Access) Is this just smoke from the agent? Could it be possible that a team would trade for someone almost guaranteed to be released before the end of summer? Could it be that Gibbs is holding on to him as long as possible to force a trade no matter how devalued it is? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 now that the draft is well over, giving up a pick, even a conditional one in 2006 isn't that crazy. I think teams like Seattle, Carolina, Houston and even San Diego would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 The real problem is convincing Gardner to sign a new contract with an interested team. At this point I would think that Gibbs would be willing to hold onto Gardner until the right deal comes along in order to pressure him. Interested teams know that Gardner would have to be in their training camp to get maximum use out of him, so things should heat up now. I would suspect that a deal gets done before camps open, unless Rod drops the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Even with the signing of Dyson, it doesn't say that Gardner is definately getting released. It just says there will be more of a competition in camp. Call him 50/50 or wahtever you want, but his talent level is comparable to the other guys we signed. The Redskins could easily send a smoke signal and say that we're definately keeping Gardner and the competition is amongst the other guys we signed/have on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by wskin44 The real problem is convincing Gardner to sign a new contract with an interested team. At this point I would think that Gibbs would be willing to hold onto Gardner until the right deal comes along in order to pressure him. Interested teams know that Gardner would have to be in their training camp to get maximum use out of him, so things should heat up now. I would suspect that a deal gets done before camps open, unless Rod drops the ball. plus, teams do suffer injuries in late august and early sept. Then they are more willing to make a move. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 The team is doing the right thing with Gardner. Hold on to him as long as possible and limit his chances of getting picked up by another team if he doesn't accept a trade brokered. The team allowed his agent to find a trade, and then he turned them down, one after another. It would please me if we kept him all camp and cut him the day before the season starts to keep him from going where he wants to go. He is putting the team in a bad position so I have no problem with the team doing the same to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Bufford now that the draft is well over, giving up a pick, even a conditional one in 2006 isn't that crazy. I think teams like Seattle, Carolina, Houston and even San Diego would be interested. I see Seattle...they could replace Robinson with his clone. Gardner just has a partying problem not an illegal drug issue. Seattle is only asking for a third rounder for Alexander (I think) if they value him at a 3rd rounder then Gardner is what a 7th? Oh an yeah I agree that the team is doing the right thing with him. I just hope that if a WR that gets hurt in the preseason it isn't one of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 conditional pick. start with a 6th rounder. If he breaks 1000 yards or has like 8 TD's, bump it up to a 5th. if he also has both, a 4th rounder. If they get that out of him....anybody. It'll be worth that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by blakman211 Call him 50/50 or wahtever you want, but his talent level is comparable to the other guys we signed. so true. he has the potential to be the most dominant WR we have. but potential doesn't score TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Leonard Washington so true. he has the potential to be the most dominant WR we have. but potential doesn't score TDs. Exactly. Rod's made a career out of "potential." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 poor Rod, heard he's a pretty nice guy off field as well. If only he had learned to catch better. This makes it seem like Gardner wont be back, cause some people here still believe he will. Around training camp I bet we find a partner, as Bufford said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Gardner should be traded for pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 this situation is sounding more optomisitic, hopefully we can deal this guy soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by kappaluvacee The team is doing the right thing with Gardner. Hold on to him as long as possible and limit his chances of getting picked up by another team if he doesn't accept a trade brokered. The team allowed his agent to find a trade, and then he turned them down, one after another. It would please me if we kept him all camp and cut him the day before the season starts to keep him from going where he wants to go. He is putting the team in a bad position so I have no problem with the team doing the same to him. What are you talking about? Are you saying that a player shouldn't act in his own best finaincial interest but instead he should do what's best for the team that's trying to get rid of him? He didn't turn down any trade. He can't. He has to go wherever a team is willing to pay him 2.1M. You want him to agree to an extension with a team who is giving up something to get him which would be based on what he considers a bad year so that the Skins can get something for him. You also believe if he doesn't do what he considers not to be in his own best interest it's OK for the team to punish him. How do you think the other players feel about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 both sides have valid points. But if Rod really believes in his skills. He would of green lit a trade to a team where he could have some nice stats....then be a FA in 06 and make bank there. right now, he'd just get another average contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross3909 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I was wondering if there were some teams out there waiting to see if the Skins were going to release Gardener with the June 1st cuts before making their play for him. Now that they see that Gibbs is going to be a little more patient, their hands are forced. I am sure that Gardener is a nice guy, he is just too inconsistant with his catching. If we are to take a step to the next level on Offense we need recievers who can catch the tough passes and get that all important 3rd down conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by ross3909 I was wondering if there were some teams out there waiting to see if the Skins were going to release Gardener with the June 1st cuts before making their play for him. Now that they see that Gibbs is going to be a little more patient, their hands are forced. I am sure that Gardener is a nice guy, he is just too inconsistant with his catching. If we are to take a step to the next level on Offense we need recievers who can catch the tough passes and get that all important 3rd down conversion. Gardner can catch the tough passes...it's the easy ones he too often has trouble with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. S poor Rod, heard he's a pretty nice guy off field as well. If only he had learned to catch better. This makes it seem like Gardner wont be back, cause some people here still believe he will. Around training camp I bet we find a partner, as Bufford said. Rod is may things, but poor is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Bufford plus, teams do suffer injuries in late august and early sept. Then they are more willing to make a move. :helmet: Excellent point! A team that loses a WR in the pre-season might be desperate and give up a lot for Gardner. Patience is a virtue;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 AS long as we can get Rogers, Campbell and the other 2005 draftees signed.......keep Gardner until we (and he) can get the deal that everyone is looking for. RG asked to be traded, not the Skins we're looking to trade for him, so he and his agent should be pushing every team to pick him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Kevin B. Excuse me if I missed this being discussed for I did a brief search through the Sean Talyor threads for it. Adam Schefter said that there's trade talk in the works and interest from something like 4 teams that are interested in Gardner as per a discussion with Gardner's agent? (last night on NFL Total Access) Is this just smoke from the agent? Could it be possible that a team would trade for someone almost guaranteed to be released before the end of summer? Could it be that Gibbs is holding on to him as long as possible to force a trade no matter how devalued it is? Discuss. It's not in the agent's interest to talk about trade interest where there is none. He'd prefer to have Gardner released so he can sign a new contract with a new bonus. This sounds like there could be something to it . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think we should keep him. Garner, Moss and Taylor Jacobs sounds like a decent lineup to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkart Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Kevin B. Excuse me if I missed this being discussed for I did a brief search through the Sean Talyor threads for it. Adam Schefter said that there's trade talk in the works and interest from something like 4 teams that are interested in Gardner as per a discussion with Gardner's agent? (last night on NFL Total Access) Is this just smoke from the agent? Could it be possible that a team would trade for someone almost guaranteed to be released before the end of summer? Could it be that Gibbs is holding on to him as long as possible to force a trade no matter how devalued it is? Discuss. I heard a simular conversation last night, But it was about Vinny Testaverde not Gardner or trade, just that 4 teams where interested but that Vinny was going to wait till later to see if a starter gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuck Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by blakman211 Even with the signing of Dyson, it doesn't say that Gardner is definately getting released. It just says there will be more of a competition in camp. Call him 50/50 or wahtever you want, but his talent level is comparable to the other guys we signed. The Redskins could easily send a smoke signal and say that we're definately keeping Gardner and the competition is amongst the other guys we signed/have on the roster. His talent level maybe but not his work ethic or his paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Some team will be dumb enough to trade for him. The whole league new Brunell was going to be cut on June 1st. Lets just hope some team is run similar to ours :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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