Tarhog Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Since we ALL know how much smarter we are than coaching legend Joe Gibbs and his hand-picked staff, here's your opportunity to proclaim up front EXACTLY why Joe Gibbs mortgages the Redskin's future and single-handedly destroys all hope for our beloved franchise by selecting someone other than whom you liked on 24 April. Pick your poison. Why wait until after the draft? Get in line and start your nosebleed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrossmansGators Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Riggins rules the NFL in 2004-2005 you just watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 To bad I can only vote once. In hypoglycemic fog, Gibbs proclaims 'give us any sons of ****es you want, I'm a GOD and we WILL WIN!' :thumbsup: Gibbs foregoes draft, brings back Riggins, Sonny, and Dexter Manley, who all agree to play for an undisclosed amount of Bud Light :chug: :chug: :drunk: Snyder announces he'll defer to 'those smug ****s at extremeskins.com' in this years draft. Art selects Kellen Winslow AND Sean Taylor with the #5 pick. No one in the NFL's front office has the balls to argue. :laugh: :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I love the Lavar Arrington - Redskins trade picks for 'future considerations'. To make up for loss of new talent, Lavar Arrington announces he will play guard, tight end, running back, and punt. Arrington proudly displays his new contract (written on a napkin) for a 'gazillion-schmillion dollars. That's a classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Is this where we are supposed to record our "know-it-all" predictions for gloating next Sunday night? Well here are mine... 1. The #5 pick will NOT be packaged in some ridiculous trade-up scenario. The team will trade down from it TWICE, landing in the vicinity of #10-#13 where they will select DT Vince Wilfork and rack up a pair of 3rd round and a pair of 4th round picks. 2. Chris Samuels and Patrick Ramsey will NOT be traded. Rod Gardner WILL be traded to a team in the #17-#22 range. The team will then choose MLB Jonathan Vilma. 3. Trung Canidate will be moved some time this week for a 5th round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 how about, "Gibbs brings back Art Monk, Gary Clark, and puts him over Coles, wants Williams back at qb, and thinks Russ Grimm, Jacoby, Bostic, May, McKenzie are his better o-line. He thinks he can beat the Raiders in age" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by Buddha Is this where we are supposed to record our "know-it-all" predictions for gloating next Sunday night? Well here are mine... 1. The #5 pick will NOT be packaged in some ridiculous trade-up scenario. The team will trade down from it TWICE, landing in the vicinity of #10-#13 where they will select DT Vince Wilfork and rack up a pair of 3rd round and a pair of 4th round picks. 2. Chris Samuels and Patrick Ramsey will NOT be traded. Rod Gardner WILL be traded to a team in the #17-#22 range. The team will then choose MLB Jonathan Vilma. 3. Trung Canidate will be moved some time this week for a 5th round draft pick. Ahhh...a serious reply...intriguing! I agree that the trade-down is much more likely than the trade-up. I don't think Ramsey will go anywhere either. And I think you might be on to something regarding Canidate. He was on shaky shaky ground when Portis was signed. Coupled with his brittleness, he may be a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Japanese Sumo star Konichiwan Udezekabo Don't worry, Tarhog, I won't even ask how you knew that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I just think we missed on the whole Kenny Watson era. I know in my heart that we would be saying "Portis who?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by Buddha Rod Gardner WILL be traded to a team in the #17-#22 range. The team will then choose MLB Jonathan Vilma. Wow, with this WR deep draft you actually think some team will give up a first for Rod Gardner? Obviously, he's not what another team will be looking for, since you guys don't want him. When players are traded for draft picks, teams usually don't get full value. Faulk went for a 2nd and 4th I believe, Aneas Williams went for a 2nd and a 4th too, Kyle Turley was selected 7th overall and was had for a 2nd. Ricky Williams is the exception, but you have to consider Miami wasn't in a position to grab one of the top backs, and no one knew Portis was gonna blow up like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manichispanic Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I love the idea of Riggins playing for an undisclosed amount of bud light.......:laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Snyder announces he'll defer to 'those smug ****s at extremeskins.com' in this years draft. Art selects Kellen Winslow AND Sean Taylor with the #5 pick. No one in the NFL's front office has the balls to argue. NOt so much the balls as much as they just don't have the time. That and the written explaination as to why it could be done may have been a bit.............deep to er....wade through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfdc Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 My worst scenario has Marty convincing management that taking Sean Taylor, gets rid of two headaches. Stopping offenses and keeping both QB's happy in SD. You never know with Marty. My next worst case scenario is the Giants get a wild hair and take a trade, because Gallery goes at #3, Manning goes #1, Fitzgerald goes at two, the Pats pick Taylor at 4 (for the Pats mid round pick - they moved up from a trade - and a bunch more in the middle round, Giants take Rivers in the 1st round). We then have two scenarios at that point, both involving defensive lineman. We actually skip the issues taking Udeze lower, and we don't take Harris, we instead take Wilfork. The only other sensible option is Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 It's about time we had a thread that set the record straight on this year's draft! Hallelujah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by dallasfan Wow, with this WR deep draft you actually think some team will give up a first for Rod Gardner? Obviously, he's not what another team will be looking for, since you guys don't want him. When players are traded for draft picks, teams usually don't get full value. Faulk went for a 2nd and 4th I believe, Aneas Williams went for a 2nd and a 4th too, Kyle Turley was selected 7th overall and was had for a 2nd. Ricky Williams is the exception, but you have to consider Miami wasn't in a position to grab one of the top backs, and no one knew Portis was gonna blow up like this. I think you are forgetting something Cowboys fan. "Galloway remains among the league's fastest receivers at age 32, but mostly has been a disappointment in Dallas since the Cowboys surrendered two first-round draft picks to the Seattle Seahawks to acquire him in 2000. He had 34 receptions for 672 yards and two touchdowns last season and has 434 catches for 6,798 yards and 49 touchdowns in nine NFL seasons, five with Seattle and four with Dallas. " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4408-2004Mar18.html And you think Gardner a proven young vet Vs. an unproven Rookie wouldnt be worth a first rounder ? Cleveland would Gladly trade away the #7 overall pick for Pace or Samuels. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I think it's understood among the league that if Gardner is made available in trade, it has nothing to do with his skills or his durability. It has everything to do with the type of player that Gibbs wants on his club-- a much higher standard that most teams in this league feel is necessary. So making him available in this case does not diminish his trade value. By the time the #17 pick comes around, Fitzgerald and the Williamses will be gone with the next tier of receivers starting late in the first round. A team with WR as their top need could feasibly choose to deal the pick for Gardner-- a 26 year old big body wideout who hasn't missed a game in his 3 seasons and who racked up 1000+ yards as the top man in Spurrier's gimmicky system in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB81 Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 There is absolutely no chance we get a first round pick for Rod Gardner. If the Redskins get a first round pick for Rod Gardner, then I will agree stop posting on this site for 100 days. Seriously, if that happens, then I know nothing about football. They would be very hard pressed to get a 2nd round pick for Gardner, and would more likely get a third or a fourth for him. He is not very good, this is the deepest crop of receivers maybe ever and the Joey Galloway comparison does not work. Their first three years: Galloway 196 catches, 3095 yards, 26 TDs. Gardner: 176 catches, 2347 yards, 17 TDs. Also, Galloway was considered one of the fastest, if not the fastest receiver in the league. He was thought to be a #1 receiver. I don't think anyone considers Rod Gardner a #1 receiver. I guess we won't find out unless he is traded...but there is no chance you get a first round pick for Rod Gardner...in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chet06 Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Gardner gets a high second round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsandTerps I think you are forgetting something Cowboys fan. "Galloway remains among the league's fastest receivers at age 32, but mostly has been a disappointment in Dallas since the Cowboys surrendered two first-round draft picks to the Seattle Seahawks to acquire him in 2000. He had 34 receptions for 672 yards and two touchdowns last season and has 434 catches for 6,798 yards and 49 touchdowns in nine NFL seasons, five with Seattle and four with Dallas. " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4408-2004Mar18.html What does this have to do with Gardner? I don't know if you noticed, but this was 4 seasons ago, and Jerry Jones is definately not a master mind GM. That was a stupid trade, plain and simple, but just to humor you I'll play along. Prior to the trade, Galloway had 3 thousand yard seasons, and atleast showed glimpses of being a #1 WR. Rod Gardner barley got 1000 yards once, in a pass happy offense, and only managed 600 yards last year, and has questionable hands for a possesion WR. To add to my point Dallas wouldn't of been in a position to draft a WR, that year anyway. Originally posted by SkinsandTerps And you think Gardner a proven young vet Vs. an unproven Rookie wouldnt be worth a first rounder ? What exactly has Gardner proven? That he's a capable #2 WR? Teams don't give up mid first round picks for a #2 WR, when they could draft someone with the potential to be a #1. Originally posted by SkinsandTerps Cleveland would Gladly trade away the #7 overall pick for Pace or Samuels. IMO. Okay, are you saying Gardner is to WRs as Pace is to OTs? If you are there is no point arguing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Ok, here is what I think. 1. We will stay at #5 and pick S. Taylor. If Taylor is unavailable we will select Winslow. 2. Neither Chris Samuels nor Patrick Ramsey will be traded. 3. I have to agree that Rod Gardner will garner no more than a mid second round pick. However, I am still not sold on the idea that the skins are going to get rid of him. If the skins get a pick in the #17-#22 range, as one poster suggested, than Gardner will be dealt regardless of wheter they wanted to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkelch Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Gibb’s sends picks to Dallas, Dallas promises to forfeit the 26 December game allowing Gibb’s and team to stay home for the holidays. Gibb’s proclaims ‘that stadium just stinks’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilberMarshall Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Dude there's no selection that says All of the Above ! What gives? I like em all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I like the idea of bringing Sonny, Riggins, and Manley back. We should get a Senior Citizen discount on our cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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