Game Day Thread: 2022 - {{SUPERBOWL 57}} ~ THE CHIEFS vs. THE EAGLES

[tshile]

I imagine part of the reason we don’t have an nfl response on schedule is due to not knowing outcome. Which should be reasonably known in the next 24 hours. He’ll either come off a ventilator and start showing what he can/can’t do, or he’ll stay on the ventilator because the damage is so extensive he cannot breath on his own 

 

and also it should be noted that just because you are resuscitated, doesn’t mean you made it. People still die even if cpr is successful to get them onto machines. 
 

they probably have two different plans depending on outcome and the impact to the team. 

Also - to people claiming they should have finished the game or just play today or whatever - cpr is a traumatic thing to be involved in. Whether you’re actively participating or just observing. 
 

it’s wholly unreasonable to expect them to just go out and play. Especially with no closure on what the outcome is. 
 

 

[NickyJ]

 

[Hazel-Ra]

Call it a tie and move on. Everyone is (rightly) saying his health is the priority, so act as if the game tied and let the bones fall where they may. Making the other players cram in 2 games in that short of time would be bad for their well being.

 

[hail2skins]

4 minutes ago, Hazel-Ra said:

Call it a tie and move on. Everyone is (rightly) saying his health is the priority, so act as if the game tied and let the bones fall where they may. Making the other players cram in 2 games in that short of time would be bad for their well being.

 

Yeah, at this point I don't know of any better option.

[tshile]

Just my opinion - I would think bills forfeit is what’s fair. 
 

 

[MrJL]

14 minutes ago, tshile said:

Just my opinion - I would think bills forfeit is what’s fair. 
 

 

The Bills having to forfeit to try to save their teammate seems fair?

 

 

[NickyJ]

11 minutes ago, MrJL said:

The Bills having to forfeit to try to save their teammate seems fair?

The Bills players aren't trying to save their teammate, he's in a hospital under the care of physicians.

[88Comrade2000]

Well you could call the game as is, Cincy 7-3 win.

 

It will probably be up to the Bills. Do they attempt to play later. They cancel the game all together and Cincy/Buffalo only have 16 games. They call the game for Cincy. Buffalo just forfeits. Or they call it tie.

 

Hamlin’s long term condition might not known for days and he still might not make it.

 

Sadly, the business of football goes on. While this game outcome unknown; there’s still a Week 18 game for Sunday. Going to hard for the Bills players to play Sunday.

 

If Week 18 goes on as scheduled, I figure the Bills/Bengals/NFL will decide what to do about that game after Week 18.

[stoshuaj]

And of course, leave it to Skip ****ing Bayless to be “that guy”….. what the hell is it going to take for them to move on from this asshat?  He’s an internet troll with a microphone.  Is it really worth the $$ and aggravation to keep him?

[tshile]

2 hours ago, MrJL said:

The Bills having to forfeit to try to save their teammate seems fair?

 

 

They weren’t doing anything to save him. Medical professionals were. 
 

but it was their team that had it happen to them. 
 

I realize cinci players were affected to. But if someone had to accept something record wise, Buffalo taking the loss makes more sense than forcing cinci to also take a tie. 
 

there are other teams that affected by the options here. 
 

but it’s just my opinion and it’s ok if other people see it differently. 

2 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Hamlin’s long term condition might not known for days and he still might not make it.

This is “wrong” in terms of having an idea

 

they will know within the first 24 hours whether he suffered brain damage to the extent he cannot currently breath on his own. If he did then it’s totally screwed and yeah he may die or be brain dead. 
 

but if he can breath on his own then they’ll be able to quickly diagnose how severe the brain damage is (not fully but they’ll have a good general idea) 

 

edit: I’m only talking in the context of the nfl trying to figure out what to do schedule wise.  Cause I imagine his teammates not knowing anything matters. In the context of the bigger picture obviously more time will be needed. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by tshile

[PolarExpress]

16 hours ago, tshile said:

Change this injury to dangerous storm and they figure it out. You’re making this into a bigger deal than it needs to be. 
 

they’ll likely play tomorrow early afternoon or something. Like they did with Covid rescheduling 

Just read it won’t be played this week, so my comment is irrelevant.

Edited January 3, 2023 by PolarExpress
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[PolarExpress]

1 hour ago, tshile said:

They weren’t doing anything to save him. Medical professionals were. 
 

but it was their team that had it happen to them. 
 

I realize cinci players were affected to. But if someone had to accept something record wise, Buffalo taking the loss makes more sense than forcing cinci to also take a tie. 
 

there are other teams that affected by the options here. 
 

but it’s just my opinion and it’s ok if other people see it differently. 

This is “wrong” in terms of having an idea

 

they will know within the first 24 hours whether he suffered brain damage to the extent he cannot currently breath on his own. If he did then it’s totally screwed and yeah he may die or be brain dead. 
 

but if he can breath on his own then they’ll be able to quickly diagnose how severe the brain damage is (not fully but they’ll have a good general idea) 

 

edit: I’m only talking in the context of the nfl trying to figure out what to do schedule wise.  Cause I imagine his teammates not knowing anything matters. In the context of the bigger picture obviously more time will be needed. 

Are you a doctor?  Just curious.

[tshile]

39 minutes ago, PolarExpress said:

Just read it won’t be played this week, so my comment is irrelevant.

Yeah they announced it hours ago so it’s funny to claim it now. 
 

as for your doctor question - no but I’m married to someone in healthcare that is very familiar with it. And I listened to the cardiac specialist for the wizards this morning and was paraphrasing what he said. 
 

the first step is figure out if he’s capable of breathing on his own which should be 18-36 hours. If he can’t - then the brain damage is severe and death is still on the table and they’ll have to rely on brain scans and such. 
 

if he can, than they can start to evaluate him and while it’ll take a while to nail it down but it’ll be quick to see which direction he’s headed in. 
 

he also said it’s possible for full recovery and back to playing shortly but he’d have to be cleared. And I’ve heard quite a few people say it’s likely he wouldn’t be cleared even with full recovery but 🤷‍♂️ how accurate that is. 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by tshile

[CousinsCowgirl84]

2 hours ago, stoshuaj said:

And of course, leave it to Skip ****ing Bayless to be “that guy”….. what the hell is it going to take for them to move on from this asshat?  He’s an internet troll with a microphone.  Is it really worth the $$ and aggravation to keep him?

I read what he said. Didn’t seem that outrageous. Just a little awkward with the phrasing.

If the game won’t change the seeding every one probably agrees to let it go… but otherwise what is fair is for the game to be played.

 

 

[tshile]

10 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

I read what he said. Didn’t seem that outrageous. Just a little awkward with the phrasing.

If the game won’t change the seeding every one probably agrees to let it go… but otherwise what is fair is for the game to be played.

 

 

the #1 seed in the afc was up for grabs between KC and buffalo, but buffalo needed 2 wins and a KC loss. If this game isn’t played buffalo cannot compete for the #1 if KC wins. 
 

Ravens cannot win division of Cincinnati can’t lose this game. 

(or something like that) 

 

so some stuff is affected. I’d be shocked if we heard anything more than a random player complaining about it though. The guy still may die. I’d be shocked if the ravens as an organization were anything other than supportive publicly. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by tshile

[PolarExpress]

49 minutes ago, tshile said:

Yeah they announced it hours ago so it’s funny to claim it now. 
 

as for your doctor question - no but I’m married to someone in healthcare that is very familiar with it. And I listened to the cardiac specialist for the wizards this morning and was paraphrasing what he said. 
 

the first step is figure out if he’s capable of breathing on his own which should be 18-36 hours. If he can’t - then the brain damage is severe and death is still on the table and they’ll have to rely on brain scans and such. 
 

if he can, than they can start to evaluate him and while it’ll take a while to nail it down but it’ll be quick to see which direction he’s headed in. 
 

he also said it’s possible for full recovery and back to playing shortly but he’d have to be cleared. And I’ve heard quite a few people say it’s likely he wouldn’t be cleared even with full recovery but 🤷‍♂️ how accurate that is. 

 

I corrected my error as I missed the announcement.  My apologies.
My spouse was a medical doctor (died of a rare cancer recently), and I hope we hear from one of the actual cardiologists treating him soon.  I read so much speculation about the rare cancer and so many implied 5 years, but alas 6 months was all we got.  I just like to deal in facts when possible.  Thanks for replying.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

4 minutes ago, tshile said:

the #1 seed in the afc was up for grabs between KC and buffalo, but buffalo needed 2 wins and a KC loss. If this game isn’t played buffalo cannot compete for the #1 if KC wins. 
 

Ravens cannot win division of Cincinnati can’t lose this game. 
 

so some stuff is affected. I’d be shocked if we heard anything more than a random player complaining about it though. The guy still may die. I’d be shocked if the ravens as an organization were anything other than supportive publicly. 

Yes. But after next weeks games, the impact of this game will be clearer, for example if ravens loose, cinci wins, and kc wins, seeding wouldn’t be affected (if that was all that was effected in your scenerio)

Edited January 3, 2023 by CousinsCowgirl84

[tshile]

16 minutes ago, PolarExpress said:

I just like to deal in facts when possible.

Well there isn’t much to go on. So yeah it’s all speculating. 
 

on that note I chuckle every time I read the closing line “we’ll pass along information as we receive it”

 

it would be neat to understand the flow chart of information before it is released publicly. Medical staff won’t say anything (can’t imagine the people working there on this would be that unprofessional.). Top brass won’t except for these press releases. Family is a wild card but considering this man’s career is most likely over one way or another, it doesn’t really serve them to jump out of step with everyone else 

[spjunkies]

 

 

[spjunkies]

 

[zCommander]

 

 

[88Comrade2000]

The uncle said on CNN that his nephew had to be revived twice. Once on the field and once at hospital.

[Dan T.]

I worry that Hamlin may have suffered a concussion too.  After he stood up he fell straight backward and slammed his head on the turf pretty hard. I hope that’s not overlooked.   If he did I wonder how or if it complicates the treatment of and recovery ftom his more serious trauma.

[tshile]

With the news tonight about a second resuscitation,still unable to breath tonight, I know that tweet says 50% but they’re saying they have him in prone position (cnn) which means he’s not doing well on a ventilator (and the fact I have no idea what I’m talking about):

 

I think we have our answer about what direction this is going. Serious brain damage. Anoxic brain injury. 

Edited January 4, 2023 by tshile

[PolarExpress]

7 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

The uncle said on CNN that his nephew had to be revived twice. Once on the field and once at hospital.

That’s not good news, but I am praying for the best.  

4 hours ago, tshile said:

With the news tonight about a second resuscitation,still unable to breath tonight, I know that tweet says 50% but they’re saying they have him in prone position (cnn) which means he’s not doing well on a ventilator (and the fact I have no idea what I’m talking about):

 

I think we have our answer about what direction this is going. Serious brain damage. Anoxic brain injury. 

It’s bad.  I have a feeling that lots of hard decisions are going to have to be made in the next day or two.  I hope he’s a miracle case.