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OK, I'm not really trying to be pessimestic about this, just playing Devil's advocate for a sec. St. Joe has been out of football for a dozen years. Can a comeback be successful? No matter how badly we want it, his coming back does NOT automagically make us a winner. This is HUGE news but he would have to have some tricks up his sleeve because I don't necessarily see his old offense, especially the one-back running game, working in this day and age.

Maybe I just don't want to take the chance of tarnishing his image and having things not work out. On paper, it's a miracle. I just pray on the field is not something else.

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Originally posted by Rejuvenated Canadian Hog

You think Parcells is crapping his pants right about now? I can see it now at a Dallas press conference in a week:

Jerrah: "we are gathered here today to announce the resignation of Bill Parcells as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys."

:rotflmao: :dallasuck :dallasuck

Parcells had plenty of success against Gibbs.

This will probably really get his juices going. It probably got the Cowboys at least another year out of him.

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-- Allen Leaving Raiders -- from FFMastermind.com

AP reports senior assistant Bruce Allen is leaving the team, possibly to become general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who say they are still in the interview process for the position. And he might even take Mike Lombardi, director of player personnel, with him. "Bruce Allen is leaving the Raiders and will announce where he is going in the very near future," team spokesman Artie Gigantino said Tuesday afternoon. "Bruce Allen was a players' agent prior to coming to the Raiders, and he worked alongside Al Davis for eight or nine years. He has become a very, very good NFL administrator. The Raiders wish him the best of luck."

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Originally posted by CrankyTodd

mms://66.250.188.10/WTEM_AM

The above url is the direct link to WTEM's online stream. Open windows media player, click file, open location/url, and paste it in. It will avoid all of that pop up window and registration crap.

You are the man!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Sarge

I'm on Hawaiin time guys, 5 hours behind the East Coast. Go get some Z's, I'll post anything I see until 0400hrs East Coast time. Some of you early risers can take it from there.

Early risers? I think that your more likely to get a lot of "late sleepers" tonight!

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Newer article from the Post...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60572-2004Jan6.html

Redskins Interested in Gibbs Returning

Former Coach Said to Be in Discussions

By Mark Maske and Leonard Shapiro

Washington Post Staff Writers

Wednesday, January 7, 2004; Page D01

Joe Gibbs, the Hall of Fame coach who led the Washington Redskins to three Super Bowl titles in the 1980s and early '90s, is in serious discussions with the team about returning to be its head coach, sources with connections to Gibbs through his auto-racing interests and other ventures said last night.

Gibbs, 63, has told associates in NASCAR that he is contemplating a return to football as the Redskins' coach, sources said.

Gibbs could not be reached for comment last night, and the chances of him accepting the head coaching job were unknown. It also could not be determined whether he would be willing to consider working for the team in another capacity.

The Redskins have been looking for a coach since Steve Spurrier resigned eight days ago. Owner Daniel Snyder and vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato are known to have conducted face-to-face interviews with three candidates -- former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel, former Minnesota Vikings coach Dennis Green and Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinator Ray Rhodes.

Rhodes interviewed with Snyder and Cerrato in the D.C. area yesterday. But a source close to Fassel said last night that he did not believe Fassel would be hired by the Redskins because the club was planning a major surprise. He added that he believed Gibbs's return would be the surprise.

Gibbs coached the Redskins between 1981 and '92 and led them to Super Bowl victories following the 1982, '87 and '91 seasons. Gibbs's Redskins also reached the Super Bowl following the 1983 season but lost.

He resigned from the Redskins following the 1992 season and has not coached since. He is a minority owner with the Atlanta Falcons and would have to sell his small interest to return to the sideline with the Redskins. He has turned over the vast majority of ownership of his NASCAR racing teams to his sons.

The Redskins have reached the playoffs only once since the glory days they enjoyed under Gibbs, late owner Jack Kent Cooke and former general manager Bobby Beathard. They were 12-20 in two seasons under Spurrier. Snyder signed Spurrier, who had amassed 122 victories and a college national championship in 12 seasons at the University of Florida, to a five-year, $25 million contract in January 2002. But Spurrier seemed overmatched by the NFL game and left with three seasons remaining on his contract.

The Redskins wanted a proven NFL coach and put Fassel, Green and Rhodes at or near the top of their list. But people around the NFL suspected that Snyder had at least one other, unidentified candidate.

Gibbs has often said he was quite content operating a NASCAR team and some of his former football associates said last night that they would be surprised to see him return. But he has said in interviews in recent years that his health is good again after deteriorating under the strain of coaching in his final years in the NFL. He also has said that he wanted his grandchildren to know that he did something in sports before NASCAR.

If Gibbs returns, he would hope to follow the path of Dick Vermeil and Bill Parcells. Vermeil returned to the NFL in 1997 following a 14-year layoff from coaching. He led the St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl triumph following the '99 season and has the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs this season. Parcells, Gibbs's former adversary as the Giants' coach, led the Dallas Cowboys to the playoffs this season after being out of coaching for three seasons.

Snyder has had a cordial relationship with Gibbs since purchasing the Redskins in 1999. The Bethesda marketing executive grew up a zealous fan of the team and tried to hire Beathard as his general manager in January 2002 before the deal unraveled at the last minute. Snyder is about to hire his fifth head coach following Norv Turner, interim coach Terry Robiskie, Marty Schottenheimer and Spurrier.

After leaving football, Gibbs began dabbling in stock-car racing, and he swiftly became one of the most respected owners in NASCAR, breaking through the good-old-boy network and proving himself as a shrewd businessmen who hired the best people and allowed them to do their jobs. He founded Joe Gibbs Racing in 1991, and began competing at the sport's highest level with driver Dale Jarrett in 1992. Jarrett won the sport's premiere event, the Daytona 500, in 1993, in what Gibbs said was equivalent to an expansion team winning the Super Bowl in its second year. It was a swift rise for a football coach in a sport that, a decade ago, was still protected by old-time racers.

The strength of Gibbs and his organization, though, showed after Jarrett moved on in 1996. Gibbs, who had wooed Interstate Batteries as a multi-million dollar sponsor, hired driver Bobby Labonte, then an unknown running in NASCAR's top minor league series. Labonte and Gibbs grew their operation together. In 1999, Gibbs expanded his operation, adding a second race team and hiring the young, flamboyant Tony Stewart as the driver. In a sport that depends largely on sponsorship, he also landed what would become one of the sport's most prominent sponsors, The Home Depot.

In doing so, Gibbs established an innovative approach to owning teammates in NASCAR, and observers frequently likened it to coaching. Labonte and Stewart competed against each other on the track, but their cars were built in the same shop, the personnel on their teams worked closely together, and all employees of Joe Gibbs Racing shared in bonuses when either driver won a race.

The approach brought immediate success. Labonte won the sport's season-long championship -- the Winston Cup -- in 2000, a year after Stewart was named the series' top rookie. In 2002, Stewart won the championship, making Gibbs perhaps the most successful owner in the sport.

Staff writer Barry Svrluga contributed to this report.

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All hail Barry Svrluga.... he must have the inside source or something.

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Deal to bring back Gibbs might be finalized Wednesday

Jan. 6, 2004

By Jay Glazer

SportsLine.com Senior Writer

Tell Jay your opinion!

For the second consecutive year it appears something unthinkable will happen in the coaching ranks.

High-level Redskins sources told SportsLine.com that the team has begun negotiations with former Washington great Joe Gibbs to return to the team as its head coach. Gibbs, who owns a small percentage of the Atlanta Falcons, is thought to be seriously leaning toward a return to the team that made him famous and a deal appears imminent barring a late breakdown or change of heart.

A deal could be finalized as early as Wednesday.

Gibbs would have to surrender his shares with the Atlanta Falcons if he became the Redskins' coach.

Last year the Dallas Cowboys signed Bill Parcells, taking him out of retirement. But Gibbs is a different story. He has been out of coaching since 1992 after leading the Redskins to three Super Bowl titles and then left football completely to join NASCAR.

One person close to the situation said that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder offered Gibbs a rather hefty sum to return to the sidelines and wanted to make a big splash with such a shocking development in the next day or two.

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Originally posted by CrankyTodd

mms://66.250.188.10/WTEM_AM

The above url is the direct link to WTEM's online stream. Open windows media player, click file, open location/url, and paste it in. It will avoid all of that pop up window and registration crap.

thanks sooooo much cranky... i couldn't get the listen live to work off the 980 page.

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