The Official QB Thread- JD5 taken #2. Randall 2.0 or Bayou Bob? Mariotta and Hartman forever. Fromm cut

[actorguy1]

 

 

 

[mistertim]

I still find it hard to completely ignore the twitter stuff and crap from his agent. True, it wasn't Daniels speaking, but shouldn't he be in some control over what his agent says and the messaging? If he's not in control, who is? It just sort of feels like a weird cop out for a grown man to simply be absolved of anything that someone who works for him does or says. And if his agent is such a moron and went totally rogue I'd probably fire his ass if he made me look bad like that. Or at the very least give some sort of clarification. Instead some other agent from the same agency came out for damage control duty.

 

It sort of feels like Daniels either doesn't disagree with his agent or he's not really the one fully in control of the situation. Or, again, his agent legit went 100% rogue which should be a fireable offense.

 

And yeah you can say I'm looking into it too much or overreacting. But there have been too many prospects in the past where people ignored small "insignificant" warning signs and ended up paying for it later.

[TurningTheCorner]

1 minute ago, bh32 said:

Im sorry Keim is full of **** on the agent matter..Did the agent not like a tweet that suggested he did not like the way Washington conducted the all 30 visits?

I’m sorry but are you kidding me with this? Take a step back from the ledge and evaluate what you are actually ascertaining.

 

I really can’t wait for the draft to be here to put all of this nonsense to rest.

[Ghost of]

22 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

McCar-thee, or not McCar-thee, that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of passing on the national champion,

Or to take arms against a sea of QB troubles,
And by drafting him, end them.

 

 

Hamlet. Act 3, Scene 1.

[mistertim]

2 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

I’m sorry but are you kidding me with this? Take a step back from the ledge and evaluate what you are actually ascertaining.

 

I really can’t wait for the draft to be here to put all of this nonsense to rest.

 

What specifically do you think the agents tweet and the like of the other tweet meant if it didn't signify dissatisfaction with the process? Give us details please. 

[bh32]

1 minute ago, TurningTheCorner said:

I’m sorry but are you kidding me with this? Take a step back from the ledge and evaluate what you are actually ascertaining.

 

I really can’t wait for the draft to be here to put all of this nonsense to rest.

Did the agent like a tweet that criticised  the way washington handled the all 30 visits? yes or no

 

[CommanderInTheRye]

Haven’t watched it yet, but I assume the title says it all:

 

 

“Drake Maye Is A Slam Dunk NFL Draft Prospect”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited April 20 by CommanderInTheRye

[TurningTheCorner]

2 minutes ago, mistertim said:

I still find it hard to completely ignore the twitter stuff and crap from his agent. True, it wasn't Daniels speaking, but shouldn't he be in some control over what his agent says and the messaging? If he's not in control, who is? It just sort of feels like a weird cop out for a grown man to simply be absolved of anything that someone who works for him does or says. And if his agent is such a moron and went totally rogue I'd probably fire his ass if he made me look bad like that. Or at the very least give some sort of clarification. Instead some other agent from the same agency came out for damage control duty.

 

It sort of feels like Daniels either doesn't disagree with his agent or he's not really the one fully in control of the situation. Or, again, his agent legit went 100% rogue which should be a fireable offense.

 

And yeah you can say I'm looking into it too much or overreacting. But there have been too many prospects in the past where people ignored small "insignificant" warning signs and ended up paying for it later.

Dude think about what you’re saying here. Do you think the agent sat there knowing someone would be scanning that tweet looking for his emoji to come through? Did anyone know who his agent was before this? Did anyone care? No, cause it’s a non factor on where he’s drafted and that’s probably what his agent thought putting an emoji out there. He wants his client to be drafted number 2, he wanted more face time and that to be more of a certainty this past week. It’s more money and more notoriety which is good for the agency and business. Of course he didn’t like the group trip haha like why would he? It was dumb he subjected them to any of this for absolute crazy people that scan and look for this drama on social media. But it literally means nothing. It’s sad we’re even talking about it, and the fact you are is a way to cling onto Maye being the pick even if the signs say otherwise. 

[mistertim]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of said:

 

Hamlet. Act 3, Scene 1.

 

"Spock, where the hell is the franchise QB you promised me?"

 

"One damn minute, Admiral"

[FlyBigBeard]

Draft JJ , Or Maye .... Daniels just seems like he is going to be a problem if he doesn't really want to play here. We don't need the questions or drama. JJ and Maye don't come with any questions (doubts) about playing for us. Daniels will play wherever he's drafted I'm sure. But when it comes to that second contract, that's when the issue arises if he really didn't want to play here. Trade with New England if you know they would rather have Daniels and get another 2nd round pick win win. 

[bh32]

3 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Dude think about what you’re saying here. Do you think the agent sat there knowing someone would be scanning that tweet looking for his emoji to come through? Did anyone know who his agent was before this? Did anyone care? No, cause it’s a non factor on where he’s drafted and that’s probably what his agent thought putting an emoji out there. He wants his client to be drafted number 2, he wanted more face time and that to be more of a certainty this past week. It’s more money and more notoriety which is good for the agency and business. Of course he didn’t like the group trip haha like why would he? It was dumb he subjected them to any of this for absolute crazy people that scan and look for this drama on social media. But it literally means nothing. It’s sad we’re even talking about it, and the fact you are is a way to cling onto Maye being the pick even if the signs say otherwise. 

No his agent knows that group all 30 puts his client at a disadavantage compared to the other QB's that attended and he dosen't like it.

[mistertim]

2 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Dude think about what you’re saying here. Do you think the agent sat there knowing someone would be scanning that tweet looking for his emoji to come through? Did anyone know who his agent was before this? Did anyone care? No, cause it’s a non factor on where he’s drafted and that’s probably what his agent thought putting an emoji out there. He wants his client to be drafted number 2, he wanted more face time and that to be more of a certainty this past week. It’s more money and more notoriety which is good for the agency and business. Of course he didn’t like the group trip haha like why would he? It was dumb he subjected them to any of this for absolute crazy people that scan and look for this drama on social media. But it literally means nothing. It’s sad we’re even talking about it, and the fact you are is a way to cling onto Maye being the pick even if the signs say otherwise. 

 

All you're basically doing is gaslighting here and pretending like nothing happened and that anyone who thinks anything of it is crazy. But you then go on to admit that yeah he probably didn't like the process but you hand wave that away as the process itself being silly, even though many NFL teams have admitted to doing that sort of thing in the past, including Bill B.

 

And of COURSE people on Twitter who are NFL scout types or analysts are going to know who he is. The effing immediately recognized him and brought attention to it, for god's sake.

 

Oh and you're also going back to the old "all publicity is good publicity" well it seems, when this sort of thing could potentially cost his client millions of dollars. If he wanted his client to be drafted #2 ****ing about the interview process with the team holding that pick is a really odd way to go about it.

[TurningTheCorner]

2 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

All you're basically doing is gaslighting here and pretending like nothing happened and that anyone who thinks anything of it is crazy. But you then go on to admit that yeah he probably didn't like the process but you hand wave that away as the process itself being silly, even though many NFL teams have admitted to doing that sort of thing in the past, including Bill B.

 

And of COURSE people on Twitter who are NFL scout types or analysts are going to know who he is. The effing immediately recognized him and brought attention to it, for god's sake.

 

Oh and you're also going back to the old "all publicity is good publicity" well it seems, when this sort of thing could potentially cost his client millions of dollars. If he wanted his client to be drafted #2 ****ing about the interview process with the team holding that pick is a really odd way to go about it.

Keim thinks it’s crazy. Is he gas lighting?

[RWJ]

52 minutes ago, Ghost of said:

At Michigan I've heard they called him Football Serpentor.

So, he's considered a hero in MI.  Hey, we draft him we hope for the best.  Good character and leader and we hope.    

[bh32]

Just now, TurningTheCorner said:

Keim thinks it’s crazy. Is he gas lighting?

Keim don't no **** just like the rest of the media

[CommanderInTheRye]

2 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

JD is at best  injury prone Alex Smith with a turbo button

 

 

Listen, there are a lot of great reasons to prefer Maye over Jayden, but being injury prone is not one of them.

 

He played 55 games in college, including the last 2 years against brutal SEC defenses whose number one priority was to prevent him from taking over games by any means necessary, and in all that time he missed one game due to injury.

 

Sure he’s small and he takes big collisions, but up until now, he has been the furthest thing from an injury prone player. We can speculate that his size and recklessness will lead to injuries in the NFL, if he doesn’t alter his game, and for the record that’s my belief as well, but it’s not proven— at the end of the day he still has only missed one game in his career.

 

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Edited April 20 by CommanderInTheRye

[mistertim]

1 minute ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Keim thinks it’s crazy. Is he gas lighting?

 

He doesn't think it's crazy and isn't pretending it didn't happen. He's simply downplaying it some, even though IIRC he was actually one of the people who brought attention to it, so who knows what his play is here.

 

You going to respond to any of my other points? Do you think ****ing about their interview process is the best way to secure your client a spot with a certain team?

[Jumbo]

16 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

I’m sorry but are you kidding me with this? Take a step back from the ledge and evaluate what you are actually ascertaining.

 

I really can’t wait for the draft to be here to put all of this nonsense to rest.

 

You just got here. That's a lot of gratuitous, puffed up, and misplaced attitude you just brought to the fore. There's room for calling out ridiculous exaggeration and there's room for allowable, reasonable levels of difference about how the tweet may or may not matter.

 

When you castigate another poster, or some unspecified number of forum members by implication, you're gambling that your take will be shared or supported by all the moderators.

 

I suggest you make better judgments than this about what you're going to post.

 

Added: I just read teo more posts you made on this, and you can apply my comments here to those, also.

 

Again, you're new here. Maybe try getting to know your fellow posters and the forum in general before you start throwing the attitude around.

[zCommander]

1 hour ago, Llevron said:

All I did was make up some completely random bull**** and everybody started picking on me 

 

You know this happens to me too. Weird. 

[Skinsinparadise]

21 minutes ago, mistertim said:

I still find it hard to completely ignore the twitter stuff and crap from his agent. True, it wasn't Daniels speaking, but shouldn't he be in some control over what his agent says and the messaging? If he's not in control, who is? It just sort of feels like a weird cop out for a grown man to simply be absolved of anything that someone who works for him does or says. And if his agent is such a moron and went totally rogue I'd probably fire his ass if he made me look bad like that. Or at the very least give some sort of clarification. Instead some other agent from the same agency came out for damage control duty.

 

It sort of feels like Daniels either doesn't disagree with his agent or he's not really the one fully in control of the situation. Or, again, his agent legit went 100% rogue which should be a fireable offense.

 

In my job I work for public figures I can say whatever I want on twitter my client cant monitor me 24/7 and plenty in my profession cross these types of lines on different angles than this but on a similsr concept, some get fired, most get privately scolded.

 

Keim based on some of his podcasts comes off like he knows people super close to Daniels so if hes playing it down I doubt he’s spitballing on it i gather its directly from his camp 

Edited April 20 by Skinsinparadise

[TurningTheCorner]

Just now, Jumbo said:

 

You just got here. That's a lot of gratuitous, puffed up, and misplaced attitude you just brought to the fore. There's room for calling out ridiculous exaggeration and there's room for allowable, reasonable levels of difference about how the tweet may or may not matter.

 

When you castigate another poster, or some unspecified number of forum members by implication, you're gambling that your take will be shared or supported by all the moderators.

 

I suggest you make better judgments than this about what you're going to post.

 

Added: I just read teo more posts you made on this, and you can apply my comments here to those, also.

 

Again, you're new here. Maybe try getting to know your fellow posters and the forum in general before you start throwing the attitude around.

Sorry got ahead of myself thanks for the level set and I’ll bow out  

[mistertim]

1 minute ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Sorry got ahead of myself thanks for the level set and I’ll bow out  

 

I recommend against getting to know me. I'm kind of a dick. 

[Jumbo]

4 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Sorry got ahead of myself thanks for the level set and I’ll bow out  

 

No need to bow out, afaic, but no pressure to continue either. Your call. I hope you'll last and come to really enjoy the community.

 

Even though some of us are despicable at times. 😬

3 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I recommend against getting to know me. I'm kind of a dick. 

 

 

Truth in advertising. 😛

[CommanderInTheRye]

4 minutes ago, TurningTheCorner said:

Sorry got ahead of myself thanks for the level set and I’ll bow out  

 

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

I think all that’s needed is a slight tone change. We all make mistakes in new environments and every forum has it’s own individual character.

 

To be on the safe side if you haven’t already I’d read the stickied thread on the front page that specifies the rules.

 

I look forward to discussing football with you in the future.

[mac8887]

I doubt a liked tweet or an emoji will have any effect on our pick at all. If the pick is Maye, it was most likely headed that way anyway. If the pick is Daniels, same. If the pick is JJ McCarthy, then we made the right pick.