The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Thread

[tshile]

It’s actually a ton of fun academically. By far the coolest projects I worked on. 
 

you can get into things like roborescue (software simulation of disasters like building collapses, and how you can write a system to run robots through the disaster area to find people) and robocup (actual robotics soccer leagues and also software simulation.) the professors are some of the smarter and more clever people you’ll meet - their projects are just a lot of fun. 

flockbots and swarm systems were all the new rage when I was in the ungrad classes. 

and GMU the grad program (I wasn’t in the grad program although they wanted me to become a ugta to start down the path, I went elsewhere for grad school, for a short period of time) is fully funded. I don’t know what it looks like now but when I was there it was the only fully funded grad department. 
 

(if you don’t know what that means - it means the grad research assistants get a stipend, tuition and room and board covered, because the professors are bringing in so much grant money. The stipend doesn’t match what they’d make in the private sector, but it’s good enough to keep them in the system to finish out their degree)

 

GMU gets a bad rep as a school from people in NOVA but they had a badass CS department. 

 

if you can code and handle the math it’s great fun and a hell of a path to go down. 

 

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i say math but that’s probably way dated information now. The integration of genetic algorithms (new when I was in it), the mapping of the human brain, the huge advances they’ve made in vision and NLP… there’s probably a lot of wiggle room to be involved in the field without being strong in math. Anything related to cognitive processes (biological or otherwise) is needed. And of course engineering - a lot of what’s holding up robotics (in my mind) is the need to make better physical components (and smaller) 

Edited February 23 by tshile

[Califan007 The Constipated]

8 hours ago, Skins24 said:

No bump for Sora?

 

Nothing is Real Anymore

 

 

 

[Skins24]

In the meantime, over at Google, they had to stop 'ol Gemini. Well, the creating images of people portion. 

Just a tad too 'woke'

😂

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

1 hour ago, tshile said:

It’s actually a ton of fun academically. By far the coolest projects I worked on. 
 

you can get into things like roborescue (software simulation of disasters like building collapses, and how you can write a system to run robots through the disaster area to find people) and robocup (actual robotics soccer leagues and also software simulation.) the professors are some of the smarter and more clever people you’ll meet - their projects are just a lot of fun. 

flockbots and swarm systems were all the new rage when I was in the ungrad classes. 

and GMU the grad program (I wasn’t in the grad program although they wanted me to become a ugta to start down the path, I went elsewhere for grad school, for a short period of time) is fully funded. I don’t know what it looks like now but when I was there it was the only fully funded grad department. 
 

(if you don’t know what that means - it means the grad research assistants get a stipend, tuition and room and board covered, because the professors are bringing in so much grant money. The stipend doesn’t match what they’d make in the private sector, but it’s good enough to keep them in the system to finish out their degree)

 

GMU gets a bad rep as a school from people in NOVA but they had a badass CS department. 

 

if you can code and handle the math it’s great fun and a hell of a path to go down. 

 

add:

i say math but that’s probably way dated information now. The integration of genetic algorithms (new when I was in it), the mapping of the human brain, the huge advances they’ve made in vision and NLP… there’s probably a lot of wiggle room to be involved in the field without being strong in math. Anything related to cognitive processes (biological or otherwise) is needed. And of course engineering - a lot of what’s holding up robotics (in my mind) is the need to make better physical components (and smaller) 

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[Renegade7]

"Look at this advanced technology we've developed and now is everywhere...finally we can..hey, what are you doing???"

[Califan007 The Constipated]

 

It just keeps evolving...

 

 

 

[tshile]

Curious what the level of liability is for those kids. 
 

Kicked out of school?

charged with a crime?

can their parents be sued?

 

if it was my child someone did that to I’d be chasing every form of punishment possible. Once naked pictures of you are on the internet, they’re never going away. That becomes a lifelong issue. And it’s not like it’s reasonable to think someone just needs to explain they’re fake, for their whole life. 

[Skins24]

Should this go in the Musk thread?

 

Musk's Turn to Sue

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Elon Musk is suing OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman over what he says is a betrayal of the ChatGPT maker's founding aims of benefiting humanity rather than pursuing profits.

In a lawsuit filed at San Francisco Superior Court, billionaire Musk said that when he bankrolled OpenAI's creation, he secured an agreement with Altman and Greg Brockman, the president, to keep the AI company as a nonprofit that would develop technology for the benefit of the public.

Under its founding agreement, OpenAI would also make its code open to the public instead of walling it off for any private company's gains, the lawsuit says.

However, by embracing a close relationship with Microsoft, OpenAI and its top executives have set that pact “aflame” and are “perverting” the company's mission, Musk alleges in the lawsuit.

OpenAI declined to comment on the lawsuit Friday.

“OpenAI, Inc. has been transformed into a closed-source de facto subsidiary of the largest technology company in the world: Microsoft,” the lawsuit filed Thursday says. “Under its new Board, it is not just developing but is actually refining an AGI to maximize profits for Microsoft, rather than for the benefit of humanity."

.....

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

On 2/28/2024 at 9:19 AM, tshile said:

Curious what the level of liability is for those kids. 
 

Kicked out of school?

charged with a crime?

can their parents be sued?

 

if it was my child someone did that to I’d be chasing every form of punishment possible. Once naked pictures of you are on the internet, they’re never going away. That becomes a lifelong issue. And it’s not like it’s reasonable to think someone just needs to explain they’re fake, for their whole life. 

 

 

"...the school district would punish the student perpetrators in accordance with the district’s policies. For now, he said, those students have been removed from the school pending the results of the district’s investigation. Then, [...]student perpetrators will be punished with anything from suspension to expulsion, depending on their level of involvement in creating and disseminating the images."

 

I would sue the kids (or I suppose their parents) for my kid's pain and suffering...every kid who created the fakes and/or shared them, all getting sued. Not even sure that's legally possible lol...but I'd find me a Saul Goodman who would take the case with zeal and find all sorts of loopholes to exploit. Kids get expelled and their moms and dads each have to pay me $5,000?...yeah, that **** will register with them.

 

Ironically, though, I wouldn't even slightly sweat it if like a single solitary kid did it and never, EVER showed it to anyone else, just kept it to himself...nobody's harmed because nobody knows the fakes even exist. Which of course means I wouldn't know lol...but more importantly my kid wouldn't know, and none of their friends or classmates would know. But the nanosecond they try to turn it into anything even a minuscule amount more than that, I'm raining hell down on them. 

[tshile]

1 hour ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

Ironically, though, I wouldn't even slightly sweat it if like a single solitary kid did it and never, EVER showed it to anyone else, just kept it to himself...nobody's harmed because nobody knows the fakes even exist

This is not true. Unless the kids write their own system. 
 

which is not what anyone in high school (or really otherwise) is doing. They’re using a cloud system so that means the original and whatever was produced, exists in that system, and who knows what happens at that point. Potentially the damage is done. Given the way the internet porn industry works, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they wind up on all those sites. 
 

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

1 hour ago, tshile said:

This is not true. Unless the kids write their own system. 
 

which is not what anyone in high school (or really otherwise) is doing. They’re using a cloud system so that means the original and whatever was produced, exists in that system, and who knows what happens at that point. Potentially the damage is done. Given the way the internet porn industry works, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they wind up on all those sites. 
 

 

 

 

Well, **** then lol...the article said that the girls' faces were superimposed on the nude bodies of other women, and that the school (or the police, whichever) didn't say how they determined that AI was used, so I assumed that it was just a Photoshop job.

[The Evil Genius]

 

The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present.

 

 

Who the hell thought putting AI in charge of whether or not we went to war was a good idea? lol...hell, I can't even get AI to render hands correctly half the time.

[Cooked Crack]

https://www.threads.net/@faizsays/post/C4J93GFN4Yf/

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OpenAI posts response to Elon Musk lawsuit claiming Musk was on-board with its for-profit model provided the company “merge with Tesla” or grant him full control“In early February 2018, Elon forwarded us an email suggesting that OpenAI should ‘attach to Tesla as its cash cow’, commenting that it was ‘exactly right… Tesla is the only path that could even hope to hold a candle to Google’”The page has since been taken down

 

https://www.threads.net/@ryangheath/post/C4J7wFzItCd/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

 

[Skins24]

15 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

Musk spilling Illuminati secrets over email?

 

For shame!

[CousinsCowgirl84]

On 3/1/2024 at 4:41 PM, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

Who the hell thought putting AI in charge of whether or not we went to war was a good idea? lol...hell, I can't even get AI to render hands correctly half the time.

I think by the time ai gets deployed like this ai will want to disable the enemies AI first. Once both AIs are destroyed the they won’t be able to choose nukes…

[China]

 

[Skins24]

1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

I think by the time ai gets deployed like this ai will want to disable the enemies AI first. Once both AIs are destroyed the they won’t be able to choose nukes…

 

This isn't talked about enough. AI vs AI warfare, with us lowly humans caught in the middle. Who's our Neo?

[CousinsCowgirl84]

2 hours ago, Skins24 said:

 

This isn't talked about enough. AI vs AI warfare, with us lowly humans caught in the middle. Who's our Neo?

Where have you been? Only Elon can save us.

 

[tshile]

Wait till there’s an app for these VR goggles that makes everyone you look at nude 

[China]

16 minutes ago, tshile said:

Wait till there’s an app for these VR goggles that makes everyone you look at nude 

 

They've had that for decades:

 

[DCSaints_fan]

On 2/22/2024 at 2:23 PM, tshile said:

 It to mention AI is this overly gross collection of components. 
computer vision

machine learning

natural language processing 

expert systems 

speach recognition

AI planning

 

Any one of those is pretty ****ing hard and complicated. Most try to specialize, to be an expert on one or two, and generally understand the others. 
 

it’s just too much ****ing work for a 4 year degree without considering a balanced curriculum of other gen ed requirements, and prerequisites. And to put that on a 18/19/20 year old living alone for the first time?

lol

Some of the image processing/signal processig does require some fairly heavy math.

But things like understanding ANNs, which are used frequently all over the place, for classifiers (also speech recognition) isn't really that hard.  Its basically just a big matrix multiplication. And after that, getting the right labelled data, tweaking parameters and testing the model. A lot of grunt work

 

The challenges are just having the right data and the economic cost of storage/retrieval.   That's why there's been such a big resurgence after it was dormant since the early 90s.  We now have the dat, processing power and storage

 

The basic models haven't changed all that much since backpropogation was discovered I 1986. yeah, they came out with CNNs (convolutionalneural networks).  But those are really just an extension to account for image offset/rotation/scale.  Its mostly a case of "we now have the hardware"

[China]

World’s first major act to regulate AI passed by European lawmakers

 

The European Union’s parliament on Wednesday approved the world’s first major set of regulatory ground rules to govern the mediatized artificial intelligence at the forefront of tech investment.

 

The EU brokered provisional political consensus in early December, and it was then endorsed in the Parliament’s Wednesday session, with 523 votes in favour, 46 against and 49 votes not cast.

 

“Europe is NOW a global standard-setter in AI,” Thierry Breton, the European Commissioner for internal market, wrote on X.

 

President of the European Parliament, Roberta Metsola, described the act as trail-blazing, saying it would enable innovation, while safeguarding fundamental rights.

 

“Artificial intelligence is already very much part of our daily lives. Now, it will be part of our legislation too,” she wrote in a social media post.

 

Dragos Tudorache, a lawmaker who oversaw EU negotiations of the agreement, hailed the agreement, but noted that the biggest hurdle remains implementation.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[tshile]

The EU leads the world in data privacy laws as well. 
 

It’s yet another sign of how dysfunctional our government is.