Anti-Vaxxer thread (New York Reports 1st Polio Case in Nearly a Decade)

[Captain Wiggles]

Don't get the big pharma vaccine because it just enriches them. Instead get the infusion therapy from big pharma. 🤦‍♂️

 

Wonder what companies he owns stock in. Oh well at least he got his grits for breakfast. 

Edited October 11, 2021 by clietas

[Riggo-toni]

My in-laws are anti-vaxers... Not just covid, but my brother in law's wife won't be giving their children any vaccines.  She is pregnant with their second, and they are debating whether my brother in law needs to quit his job rather than comply with the mandate (presumably meaning she would rather risk giving birth without insurance than have him get the covid vaccine).

Likewise my wife's sister is possibly going to quit (she is a teacher) rather than get the covid vaccine....You can take the girl out of Arkansas, but you can't fix redneck.

[Larry]

14 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said:

My in-laws are anti-vaxers... Not just covid, but my brother in law's wife won't be giving their children any vaccines.  She is pregnant with their second, and they are debating whether my brother in law needs to quit his job rather than comply with the mandate (presumably meaning she would rather risk giving birth without insurance than have him get the covid vaccine).

Likewise my wife's sister is possibly going to quit (she is a teacher) rather than get the covid vaccine....You can take the girl out of Arkansas, but you can't fix redneck.

As a few posts above yours point out, some people actually would rather die themselves, (not just kill other people), rather than admit that they were wrong. 

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[dfitzo53]

Anybody else find it weird that these anti-vaxxers keep dying of covid? It's like they're being targeted by the disease or something.

[Larry]

3 minutes ago, dfitzo53 said:

Anybody else find it weird that these anti-vaxxers keep dying of covid? It's like they're being targeted by the disease or something.

 

Biden should get off his butt and do something about it.  

[Renegade7]

Interesting...

 

 

[China]

Jim Jordan Makes His Move to Be the Most Bat**** Anti-Vaxxer of All

 

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan has seen Greg Abbott’s insane coronavirus vaccine mandate ban and raised the Texas governor seven more deadly diseases, tweeting that “Ohio should ban all vaccine mandates.”

 

It’s disturbing but not surprising that when the Republican Party is having a race to the bottom, someone’s going to scrape it. It’s no surprise at all when that someone turns out to be Jordan, who thinks rolling up his shirt sleeves when the cameras are on marks him as Everyman, albeit one who’s been accused of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse during his former career as a wrestling coach at Ohio State University.

 

It’s awfully quiet inside Jordan’s head, without the clanging from Republicans who are OK with every other vaccine but dead set against mandating this one to help stop the spread of a disease that’s still killing nearly 2,000 Americans a day for the simple reason that their base hates anything elites want, no matter how sensible or helpful. He’s resolved the dilemma by objecting to all of them.

 

Fortunately, Jordan’s words were just that, and responsible parents all over the Buckeye state had already delivered their children to the first day of classes fully immunized against polio; measles, mumps and rubella; chickenpox; hepatitis B; meningococcal disease; and diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis, as required by its its health department.

 

Still, it was enough for Jordan to claim the rhetorical lead in the wild competition among red-state officials to take the most radical position possible. But one reason Jordan is talking so wildly is that unlike many of his rivals who have real power, he only has Twitter.

 

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[China]

Why these Oregonians are willing to lose their jobs by refusing COVID-19 vaccines

 

They are state troopers, nurses, doctors, school bus drivers, teachers, high-school football coaches and yes -- according to state records -- even employees at the Oregon Health Authority, the agency tasked with fighting the pandemic.

 

The one thing all have in common? They are opposed to getting vaccinated against COVID-19, despite an approaching deadline Monday requiring hundreds of thousands of state executive branch employees, healthcare workers and K-12 educators be fully inoculated.

 

These holdouts comprise an unknown but likely small portion of the roughly 800,000 adults statewide who have yet to get a least one shot.

 

In announcing her mandates in August, Gov. Kate Brown reiterated what top public health experts in Oregon and nationwide have said: Vaccinations are safe and highly effective at preventing hospitalizations and death.

 

“The only way we can stop the spread of COVID-19 for good is through vaccination,” she said.

 

Some against the vaccine mandate have received religious or medical exceptions. But others are at risk of losing their jobs or have already left them.

 

The Oregonian/OregonLive interviewed three such workers. Here are their stories.

 

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[China]

While COVID still rages, anti-vaccine activists will gather for a big conference

 

The coronavirus pandemic continues to claim thousands of lives a week — mostly people who aren't vaccinated. But that's not stopping a major gathering of anti-vaccine advocates and conspiracy theorists in Nashville, Tenn., this weekend.

 

The event is being orchestrated by Tennessee couple Ty and Charlene Bollinger. They have been labeled as some of the nation's biggest vaccine misinformation superspreaders.

 

"If we're superspreaders, we're superspreaders of the truth," Charlene Bollinger says. "We have countless testimonies of people that are alive today because of our work, and this is straight from heaven. God has put us on this Earth for such a time as this."

 

The Bollingers got their start by promoting unproven alternatives to chemotherapy. Then they cashed in on their DVDs that push falsehoods about vaccines.

 

Charlene Bollinger calls Tennessee an ideal place to host an event like this one. She says the state has recently become home to many conservative pundits who have questioned aspects of the COVID-19 vaccine, as well as vaccine mandates.

 

"Right here in Tennessee, now we've got Candace Owens, we've got Ben Shapiro, Tomi Lahren," she says. "A lot of local freedom fighters."

 

While the event is called The Truth About Cancer, it will cover much more than that — from vaccine conspiracy theories to falsehoods about the 2020 election.

 

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I hope it becomes a superspreader event and they all kill each other off.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by China

[Renegade7]

Sounds like a chicken pox party, have fun with that...

[China]

Anti-vaxxers spread vicious lies about couple who died of Covid and left five children orphaned

 

Anti-vaxxers have called the death of a Virginia couple with five children from Covid-19 “fake news”, according to their devastated family.

 

Unvaccinated Covid sceptics Misty and Kevin Mitchem died just weeks apart after they both fell ill with the virus, and both regretted not getting the shots on their death beds, say relatives.

 

But that has not stopped people online claiming that their deaths are a hoax, says Mr Mitchem’s younger brother.

 

“Why would the media make up a story this tragic? I would give anything for it to not be true, just to have my brother back,” Mike Mitchem told The Washington Post.

 

Ms Mitchem, 46, and her 48-year-old husband were both sceptical about Covid-19 and took in a lot of online misinformation about the virus.

“He liked to listen to different memes he would see — or different people saying … Covid is not real,” added Mike Mitchem.

 

“I remember him telling me … ‘I ain’t ever going to get it. It ain’t going to happen to me.’”

 

Ms Mitchem was placed on a ventilator in hospital on 19 September and died just two days later, while her husband died on 8 October.

 

“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told the newspaper.

 

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Language spicy

 

 

[China]

^^^^^These are the people Garland was looking to investigate.  He needs to go after them, and hard.  Frankly, this is domestic terrorism.

[Captain Wiggles]

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"I don't condone violence but we need to start shooting people."

 

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh totally how sane people act. 😬

 

[Llevron]

28 minutes ago, China said:

^^^^^These are the people Garland was looking to investigate.  He needs to go after them, and hard.  Frankly, this is domestic terrorism.

We got people talking about not pushing people like this out of society….and how we are all on the same side. 
 

Sorry but I’m not in the side that’s talking about burning schools to the ground. I’m not. Never will be. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Llevron

[China]

 

New York firefighters suspended after threatening state senator's staff over vaccine mandate while on duty

 

Four New York City firefighters have been suspended after driving their truck to a state senator's office while on duty, asking for the politician's home address and telling him the city would have "blood on its hands" over the city's vaccine mandate.

 

The group, from Ladder 113 in Brooklyn, went to the office of state Sen. Zellnor Myrie in the company's fire district in uniform and asked to speak to him, although as a state official he had no involvement in the city mandate from Mayor Bill de Blasio.

 

All city personnel, including firefighters, must have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine by the time they show up to work on Monday. Those who do not get vaccinated will be placed on unpaid leave.

 

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[China]

The world's first anti-vaccination movement spread fears of half-cow babies

 

In the early 19th century, British people finally had access to the first vaccine in history, one that promised to protect them from smallpox, among the deadliest diseases of the era. Many Britons were skeptical of the vaccine, however, with fears extending well beyond the fatigue and sore arm that go along with many modern shots. The side effects they dreaded were far more terrifying: blindness, deafness, ulcers, a gruesome skin condition called "cowpox mange" - even sprouting hoofs and horns.

 

With that, the world's first anti-vaccination movement was born.

 

Just as quickly as doctors heralded Edward Jenner's revolutionary 1796 discovery that the deadly smallpox virus could be prevented with a cowpox vaccine, some Brits met the news with a superstitious distrust that bordered on hysteria. Opposition to vaccination would grow and evolve over the next 100 years to become one of the largest mass movements of 19th-century Britain. People refused the vaccine for medical, religious and even political reasons - plunging the nation into a debate that would rage for generations and foreshadow current coronavirus vaccine conspiracy theories.

 

"It was an enormous mass movement, and it built on many traditions, intellectual and otherwise, about liberty," said Frank Snowden, a historian of medicine at Yale University. "There was a rejection of vaccination on political grounds that was widely considered as another form of tyranny."

 

Yet Britons had been living under a viral tyranny for much longer. By the turn-of-the- 19th-century, smallpox had ravaged much of the world. In Europe, some 400,000 people were believed to die annually from the disease. Those who did survive were often permanently disfigured.

 

The turning point came - or at least ought to have come - when Jenner discovered that dairymaids were often protected from smallpox because of their exposure to the less dangerous cowpox. He conducted an experiment to test his hypothesis that exposure to this similar disease might protect others from smallpox. He extracted pus from a woman infected with cowpox, injected it into a healthy boy and exposed him to smallpox. The child did not become ill. Similar experiments bore out the same results.

 

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[China]

Maori tribe tells anti-vaxxers to stop using haka

 

The Maori tribe that owns rights to the "Ka Mate" haka told anti-vaccine protesters Monday to stop performing the famous ritual at demonstrations.

 

 

The Ngati Toa -- a tribe or iwi in Maori -- is recognised under New Zealand law as the cultural guardian of the Ka Mate haka, which has featured prominently at recent protests against coronavirus-related restrictions.

 

"Ngati Toa condemns the use of the Ka Mate haka to push and promote anti-Covid-19-vaccination messages," the tribe, based just outside Wellington, said in a statement.

"We insist that protesters stop using our taonga (cultural treasure) immediately."

 

Maori haka come in many forms but Ka Mate -- which has been performed by the All Blacks ahead of rugby Test matches for more than a century -- is by far the best known.

 

The foot-stomping, eye-rolling ritual is firmly entrenched in New Zealand culture and is often used at significant social events such as weddings or funerals.

 

Ka Mate is Ngati Toa's haka, composed by the warrior chief Te Rauparaha around 1820 to celebrate his escape from a rival tribe's pursuing war party. 

 

Parliament passed a law in 2014 recognising Ngati Toa as custodians of the haka, although the legislation does not include penalties if it is misused.

 

The iwi has previously spoken out against commercialisation of the haka and versions that satirise or disrespect the ritual.

 

Ngati Toa chief executive Helmut Modlik criticised anti-vaccine protesters for putting individual wishes ahead of the greater good.

 

"Many of our tupuna (ancestors) lost their lives in previous pandemics and our iwi suffered greatly," he said.

 

"We are absolutely clear that the Covid-19 vaccine is the best protection we have available to us, and we are committed to supporting our whanau (family) to get vaccinated as soon as possible."

 

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[China]

Seven From Anti-Vax Doctors’ COVID Conference Fall Sick Within Days

 

That includes Bruce Boros, who claimed ivermectin was keeping him healthy and said he wanted to smack his own father for getting the vaccine.

 

To hear the fringe doctors who gathered at an equine facility for the Florida COVID Summit earlier this month, ivermectin is as effective against the virus in humans as it is against worms in horses.

 

“I have been on ivermectin for 16 months, my wife and I,” Dr. Bruce Boros declared at the end of the meeting at the World Equestrian Center in Ocala. “I have never felt healthier in my life.”

 

Two days later, the 71-year-old cardiologist fell ill with COVID-19, according to the organizer of the one-day gathering and two other people with direct knowledge.

 

The organizer, Dr. John Littell, further reported to The Daily Beast that six others among the 800 to 900 participants had also tested positive or developed COVID symptoms “within days of the conference.”

 

“People are considering if it was a superspreader event,” Littell said.

 

In the next breath, he dismissed the very thought with an emphatic “No.”

 

Littell conveniently decided that those with COVID were already infected when they arrived at the summit, where no masks or social distancing were in evidence.

 

“I think they had gotten it from New York or Michigan or wherever they were from,” he said. “It was really the people who flew in from other places.”

 

Littell added, “Everybody so far has responded to treatment with ivermectin… Bruce is doing well.”

 

Boros remained seriously ill at his Key West home, according to people who know him but who asked not to be identified. Boros himself did not respond to phone messages and emails.

 

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[China]

Marcus Lamb, 64, Dallas, TX, Televangelist, anti-vaxxer and anti-vaxx promoter, ICU with COVID.

 

According to social media posts (below), Marcus is in the ICU with COVID. This is significant because Marcus is responsible for promoting and spreading more anti-vaxx and pro-alternative treatment disinformation to more people than anyone on sorry-anti-vaxxer so far. In fact, he's claimed that he and his wife Joni have been taking Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, and vitamins and minerals as a preventative. Apparently that didn't work out for him. Marcus and Joni own Daystar Television Network the second largest Christian Network in the World behind CBN. Throughout the pandemic, they have been hosting and promoting the most notorious anti-vaxxers in the world, many of whom are members of the despicable American Frontline Doctors which is being investigated by Congress for fraudulent practices and spreading misinformation. 

 

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[China]

 

[China]

Anti-vax Wayne County Republican is in ICU with COVID-19

 

A Trump-adoring Wayne County Republican who spread misinformation about COVID-19 and the vaccine has been hospitalized in intensive care after contracting the virus.

 

William Hartmann, former vice-chairman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, has been on a ventilator since about Nov. 6, according to his sister Elizabeth Hartmann.

 

Two sources confirmed to Metro Times that Hartmann has been in intensive care since early November.

 

The status of his health is unclear.

 

Hartmann, who refused to certify the county’s election in November 2020 after Joe Biden won, downplayed the coronavirus in a February 2020 Facebook post and questioned “all the hullabaloo in the media about” COVID-19. He suggested it was “about the money.”

 

In the months since then, he has criticized the vaccine and compared government COVID-19 efforts to Nazi Germany.

 

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[China]

How one discredited 1998 study paved the way for today's anti-vaxxers

 

Long before the COVID-19 pandemic and the concomitant vaccine, the anti-vaccination movement was mainly identified with one very specific myth: the idea that vaccines cause autism. 

 

Aside from being patently offensive to neurodiverse and autistic people (including this writer), version 1.0 of the anti-vax movement was also dangerous because its adherents made it easier for infectious diseases to spread. This wasn't just a theoretical fear: local measles outbreaks in places like Disneyland that occurred with greater frequency throughout the 2010s were tied to the increasing number of anti-vaxxers, who had collectively lowered the herd immunity numbers for diseases like measles which were once nearly eradicated in the United States. 

 

Now that COVID-19 has changed the world, it is worth reexamining the legacy of that autism-related controversy, which may have proven to be the "original sin" that led us to this dismal moment in which anti-COVID-vaccination misinformation is rife. That means turning our eye to the inglorious career of a man named Andrew Wakefield.

 

Once a British doctor, Wakefield is infamous for being the lead author of a 1998 case series that studied links between autism and digestive conditions — and, he claimed, documented changes in behavior in children who were given the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine (MMR vaccine). Over time, this mutated into a claim that MMR vaccines could cause autism, prompting an international panic. 

 

Because Wakefield's study had been published in a distinguished medical journal (The Lancet), his claims quickly circulated and influenced millions of parents to not let their children get vaccinated at an age when, they believed erroneously, they could be at risk of developing autism. This trend persisted despite the fine print within the study: notably, it included no data about the MMR vaccine, its conclusions were speculative, it had been poorly designed, and the researchers had only studied a small sample of patients.

 

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