Now that the draft is over... Predict your 2013 Washington Redskins 53 man roster!

[DC9]

NT (2): Cofield, Brace

DE (4): Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Merlin

OLB (4): Orakpo, Kerrigan, Jackson, B. Jenkins

ILB (3): Fletcher, Riley, Robinson

CB (5): Hall, Wilson, Amerson, Biggers, Crawford

FS (3): Jammer, Lynch, Rambo

SS (3): Meriweather, Doughty, Thomas

Wood signed elsewhere... no promise he survives their cuts, but still.

Also... 6 safeties? Who is going to play teams? No Tapp or Kehl? Thin at ILB with a 38 year old starter... and only one LB (Robinson) who can swing ILB and OLB.

Not trying to dog you... you have a lot of good players on there but we aren't really grooming anyone on teams. That'll be a problem down the road.

Also, I appreciate and respect you going big on the predicted Jammer and Lynch signings, but I would bet against it. And I'm as big a Lynch guy as you are going to find on the board.

---------- Post added April-30th-2013 at 09:24 PM ----------

I don't think the Skins areas of need are the places UDFAs tend to stick so I think the roster is pretty close to set. Some of them will make the PS though.

Agreed. Though I feel one or two will make it. I think a WR has a shot and one of the LBs may surprise if some of the vets aren't in it or if there is an injury.

TE

Davis, Paulson, Cook, Paul

Would've loved Jared Cook but I think you meant Reed No bigs, lol.

I love your O-line picks. They make sense.

And your defense makes a lot of sense, too.

My favorite one yet. Though I'd be surprised if we kept both Kehl an Tapp, but it's entirely possible. Remember, Kehl can play both.

[MrJL]

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My favorite one yet. Though I'd be surprised if we kept both Kehl an Tapp, but it's entirely possible. Remember, Kehl can play both.

Tapp apparently is good on teams from what I've heard and Jackson is suspended for four games. I figured we wouldn't want just one OLB backup and a rookie at that. And I believe Tapp is more of a rusher than Kehl would be. Of course Tapp could be the guy who just sticks for four games, but it's a new system and position for him so he'll be getting a lot of reps and I just figure he'll have a lot of opportunity to establish himself until Jackson gets back

I'm curious about this guy Burdette at ILB but he can probably go to the PS.

[kingdaddy]

What about Phillip Merling or that Rob Brace we signed as a FA from New England? Both are d-linemen. I'd think one or both will make the team.

[Voice_of_Reason]

I might have missed that. I thought it was going to take longer since he practically tore everything there is to tear in a knee. I'd love it if he were back though.

It's hard to trust what Shanahan says publicly especially about a project player like Paul. I don't think the FO will have any problem paying Davis next offseason if he shows he can stay healthy this year. The Reed pick is insurance for Davis obviously, but also was a plan to evolve the offense with Reed and Davis on the field. Paul like Banks needs to show he can contribute as something more than a special teams tackler to earn a roster spot and I am not sure he has.

I'll poke around to see, and I might be mixing him up with somebody, but I thought he said he would be back for the start of training camp.

It's true, you never know with a project. But he gave Sharpe time to develop, and he's raving about Paul's skills. If anything, this draft pick will have to motivate him. He has to prove that he can be productive at TE.

The one thing he's got going for him, which has nothing to do with what Shanahan has said, is that he's a beast on ST. And Mike has a tendency to keep those guys around. So, that's in his corner.

But he's got to develop as a pass-catching and blocking TE. One of the TEs is going to get hurt and miss some time, and he needs to be able to fill in. If he can't, then he's going to find himself on the outside looking in, but I don't think that will happen until 2014.

[gorebd82]

Wood signed elsewhere... no promise he survives their cuts, but still.

Also... 6 safeties? Who is going to play teams? No Tapp or Kehl? Thin at ILB with a 38 year old starter... and only one LB (Robinson) who can swing ILB and OLB.

Not trying to dog you... you have a lot of good players on there but we aren't really grooming anyone on teams. That'll be a problem down the road.

Also, I appreciate and respect you going big on the predicted Jammer and Lynch signings, but I would bet against it. And I'm as big a Lynch guy as you are going to find on the board.

Didn't know about Wood. Wouldnt be surprised to see two RBs on the PS to prevent a team from scooping up a guy like Jamison to steal Shanny's next gem. Make them have to choose. I think Boyce makes the PS if he's eligible.

As for the 6 safeties, one of them is Jammer so it's more like 5 CBs 5 safeties and one swing guy. It will be interesting to see if we still target those SD guys. They're still out there and I don't think we can go into the season with 2 rookies as the entire FS depth.

As for Tapp, I think he initially makes the squad in Rob Jackson's spot, but I don't know if he'll show enough to beat out the upside of Jenkins or make us keep 5 OLBs when Rob returns. I kept Niles and Doughty as the ST studs. Kehl is my 54th man. I see him making the squad if we don't get Lynch and/or Jammer. I could also see him making it over one of the RTs so we go Compton and the best of the vet group with Hurt as the emergency tackle. Basically, I think that one player needs to go from the groups of 10 OL, 11 DB, 8 LB.

Just some insight into my thinking.

[terpfan]

Didn't know about Wood. Wouldnt be surprised to see two RBs on the PS to prevent a team from scooping up a guy like Jamison to steal Shanny's next gem. Make them have to choose. I think Boyce makes the PS if he's eligible.

As for the 6 safeties, one of them is Jammer so it's more like 5 CBs 5 safeties and one swing guy. It will be interesting to see if we still target those SD guys. They're still out there and I don't think we can go into the season with 2 rookies as the entire FS depth.

As for Tapp, I think he initially makes the squad in Rob Jackson's spot, but I don't know if he'll show enough to beat out the upside of Jenkins or make us keep 5 OLBs when Rob returns. I kept Niles and Doughty as the ST studs. Kehl is my 54th man. I see him making the squad if we don't get Lynch and/or Jammer. I could also see him making it over one of the RTs so we go Compton and the best of the vet group with Hurt as the emergency tackle. Basically, I think that one player needs to go from the groups of 10 OL, 11 DB, 8 LB.

Just some insight into my thinking.

I like where your heads at but there's no way we keep 11 DBs and only 7 LBs. Doesnt happen. Especially when one of those LBs (Jackson) is suspended the first 4 games. (although I'm actually assuming he won't count against the roster limit until week 5 - I believe that was the case with Griffin last year.)

[DC9]

Tapp apparently is good on teams from what I've heard and Jackson is suspended for four games. I figured we wouldn't want just one OLB backup and a rookie at that. And I believe Tapp is more of a rusher than Kehl would be. Of course Tapp could be the guy who just sticks for four games, but it's a new system and position for him so he'll be getting a lot of reps and I just figure he'll have a lot of opportunity to establish himself until Jackson gets back

I'm curious about this guy Burdette at ILB but he can probably go to the PS.

To me, it makes sense to have Burdette on the 53, so he can see what it takes to prepare. I'm not sure he'll have access to all of that while on the PS. He's a bomber against the run but is weak in pass pro. Probably didn't need it much at his level of college football, so reps are important.

You are probably right, good point. We could keep both Tapp and Kehl. Heck, we may keep both all season depending on how the secondary battles go. Tapp can also cut it loose on third down and get around a tackle fairly well in a pinch.

I love your d-line though. 3 NTs and no Golston? We can have a drink together now and talk about some exotic packages with the big men pushing the middle of the pocket, hahaha.

---------- Post added May-1st-2013 at 10:53 AM ----------

What about Phillip Merling or that Rob Brace we signed as a FA from New England? Both are d-linemen. I'd think one or both will make the team.

I think it's between Brace, Merling, and Golston. Keep an eye on that battle. Golston was strong in the 4-3, but he's stunk it up in Okie and in sub packages. He's good on teams, but we'll see what the new coordinator can do with Merling/Brace. I have a feeling Danny Smith was a little too loyal with some of these guys.

[Spunkush]

QB: RG3, Cousins, RG3

RB: Morris, Jamison, Thompson, Helu

FB: Young

WR: Garçon, Morgan, Hank, Moss, Robinson

TE: Davis, Reed, Paulsen, Paul

OT: Trent, Compton, Hurt, Pashos,

OG: Chester, Leberius, Gettis, licht

C: Montgomery, Sundberg

(27)

DE: Jenkins, carriker, Bowen, Gholston

NT: Corfield, Baker

OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Jackson

ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Robinson, M. burdett

CB: Wilson, Hall, Biggers, Amerson, Crawford

SS: Meriweather, Thomas, Doughty

FS: Rambo, Pugh

(24)

K: Forbath

P: Rocca

(53)

PS: Xavier Nixon (OT), Josh Jarobe (WR), Possibly Jamison if Helu comes to camp at 100%

I guess Tapp will make the team while Jackson is on suspension. I think Burdett makes it over kehl. I also think that Helu is still hurt so we carry 4 RBs. Shanny already said we will have 4 TEs, and Reed and Paul act as a 6th WR. I think Thomas may start at FS, but will eventually move to SS with Rambo at FS. I dont think Jackson comes back.

But my guess is as good as yours

[DC9]

I also think that Helu is still hurt so we carry 4 RBs.

We could PUP Helu. If it turns out we don't need him, we can IR him one more year. If the rooks don't fair well... we PS squad one of them and then bring Lu off of the PUP.

[MrJL]

I love your d-line though. 3 NTs and no Golston? We can have a drink together now and talk about some exotic packages with the big men pushing the middle of the pocket, hahaha.

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I like Golston, I always like blue collar type players. But looking at the other guys they have I figured like this; Brace is bigger, based on draft positioning Merling probably has more upside, Doug Worthington is essentially the same guy as Golston and younger so he costs a little less. Between all that I think Golston would have to play to the level of a starter to keep his spot.

I think there was some point during Neild's rookie year we had all three of them on the active roster and carrying an extra NT lets Cofield rotate out to DE on occasion without too much worry so it deepens out all around rotation.

---------- Post added May-1st-2013 at 05:31 PM ----------

C: Montgomery, Sundberg

Sundberg will make the team obviously, but he won't back up at C. He only weighs 251. Most modern long snappers are LB/TE sized

[skinny21]

Niles Paul was our second best ST player last year. Lorenzo was the best and he's gone so there is absolutely no chance that he gets dropped from the team. Thinking otherwise is crazy.

Theoretically, Doughty and Paul could both be gone as they both have guys pushing them, though I doubt it. Especially with a new ST coach - it'd be pretty wrong to start him off that way. I'd give Paul a 50/50 chance to make it and Doughty more like 75+%.

I wonder if Bernstine gets put on the PS and I expect Gomes to be cut. The 4th DE spot and the Nield/Baker should be good one battles as well as RT. Looking forward to camp!

[Spunkush]

Sundberg will make the team obviously, but he won't back up at C. He only weighs 251. Most modern long snappers are LB/TE sized

Yeah I understand that. I just put him there, I feel like our backup C will be leribus, who will swing between G and C. I've noticed that shanny values swing guys more, that's why Hurt makes the team.

[DC9]

I like Golston, I always like blue collar type players. But looking at the other guys they have I figured like this; Brace is bigger, based on draft positioning Merling probably has more upside, Doug Worthington is essentially the same guy as Golston and younger so he costs a little less. Between all that I think Golston would have to play to the level of a starter to keep his spot.

I think there was some point during Neild's rookie year we had all three of them on the active roster and carrying an extra NT lets Cofield rotate out to DE on occasion without too much worry so it deepens out all around rotation.

I agree on all of the points about the NT position. For me, Cofield has the best feet, Baker has the best push, and Neild does the best job of not being moved off of his spot... so they each give you something good. Personally I like Baker and Neild the best, but Cofield is important in his own right and he's a great leader.

But I will never understand anyone's on-the-field value for Golston outside of what Danny Smith like about him for teams (even then I scratch my head). He was just so bad against the run. Almost everytime he went in defenses ran to his side and he would get used. Especially when RJax started setting the edge really well, that cutback lan was "Highway 64" headed right down to the beach.

---------- Post added May-2nd-2013 at 09:36 AM ----------

Yeah I understand that. I just put him there, I feel like our backup C will be leribus, who will swing between G and C. I've noticed that shanny values swing guys more, that's why Hurt makes the team.

Hahaha, yeah I initally commented on your post that you didn't have a long snapper... then I edited that post out after I saw you had him at backup C. So I'm with everyone else who says, he shouldn't be listed on the o-line... but I understand why you did it.

[TheGreek1973]

What sucks is the injury to RGIII is forcing us to keep 3 QBs. Also I know we like the long snapper but man I hate it when one guy takes a roster position just for that.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

..... Also I know we like the long snapper but man I hate it when one guy takes a roster position just for that.

Yeah, it's frustrating as all heck making sure we get punts and FG's off without a hitch .....

Hail.

[TheGreek1973]

Yeah, it's frustrating as all heck making sure we get punts and FG's off without a hitch .....

Hail.

In your attempt of sarcasm, you hit the nail on the head. That is the frustrating part. We need to have one. I didn't say cut him did I?

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

That you didn't Greek.

I just find it highly amusing the continued undervaluing, in terms of the lack of time they spend on the field in relation to 'regular' players; that specialists receive from many way above your post here. Similar discussions this past draft as to why you'd ever draft one.

In a game of inches and close games, kickers and punters are every bit as valuable in many respects as the multi-million dollar glamour guys. And a reliable LS falls into that same bracket.

Hail.

[TheGreek1973]

That you didn't Greek.

I just find it highly amusing the continued undervaluing, in terms of the lack of time they spend on the field in relation to 'regular' players; that specialists receive from many way above your post here. Similar discussions this past draft as to why you'd ever draft one.

In a game of inches and close games, kickers and punters are every bit as valuable in many respects as the multi-million dollar glamour guys. And a reliable LS falls into that same bracket.

Hail.

yeap and i agree with you. hell if I had a son playing OL I would tell him practice extra hard and learn how to be LS also because that makes you even more valuable.

[MrJL]

yeap and i agree with you. hell if I had a son playing OL I would tell him practice extra hard and learn how to be LS also because that makes you even more valuable.

I don't think he'd make it. LIke I said before snappers are frequently much smaller than the average lineman, LB/TE size.

[turlockskinsfan]

QB- RG3, Cousins, Rex

RB- Morris, Helu, Jamison, Thompson

FB- Young

WR- Garcon, Hankerson, Morgan, Moss, Robinson, Jarboe

TE- Davis, Paulsen, Reed, Paul

T- Williams, Compton, Polumbus

G- Lichtensteiger, Chester, Leribeus, Gettis, Sparrow Hurt

C- Montgomery

(27)

DE- Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Brace(NT also)

NT- Cofield, Baker

OLB- Orakpo, Kerrigan, Jackson, Jenkins

ILB- Fletcher, Riley, Robinson, Muckelroy

CB- Hall, Wilson, Amerson, Biggers, Murphy

FS- Pugh, Rambo

SS- Merriweather, Thomas, Doughty

(24)

K- Forbath

P- Rocca

(2)

IR Minnefield, Bernstine

PS?

[MrJL]

come on folks, all modern NFL teams carry a long snapper. An LS is more important than the sixth WR or the 10th DB or OL

[PlayAction]

I just want to see these guys compete. Will the draftees show potential or will some be seen as early busts? How many of the veterans will be on hold until injury status can be determined? Who says preseason can't be fun?

[turlockskinsfan]

come on folks, all modern NFL teams carry a long snapper. An LS is more important than the sixth WR or the 10th DB or OL

Nice call, so excited for football season that I forgot about Sundberg. Goodbye Niles Paul.

[MrJL]

Nice call, so excited for football season that I forgot about Sundberg. Goodbye Niles Paul.

considering back up tight ends double as backup FBs and the Skins will play a lot of 2 TE I think three TEs is a little low. Especially since you have 10 OL and Shanny has been known to go with 8 rather than the more traditional 9. It's possible, but I doubt it.

[Voice_of_Reason]

I might have missed that. I thought it was going to take longer since he practically tore everything there is to tear in a knee. I'd love it if he were back though.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/04/11/jordan-bernstine-targeting-training-camp-return-date/

That is the story that I was thinking of. He says he's targeting camp. I'm not sure what that means, but that's where I read it.

---------- Post added May-3rd-2013 at 08:31 AM ----------

You have us cutting some guys like EJ Biggers, Chris Chester, Tyler Polumbus, Golston, Gomes, Niles Paul, Royster, and Pugh.

Not all of these would shock me, but cutting Biggers and Chester would.

GHH, Some of that is wishful thinking on your part, but it aint going to happen. Chester is not going anywhere, Polumbus has the inside track to starting RT. And Paul is going to make the team, and there are going ot be a lot of people unhappy about it. But he's going to make the 53.

Gomes/Royster/Pugh, yeah, those guys might all be gone.

---------- Post added May-3rd-2013 at 08:32 AM ----------

You have us cutting some guys like EJ Biggers, Chris Chester, Tyler Polumbus, Golston, Gomes, Niles Paul, Royster, and Pugh.

Not all of these would shock me, but cutting Biggers and Chester would.

GHH, Some of that is wishful thinking on your part, but it aint going to happen. Chester is not going anywhere, Polumbus has the inside track to starting RT. And Paul is going to make the team, and there are going ot be a lot of people unhappy about it. But he's going to make the 53.

Gomes/Royster/Pugh, yeah, those guys might all be gone.