jservs7 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 WTH? (Double post?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Maybe it's me. Maybe it's not. The media here in DC seem to disect the teams horrible secondary every week..without mentioning loud mouth DeAngelo Hall. Why is this? Am I the only one who thinks he is hot garbage as a football player? He runs his mouth and struts around with swag and yet gets fried every game. I'll take Wilson and Williams getting fried any day .. over Hall. Because they dont strut, talk crap and dont try to instigate trouble on the field. They dont TALK .. they try. Hall doesnt want to get dirty. He's allergic to the dirt/ground. He's all mouth. Yet the DC media refuses to call this guy out? why? Fear? Nothing worse than a horrible player with big mouth. A little public humiliation is in order. :mad: If I were Shanny or Snyder, I'd have an ad in the Washington Post Classifieds this morning: HELP WANTED: Pro Football team Washington Redskins are looking for a secondary that has heart, isn't afraid to hit / get dirty. No Exp Nesc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jservs7 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'll say big mouth / average You wonder how he would look out there at times with a better DB core, but he has looked pretty awful in routine situations when it comes to defending WRs at times. Still, he could use some help out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm finished with D-Hall. This guy sucks.He starts celebrating after a receiver drops a pass like he just made a great play or something. He constantly gets turned like a top and plays 10 yards off his man at all times. gtfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHog Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If he could just play smart (e.g. no late hits) and keep his mouth shut I'd be fine with him, but he does so much stupid crap it's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 our burnt toast secondary has had so many "fireable offsenses" its unreal. The only reason these clowns aren't bagging groceries is because we don't have anyone better to replace them with. Wait, is this the knee jerk thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 You forgot big ass contract that he hasn't justified for over two years now. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hopefully this will be his last season in B&G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's funny. Last week I mentioned how D Hall needs to be quiet and just get back to the huddle and not contiually be in peoples face jawing and there was alot of backlash. I would like to see him (and our other CB's) not give such a cushion so much (but that is more scheme than player) and I would like him to not push getting unsportsmanlike conduct flags, but other than those 2 things I'm ok with Hall. He isnt great and getting paid more than he is worth, but I dont dislike him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70th Week Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And take Josh Wilson with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Dhall and Wilson should be the last of our worries when it comes to the D. Cant cover guys for 5 seconds. When the D-line and LB's get 0 pressure it makes it much harder to cover people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I wouldn't call him absolute garbage, but he is definitely average, and is not worth the money that he i searning. Yet another one of those wtf contracts that were handed out routinely by the last regime. Dude played like 5-6 games for us, after getting roasted in Oakland. I'd love it if we were able to create some cap space by getting rid of him, and revamping the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow, really? Hall's been one of the better players on our D this year, and probably last year too. He is one of the best tackling CBs in the league, has improved in coverage, and owns up when he makes a mistake. If this thread were from 4 years ago, I'd agree with you. But Hall's one of the bright spots on the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And take Josh Wilson with him. Honestly, if truth be told, we've not one top tier starting caliber DB between the 4 of them. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am done with D Hall... I have been waiting for him patiently to lead by example and play solid football. This year could be even worse than year's past... every week he does something incredibly stupid that deserves a personal foul penalty (whether he gets one or not). I constantly see him out of position, and when he does attempt to bring down a player he always wants to have the highlight shoulder hit instead of wrapping and driving, which leads to the opponent escaping 50% of the time. At this point, he is the only bad character guy left on the team in my belief, and I can't wait for the skins to part ways with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow, really? Hall's been one of the better players on our D this year, and probably last year too. He is one of the best tackling CBs in the league, has improved in coverage, and owns up when he makes a mistake.If this thread were from 4 years ago, I'd agree with you. But Hall's one of the bright spots on the D. People just love to hate on him. There's almost no point in trying to back the guy up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow, really? Hall's been one of the better players on our D this year, and probably last year too. He is one of the best tackling CBs in the league, has improved in coverage, and owns up when he makes a mistake.If this thread were from 4 years ago, I'd agree with you. But Hall's one of the bright spots on the D. Not often we disagree bro', but I think your well over selling his worth here. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Maybe it's me. Maybe it's not. The media here in DC seem to disect the teams horrible secondary every week..without mentioning loud mouth DeAngelo Hall. Why is this?Am I the only one who thinks he is hot garbage as a football player? He runs his mouth and struts around with swag and yet gets fried every game. I'll take Wilson and Williams getting fried any day .. over Hall. Because they dont strut, talk crap and dont try to instigate trouble on the field. They dont TALK .. they try. Hall doesnt want to get dirty. He's allergic to the dirt/ground. He's all mouth. Yet the DC media refuses to call this guy out? why? Fear? Nothing worse than a horrible player with big mouth. A little public humiliation is in order. :mad: If I were Shanny or Snyder, I'd have an ad in the Washington Post Classifieds this morning: HELP WANTED: Pro Football team Washington Redskins are looking for a secondary that has heart, isn't afraid to hit / get dirty. No Exp Nesc. What game(s) are you wathcing? Believe it or not, D. Hall has been a solid tackler and an average cover guy. You want to blame someone for long pass plays? blame Haslett, he has the DBs playing a 15 yard soft zone on several occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow, really? Hall's been one of the better players on our D this year, and probably last year too. He is one of the best tackling CBs in the league, has improved in coverage, and owns up when he makes a mistake.If this thread were from 4 years ago, I'd agree with you. But Hall's one of the bright spots on the D. I'm not sure this is true. Hall COULD be one of the better players on the roster if he were utilized appropriately. He needs to be allowed to be a playmaker. That's what he does best, and the major attribute he brings to a defense. He is not a great coverage guy. I struggle to say he's a good coverage guy. Someone else in another thread said something about starting Cedric at corner and moving Hall to free safety. I'd be okay with that... Except for the fact the guy we have at strong safety can't cover worth a lick (Doughty) but he plays well in the box. So you don't want to play him much in coverage and in the end you'd be moving DHall back to cover. We need to upgrade our safety talent, and maybe corner... And we need to utilize the players we have more effectively to have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 You forgot big ass contract that he hasn't justified for over two years now. Hail. Well hello there! Where's the thread about the sacks n stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Maybe it's me. Maybe it's not. The media here in DC seem to disect the teams horrible secondary every week..without mentioning loud mouth DeAngelo Hall. Why is this?Am I the only one who thinks he is hot garbage as a football player? He runs his mouth and struts around with swag and yet gets fried every game. I'll take Wilson and Williams getting fried any day .. over Hall. Because they dont strut, talk crap and dont try to instigate trouble on the field. They dont TALK .. they try. Hall doesnt want to get dirty. He's allergic to the dirt/ground. He's all mouth. Yet the DC media refuses to call this guy out? why? Fear? Nothing worse than a horrible player with big mouth. A little public humiliation is in order. :mad: If I were Shanny or Snyder, I'd have an ad in the Washington Post Classifieds this morning: HELP WANTED: Pro Football team Washington Redskins are looking for a secondary that has heart, isn't afraid to hit / get dirty. No Exp Nesc. We let LaRon landry walk... to the Jets... as much as he was hurt his last two seasons, he's better than any of our safeties right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 DHall is an slighty below average to average corner. I actually like the cat, but i wouldn't be affected one way or the other if he doesn't return after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm not sure this is true. Hall COULD be one of the better players on the roster if he were utilized appropriately. He needs to be allowed to be a playmaker. That's what he does best, and the major attribute he brings to a defense. He is not a great coverage guy. I struggle to say he's a good coverage guy. Someone else in another thread said something about starting Cedric at corner and moving Hall to free safety. I'd be okay with that... Except for the fact the guy we have at strong safety can't cover worth a lick (Doughty) but he plays well in the box. So you don't want to play him much in coverage and in the end you'd be moving DHall back to cover.We need to upgrade our safety talent, and maybe corner... And we need to utilize the players we have more effectively to have a chance. I'll agree with that, but Hall is a sure tackler. That's one of the better parts of his games. I completely agree that his best attribute is the playmaking ability, but he is a good tackler and improved as a coverage guy (note, improved doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a strength, it's just not as big a weakness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'll agree with that, but Hall is a sure tackler. That's one of the better parts of his games. I completely agree that his best attribute is the playmaking ability, but he is a good tackler and improved as a coverage guy (note, improved doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a strength, it's just not as big a weakness) IDK about his coverage ability improving. WRs are still getting wide open against him. It could be the scheme, IDK, but his coverage ability is as lacking as it ever has, though he makes plays when he gets his hands on the ball. Yet, i do agree that his tackling is MUCH improved than what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMAN911 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I don't care about D-Hall's Mouth.. the dude CANNOT COVER ANYONE!!!! And neither can Josh Wilson, Hell the ENTIRE SECONDARY SUCKS!! THEY ALL NEED TO GO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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