RonArtest15 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 For the past couple of weeks, something just doesn't look right with Brandon Banks. Many of his kick returns are not making it to the 20 and it looks as though he's lacking the explosion we saw from him last year. I'd love to eat crow with this thread (assuming he's still here after the bye) if he has a HUGE game vs. the Eagles. That being said, he's tying up a roster spot due to being somewhat one-dimensional. We saw Ryan Torain get a shot yesterday and make the most of his opportunity. I've just been wondering if Niles Paul (or someone else) will get his turn to return kicks. I've liked what I've seen from him on ST, and I know he's done some good things with his returns while at Nebraska. Anyways, I hope Banks isn't trying to play through a nagging injury or something along those lines...but if he is, I wouldn't be surprised. He doens't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampEm Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I think he is fine. He just hasn't managed to break one open. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I've wanted Paul and/or Aldrick Robinson to see if they can hold the spot down for a while now. I originally did not see Banks making this team again. Paul reminds me more of a Devin Hester type and has the size to actually break a few tackles, Banks looks to have trouble breaking the 20 yard line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972FAN Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yeah, think he's is ok far as we know, but he has had Knee issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 To much dancing and running east and west, he needs to take it north and south, plus some good blocking would help. overall i am very meh about our special teams this year. If gano wasnt booming them into the endzone every game i would wonder how good the coverage is. Rocca is a beast with his punting, I am not sure why the eagles didnt resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor4Life Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 We all knew that the kickoff rule changes were going to limit his effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goingforburgundy Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Teams have opened zero lanes for Brandon back there. Im surprised he has gotten as much as he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 To much dancing and running east and west, he needs to take it north and south, plus some good blocking would help. Bingo. It seems he's thinking too much. Way too much dancing side to side a la Randle El. Just get upfield. He's always looking for a huge lane to open up, but he's fast and wily enough to not need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It appears Banks may be suffering form take it to the house syndrome. Sometimes a 6-8 yard gain is better than a 0-2 yard gain. I honestly think he is fearing getting hit. He is avoiding contact at all cost and is looking to go down before first contact. He will never be able to run up the gut and break a tackle at his size where Niles Paul probably could. It is going to be feast or famine with Banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I tell you what...if Banks doesn't do anything electric this season, I think we should give the job to Paul and open up another spot on the roster going into next year. There's only so many things you can expect to get out of a 150 pound football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I think he focuses too much on breaking one for a TD, that he finds himself dancing around. Where is Mike Nelms? I'm sure he still has it at age 56 and can maybe give Banks a few pointers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 What's wrong with Banks is called "game tape." Teams have watched film and determined specific strategies to defending his returns. His speed isn't off and he's not afraid to get hit. I do think he has to make better decisions regarding the returns from the endzone because he's routinely not getting to the 20 so it proves to be a bad decision vs. taking the touch back! As for those asking for another returner, you know the team would have a different returner back there if they were better than Banks. This is no longer the Vinny Show. The best players play under this regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yup. The lack of blocking in front of him and guys up his ass as soon as he catches the ball is off from last year. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 He definitely looks a bit off. Wouldn't surprise me if he's not 100%. He looks noticeably less explosive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yup. The lack of blocking in front of him and guys up his ass as soon as he catches the ball is off from last year.Hail. is the blocking that bad compared to last year? are you keeping an eye on this or are you talking out of your arse?? just, saying I never pay attention to special teams blocking ... i do feel he seems off ... i think the big thing is he is not making that first defender miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 When he has been effective is when he catches the ball and bursts right up the middle. I said something in the game thread about this yesterday. He is dancing around too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Banks used to outrun angles. Now when he runs side-to-side, he cannot escape the coverage. The speed is not what it was a season ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 is the blocking that bad compared to last year? are you keeping an eye on this or are you talking out of your arse?? just, saying I never pay attention to special teams blocking ... i do feel he seems off ... i think the big thing is he is not making that first defender miss Oh, I was being TOTALLY flip as I don't believe there's anything remotely wrong with Banks. But that said he does appear to be having less space over the first 5/10 yards. On punts as well as kick-returns. So maybe there is something in the blocking ..... *Conspiracy theorist me. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 What's wrong with Banks is called "game tape." Teams have watched film and determined specific strategies to defending his returns. His speed isn't off and he's not afraid to get hit. I do think he has to make better decisions regarding the returns from the endzone because he's routinely not getting to the 20 so it proves to be a bad decision vs. taking the touch back! As for those asking for another returner, you know the team would have a different returner back there if they were better than Banks. This is no longer the Vinny Show. The best players play under this regime. I don't think it is just other teams. I believe it is Banks as well. As others have said, he is trying too hard and too much for the home run hit. The whole idea in returns is to give our offense the best possible position to start from and win the field position battle. It's great if they return it to the house, but it doesn't happen often, and no one expects it to happen nearly every time. Banks needs to stop thinking so much and just run. Stop juking around looking for the HR play and collapsing if it isn't there. Just get the most yards you can. Of course, that new rule banning 'wedge blocking' (I think it was called), and his knee issue might still be affecting him some, but Banks needs to stop listening to his press and just play the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRedskins Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 He's got guys in his face by the time he gets to the 15. He gets no blocking. Danny Smith really needs to fix this his ass is out the door. Seriously, you've got one of the most explosive players in the league returning kicks and he can barely get to the 20?! Look at Hester's returns around 2006-2007. Not to take anything away from Hester himself but he had some amazing blocking on those TD returns. Now, I'm not saying Banks is gonna take it to the house 6 or 7 times but he should be getting the ball to the 30-40. With a predominant running team that has a struggling QB and little to no big plays, field position is huge and the special teams getting it together could go a long way to generating wins in tight games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail26 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I would have thought the new kickoff rule would have somehow "helped" Brandon........he could have gotten a 7 or 8 yard head start......he will get a couple big returns.......we have to look at our blocking as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Banks is a seem returner and the seems have not been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Please cut his arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Banks is a seem returner and the seems have not been there. This seams about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 To much dancing and running east and west, he needs to take it north and south, plus some good blocking would help. overall i am very meh about our special teams this year. If gano wasnt booming them into the endzone every game i would wonder how good the coverage is. Rocca is a beast with his punting, I am not sure why the eagles didnt resign him. Dancing and running east-west is Banks' game. That is, if the seem doesn't develop during the kick, he needs to stay alive until one does open or try to get to the other side of the field hoping they defenders have collapsed inward and created a seem for him. ---------- Post added October-3rd-2011 at 12:11 PM ---------- When he has been effective is when he catches the ball and bursts right up the middle. I said something in the game thread about this yesterday. He is dancing around too much. We must not have watched the same returner then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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