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WP Opinion: Obama Will Eventually Come Out for Gay Marriage (MET)

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Drew_Fl

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i'm just glad he finally decided on the issue. i don't really care what his stance is, as long as it's something decisive. if he's for it, that's fine. if he's against it, that's fine. if he wants to leave it to the states, that's fine.

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Gay Marriage - I support the right of people to get married, Never had a problem with that

Obama coming out for Gay Marriage - Little problem with this. Is this an out for if he loses he can blame his "change of heart" on this issue? I honestly do not know how many gay marriage supporters would cast an election vote on this single issue alone, it could be many or not so many. I don't know. I tend to think that it's an issue that not too many people would be able to get behind and win him this election but I could be wrong. To me the problem I have is the whole "evolving" idea about this issue. It seems to flipfloppy to me and I think it will cost him the election. Not that I want to see him get re-elected, I don't. I just see this backfiring on him, not becoming a rally cry for people to rush out and vote for him.

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TimmySmith

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Not sure what you are talking about. Copied and pasted straight from front page of Washingtonpost.com. Although I do see the link slips an "eventually" in there. Well I guess that changes everything!
You, like everyone else who did not read the opinion piece, think it's a news story. Look at some of the comments.
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Kilmer17

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If he actually cared about this as an issue, he would have legalized it nationally when he had both houses and a 60 seat Senate.

This is 100% politicking.

Not that there is anything wrong with it, lets just not call him a hero or say he's acting bold.

He's just trying to shore up his base.

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Prosperity

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If he actually cared about this as an issue, he would have legalized it nationally when he had both houses and a 60 seat Senate.

This is 100% politicking.

Not that there is anything wrong with it, lets just not call him a hero or say he's acting bold.

He's just trying to shore up his base.

So there's no 3rd option between pure politics and pure passion?

So every single thing the democrats didn't legislate when they owned the House and Senate is something they don't care about?

horrible reasoning right there...

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Kilmer17

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So there's no 3rd option between pure politics and pure passion?

So every single thing the democrats didn't legislate when they owned the House and Senate is something they don't care about?

horrible reasoning right there...

There is, just not with an absolute type issue as this.

A bill to legalize gay marriage and repeal the DOMA would have taken a couple of hours tops.

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Kilmer17

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If it is that big, why didnt he address it when he had the votes in both houses to actually accomplish it?

This idea is dead in the water. It has ZERO chance of going anywhere now and Obama knows it.

He wants the campaign issue. Nothing more.

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19Skins72

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If he actually cared about this as an issue, he would have legalized it nationally when he had both houses and a 60 seat Senate.

This is 100% politicking.

Not that there is anything wrong with it, lets just not call him a hero or say he's acting bold.

He's just trying to shore up his base.

I agree with Kilmer 100%. Everything about this screams politics. The timing for starters. Secondly this might get people talking about something other than the economy for a change (good luck with that though.)

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If it is that big, why didnt he address it when he had the votes in both houses to actually accomplish it?

This idea is dead in the water. It has ZERO chance of going anywhere now and Obama knows it.

He wants the campaign issue. Nothing more.

Maybe they were busy with other issues, such as healthcare, and figuring out what to do with the massive mess they just inherited from the previous presidency? And I'm sure Republican congressman, who were too busy fearmongering about socialism to come up with any solutions of their own, would have had a field day with the Dems focusing on gay marriage instead of the economy.

So what if he's waiting for when this is politically favorable? Wouldn't that be the ideal time to do it? At least he's willing to do it anyways, something that is right and not a single Repub. would do. Even if he is waiting for the right time, it's still a bold move because he's the first to do it, plus they don't know if it could swing a significant number of voters away or not. But yeah, let's take away any and all credit because O maybe waiting for a more advantageous time. I'm sure you all have the exact same grading criteria for the right too.

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NavyDave

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Non Issue to cater to a demographic that is going to vote for him even though this not going to pass. This goes into the Good Intentions category of "I wanted to pass this but I was thwarted by those who want to maintain standards, morals and not endorse unnatural behaviour."

And by the way Obama was opposed to gay Marriage before Gay Rights groups met with him at the White House.

Lets get back to things that matter like cutting spending and creating an environment where we will see a booming economy again.

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Kilmer17

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Maybe they were busy with other issues, such as healthcare, and figuring out what to do with the massive mess they just inherited from the previous presidency? And I'm sure Republican congressman, who were too busy fearmongering about socialism to come up with any solutions of their own, would have had a field day with the Dems focusing on gay marriage instead of the economy.

So what if he's waiting for when this is politically favorable? Wouldn't that be the ideal time to do it? At least he's willing to do it anyways, something that is right and not a single Repub. would do. Even if he is waiting for the right time, it's still a bold move because he's the first to do it, plus they don't know if it could swing a significant number of voters away or not. But yeah, let's take away any and all credit because O maybe waiting for a more advantageous time. I'm sure you all have the exact same grading criteria for the right too.

I agree with everything you just wrote until you call it a bold move. It's not bold, it's calculated and political.

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elkabong82

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I agree with everything you just wrote until you call it a bold move. It's not bold, it's calculated and political.

It can be both calculated, political, and bold. That action will ignite opposition, and do so coming up on re-election, and he'll be the first President to endorse it. Was JFK's support of civil rights not bold, eventho there was political favorability for him doing it?

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Kilmer17

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It can be both calculated, political, and bold. That action will ignite opposition, and do so coming up on re-election, and he'll be the first President to endorse it. Was JFK's support of civil rights not bold, eventho there was political favorability for him doing it?

Bold would have been doing it when it had a chance to pass (ala Kennedy). Bold is not using it solely for political points. It's smart, not bold.

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It can be both calculated, political, and bold. That action will ignite opposition, and do so coming up on re-election, and he'll be the first President to endorse it. Was JFK's support of civil rights not bold, eventho there was political favorability for him doing it?

pretty much, it's not that complicated

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Predicto

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Great conversation about how calculating, heroic, political, or stupid Obama's move is... except for the part where Obama hasn't actually done anything about gay marriage either way, and this is just a blogger throwing out a prediction. :ols:

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