authentic Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I wonder how this will impact the current state of the lockout, if at all. click for the rest There is reportedly a break in the ranks among NFL players, and it’s happened earlier than anyone would have imagined.Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal has the scoop, saying a “breakaway group of players” want a seat at the mediation table and they are close to hiring a lawyer to intervene in mediation. As many as 70 players described as “mid tier” players could be committed to the law firm. Kaplan reports they are unhappy that talks broke off in March in Washington D.C. They reportedly won’t contest the “Brady vs. NFL” antitrust case, but just want a seat at the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpumd Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 This is just what the owners want. Dissension among the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yep...this can only be a bad thing for the players. It might not amount to anything...but it very possibly could be the beginning of the end as well. I sure hope so. Let's get everyone paid and back to thinking about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 I feel the same way. I think the owners are watching this giving each other high-fives and chest-bumps. Since its going according to plan....Actually it has me thinking about the Selvish Capers piece with his financial issues during the lockout and how dependent he is on the offseason money (workout money). And I'm wondering how many other players in the league are in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 The NFL better not comment at all!!! Let the NFLPA deal with it and the NFL should just stick to there side and continue the mediation. I had a feeling this would have to happen. How can a set up 12 players represent thousands. They all have a selfish bias on what needs to get done in the CBA. Each and every day uncertainty sinks in for the players who have no real voice, the more they will want there voice heard. Hey De Smith.....Great job so far. Not only hvae you pissed us fans off, now your own side is starting to turn on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hey De Smith.....Great job so far. Not only hvae you pissed us fans off, now your own side is starting to turn on you. yeah, this is going to get real ugly for the NFLPA or the "trade association" or what ever they call themselves. I just want this crap to be over with already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Roger Goodell: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If this group continue to make noise then I wonder how long it will be until other interest groups come forwards like retired players and rookies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If this group continue to make noise then I wonder how long it will be until other interest groups come forwards like retired players and rookies . The retired players are already suing the NFPLA - although its about image right deals not the CBA. This all just needs to end somehow someway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 D. Smith never seemed to have a grasp on his role with the NFLPA and/or this Trade Organization...or whatever its called. Not good for the players. Owners should just keep quiet. If the get enough players to do this....it''ll be players v players v retired players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Since DSMITH is NOW only a lawyer and not the head of the union anylonger could he just be fired by the current players? And a new head of the NFLPA VOTED on after a new cba is signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Since DSMITH is NOW only a lawyer and not the head of the union anylonger could he just be fired by the current players? And a new head of the NFLPA VOTED on after a new cba is signed? If this is the case then why according to Vrabel ”We’re players here to represent players and De works for us. They do (have a seat). And if they’re unhappy with that seat, we have to vote in a new executive committee, and a new board of reps.” ***Dee Smith works for them?...Oh and an executive committee of what? I thought they "decertified". I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If this is the case then why according to Vrabel ”We’re players here to represent players and De works for us. They do (have a seat). And if they’re unhappy with that seat, we have to vote in a new executive committee, and a new board of reps.”***Dee Smith works for them?...Oh and an executive committee of what? I thought they "decertified". I'm confused. De does work for them as a lawyer now. The executive committee is the 12 players or whatever that is on the case. I believe that is what he is talking about. But that could be the board of reps as well. In the end, I think the players need to vote internally to ensure this doesn't get out of hand quickly for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55yrSkinsFan Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Any truth to the rumor that Albert Haynesworth issued a statement, "Can't we all just get along?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRIEL1 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 ^ Yes but he was referencing the guy who filed suit against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheismannQuote Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 And here comes news that mediation will break until May 16th. Awesome job, fellas. Can we get some judgement, Judge Nelson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasthunder Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Sounds like typical politics, the lawyers( Smith) are working hard for the upper echelon players, but those mid level and lower players are the ones feeling the heat. So, sad. Just come to an agreement and get back to playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Judge should just say the old CBA stays in place until everyone grows up....in other words forever. Then we can just have football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Best news I heard today. Owners need to sit back and watch this seed of dissension grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Any news on whether the judge is going to rule on the lockout anytime soon? I thought there was a chance that she could force the owners to stop the lockout (which of course would then got to an appeal) which would allow the teams to have FA, trades, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Any news on whether the judge is going to rule on the lockout anytime soon? I thought there was a chance that she could force the owners to stop the lockout (which of course would then got to an appeal) which would allow the teams to have FA, trades, etc. yeah, she's expected to rule on the lockout on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbsisgod2006 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I think D Smith has done a horrible job so far as the head of the NFLPA*. I think he never really wanted to work out a deal with the owners during mediation and that his whole intentions were take this to court from jump street. That being said I think because of that the NFLPA* is starting to splinter like what you’re seeing right now with the 70 to 75 players that would like to intervene in the mediation process. Then you have the Retired NFL player association President George Martin who can't even get a sit down with D Smith and is making noise about that. And Vrabel doesn't help the situation either by basically acknowledging that the union is still a union and giving the owner more firepower to prove that the decertification was a sham. The owners are licking their chops now and the players are walking a very fine line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 yeah, she's expected to rule on the lockout on Monday. Wow...I'm surprised this isn't a bigger deal. I suppose that means that, in theory, there could be business as usual sometime next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Wow...I'm surprised this isn't a bigger deal. I suppose that means that, in theory, there could be business as usual sometime next week? Not really the NFL will have an opportunity to look over the decision and then (potentially) days if not weeks later appeal the decision. So for the short term even if judge Nelson lifts the lockout on Monday nothing will change for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I don't blame these other players for being nervous about how all this is working out at all. If the "union" or whatever they're calling themselves gets a collusion ruling against the NFL, then it means that their is no salary cap minimum OR maximum, so 10% will make all the money (ie Brees, Manning, and the others that brought the lawsuit against the NFL). I was saying this would be an issue for the players a MONTH ago. I don't think the Union did a good job of educating these players about the risk they were taking when you drop the NFL into a court, sure it will work out fantastic for the best players in the league, but when the guy that's 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart is getting paid $30k a year, then it doesn't feel so good for the other 90% of the players. They were really dumb to decertify because the 10% that now have the union lawyers on their side can push this thing through as far as they want, unless: A. the rest of the players get together and form another union, B. they get a judge to stop the Brees Brady Manning lawsuit, or C. they convince the union to re-certify and get a new CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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