pjfootballer Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Gibbs has 3 SBs, but people still trash him when comparing him to Shanahan. Gibbs 2.0 this, Gibbs 2.0 that...have it ever occurred to you that this is Shanahan 2.0 and he just don't have it anymore. When was the last time he won a playoff game again??? Sooo....I'm guessing your pick is Reid? :whoknows: ---------- Post added February-18th-2011 at 02:02 PM ---------- This SI article about Jake Plummer has a few little tidbits about his experience w/ Shanny. Nothing huge. Just that he made Plummer feel he couldn't please him. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Just putting it into the discussion."From the start, however, Shanahan and Plummer clashed. One wanted complete control; the other thrived only if not subject to it. "Shanahan used to kill me," says Plummer. "If I was 23 of 30 with two touchdowns, he'd say, Why didn't you go 25 for 30 with three touchdowns? I was like, We're beating someone by 21 points, how much more do you need to beat them by?" Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1181772/5/index.htm#ixzz1EBBuGvUI http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1181772/index.htm Good. That's the killer instinct I want. I want us to be up by 21 and not think it's enough. The Patriots won 3 SBs with that philosophy. ---------- Post added February-18th-2011 at 02:28 PM ---------- I'll never understand why so many people love Shanny even though through 17 years as a head coach he has only won 2 SB's and has been fired just as many times. Oh and his only time of sustained success was with a certain QB at that. Neither Cowher or Shanny are as great as advertised. Both had great elements on their respective teams when they arrived and were/are over hyped by the press. Sure they're good HC's but both have proven over the course of their career's to have flaws in their overall ability. Both are a far cry from the coaching abilities of the NFL's greatest HC's. And Shula won only 2 SBs in 23 years...Landry won only 2 in 20 years...etc., etc. You can pretty much say that about any coach that coaches for a long period of time. I'm just saying that he was set up for success. Excellent defense/ DC, and great FO structure that basically breeds winning players. The fact that he only has one SB in all his years is pretty concerning, considering those circumstances. Cowher also failed on "Reid Like" proportions. I think the Steelers were in the AFC championship game and lost it at least 5 or 6 times. One lucky run as the 6 seed finally got him over the hump, not to mention zebras in his hip pocket. ---------- Post added February-18th-2011 at 02:30 PM ---------- [ Who did Cowher have at quarterback, Neil O'Donnel, and before that? He had a game manager at quarterback all of those years before he got Big Ben. Ben was a game manager his first couple of years but he has turned into a big time quarterback. Now let's look at Shanny, OC of the Niners with probably the greatest array of talent on that side of the ball with names like Young, Rice, Watters. He goes to Denver, John Elway went to 3 superbowls with Dan Reeves as HC. Elway is regarded as one the all time greats. It wasn't like Shanny went into a God forsaken place to coach. He had a good front office and a owner that is willing to spend money to bring in talent. There were pieces there, the most valuable being Elway. I don't think Shanny was the guiding light that everyone thinks he is for the succes of Elway and the Broncos wining those 2 superbowls. if anything Elway made Shanny, look at his record post Elway. And the same thing could be said about Elway. He couldn't win anything "until" Shanahan put some pieces around him and coached the team. They go hand in hand and neither is more important to them winning the SB. Actually I'll say it was Shanahan drafting Davis that put the Broncos over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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