Dallascrushers Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I haven't seen this post anywhere...sooo here goes my rant. I am really not a huge NBA fan just an occasional fan. I know enough as an outsider to question the Yao Ming All Star selection. Not even just selection....a STARTER. I mean maybe I can understand the vote if it is a bid farewell for a career of injuries and a few good seasons of All Star material, but really. I mean Yao played 5 games this year and averaged 10.6 pts per game. I mean Kevin Love is a monster....he is averaging 21.6 pts. per game, 15.2 rbs per game and is 43 percent from 3 pt. range....can anyone give me a perspective on this? I am so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 lots of chinese fans vote for him when fans are the sole decision makers of starters, you get results like that it doesn't help that the center position has about one or two people that are legit all-stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's pretty obvious. He has the largest fanbase in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 well makes sense didnt know that it is only fan based voting....thought players and coaches would have a vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Coaches and players fill the rest of the roster. Fans vote the starters. It's monumentally stupid but that's David Stern (or any pro league commissioner) for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Because of China...this has been going on for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Indeed, China's population total numbers in the billions. It's not surprising to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Some fans don't watch games. Thus the reason why the pro bowl is equally as bad. Players vote too and vote for their hero as a kid. It's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Because a billion Chinese can't be wrong? Because the NBA is a product and everything is made in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: PEOPLE ARE STUPID! I want that on my headstone. ---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 11:07 AM ---------- Plus, like how the NBA fixes their games, they fix the rosters for the all-star game. Par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Plus, like how the NBA fixes their games, they fix the rosters for the all-star game. Par for the course. Don't forget fixing the draft lottery. Which in my mind is a proven thing (1985). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 As a related question, how does Monta Ellis NOT make the all star team. Averaging 25 points per game (6th in NBA), third in steals, in the top 20 in assists (and he's not even the team's point guard). I mean, I know the Warriors are an NBA backwater, but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 As a related question, how does Monta Ellis NOT make the all star team. Averaging 25 points per game (6th in NBA), third in steals, in the top 20 in assists (and he's even the point guard). I mean, I know the Warriors are an NBA backwater, but come on. the same could be said about Kevin Love, 21pts a game & he's leading the league in rebounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 the same could be said about Kevin Love, 21pts a game & he's leading the league in rebounding Definitely racism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 the same could be said about Kevin Love, 21pts a game & he's leading the league in rebounding Absolutely. It's ridiculous. ---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 12:54 PM ---------- Definitely racism... Lol, no way. It's "important NBA city-ism." Last year, lily-white David Lee got on the all star team with lesser numbers. Both Lee and Love have stats that benefit from being the only decent player on otherwise horrible teams. The difference was that Lee played for the Knicks last year - one of the teams that "matters" even when they stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 As a related question, how does Monta Ellis NOT make the all star team. Averaging 25 points per game (6th in NBA), third in steals, in the top 20 in assists (and he's not even the team's point guard). I mean, I know the Warriors are an NBA backwater, but come on. Russell Westbrook is that good. He's deserving over Monta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Russell Westbrook is that good. He's deserving over Monta. Ginobli is the one I would question (assuming you only have three guard reserves). Not Westbrook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Lol, no way. It's "important NBA city-ism." Last year, lily-white David Lee got on the all star team with lesser numbers. Both Lee and Love have stats that benefit from being the only decent player on otherwise horrible teams. The difference was that Lee played for the Knicks last year - one of the teams that "matters" even when they stink. Get the hell out of here with your fancy lawyer 'facts'....its clearly racism and you know it! :pfft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ginobli is the one I would question (assuming you only have three guard reserves). Not Westbrook. Its hard to punish the Spurs because they play team basketball. Ginobili is one of the best clutch players in the league. His 18 ppg leads directly to victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Its hard to punish the Spurs because they play team basketball. Ginobili is one of the best clutch players in the league. His 18 ppg leads directly to victories. Meh, Ginobili benefits greatly from playing with the greatest fundamental player of all time in Tim Duncan. He isn't even the second best player on his team - Tony Parker is much more important. As the third option, Ginobili gets easier looks and clean up points. Ellis has no big man down low to take the pressure off of him. He has to create his own shot on a bad team, and does a great job of it. Always among the highest percentage shooting guards in the game. Ah, I'm just biased. The Warriors haven't had an all star for fifteen years. I'm not sure what else Ellis could do to get in. He wasn't even in the top ten guards in the Western voting tally - Hell, Vince Carter got more votes than Monta. That is wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Man, the Chinese are slacking. If they would spread their votes to all their players, the Wizards would have had an all-star as well. Vote for Yi next time as well you morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayH81 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's a concession won by the Cinese government, or they will not continue to fund our government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Meh, Ginobili benefits greatly from playing with the greatest fundamental player of all time in Tim Duncan. He isn't even the second best player on his team - Tony Parker is much more important. As the third option, Ginobili gets easier looks and clean up points. Ellis has no big man down low to take the pressure off of him. He has to create his own shot on a bad team, and does a great job of it. Always among the highest percentage shooting guards in the game. Ah, I'm just biased. The Warriors haven't had an all star for fifteen years. I'm not sure what else Ellis could do to get in. He wasn't even in the top ten guards in the Western voting tally - Hell, Vince Carter got more votes than Monta. That is wack. haha. I was about to say, there's a reason why Ginobili is an all-star this year Parker isn't. He's taken over that role as the go-to guy for the Spurs over Duncan and Parker. He's their best player this season. (he's absolutely their first option now) And creating your own shot on a bad team is easy in the NBA. Nothing against Monta who's tons of fun to watch but creating your own shot in a half court offense like the Spurs is what's hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 haha. I was about to say, there's a reason why Ginobili is an all-star this year Parker isn't. He's taken over that role as the go-to guy for the Spurs over Duncan and Parker. He's their best player this season. (he's absolutely their first option now) And creating your own shot on a bad team is easy in the NBA. Nothing against Monta who's tons of fun to watch but creating your own shot in a half court offense like the Spurs is what's hard. Fair enough. I admit, I haven't watched the Spurs much this year and was going on what I have seen in the past. Just seems to me like Manu always has the threat of Duncan and Parker to help him. In contrast, when the Warriors offense breaks down and they are all just standing around with the clock winding down, they give the ball to Monte and say: "Hey, you go one on five and get us some points" and half the time he is able to do it. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Meh, Ginobili benefits greatly from playing with the greatest fundamental player of all time in Tim Duncan. He isn't even the second best player on his team - Tony Parker is much more important. As the third option, Ginobili gets easier looks and clean up points. Ellis has no big man down low to take the pressure off of him. He has to create his own shot on a bad team, and does a great job of it. Always among the highest percentage shooting guards in the game. Ah, I'm just biased. The Warriors haven't had an all star for fifteen years. I'm not sure what else Ellis could do to get in. He wasn't even in the top ten guards in the Western voting tally - Hell, Vince Carter got more votes than Monta. That is wack. Duncan is still a solid player but he is on a fast decline. This is by far the worst season of his career statistically. His numbers in literally almost every single major statistical category is at the lowest of his career. He's 34 years old and not getting any younger. He's most certainly not a first or second option anymore. On the flipside, Manu is putting up one of the finest seasons of his career. Plus, as has been pointed out, his numbers aren't empty. They're leading to wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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