McD5 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 According to profootballweekly, Trent Williams has been credited with 5 penalties (2 false starts and 3 holding calls) and has allowed 7.5 sacks. Not sure how accurate that is though He's definitely been beaten and has given up a lot of sacks. That said, he has faced some great players. It's too early to say yet, but he looks good for a rookie. If he stays at this level, then no, he isn't great. But certainly he should improve with more games under his belt. Avoiding injuries would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The teams given up 36 sacks this season, fourth worst in the league. From those 36 which belong to Trent? Can anyone make a breakdown to show who the worst linemen are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Clearley a great start, my only concern is will he put the work in to be great, like his talent dictates. I would have taken Bradford above him, even though I'm an OL guy. That pick however is irrealivent due to the Rams selecting him. So where we picked ya I'm thrilled to have silver back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The teams given up 36 sacks this season, fourth worst in the league. From those 36 which belong to Trent? Can anyone make a breakdown to show who the worst linemen are That link above says 7.5 of 36 are him. So roughly 1 out of 5. Rabach and Heyer are the worst. No breakdown needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 According to profootballweekly, Trent Williams has been credited with 5 penalties (2 false starts and 3 holding calls) and has allowed 7.5 sacks. Not sure how accurate that is though Penalties are to be expected by a rookie against top flight DEs and only 5 in 10 games played is spectacular. I have a feeling that those 7.5 sacks allowed have more to do with Lichtensteiger being lined up next to him, then his actual performance. ---------- Post added December-8th-2010 at 12:15 PM ---------- According to the same site, Heyer has allowed 5 and Rabach 1.75 sacks (not sure how he got .75 sacks). So according to their breakdown Trent Williams is the worst lineman. I think their stats are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I thought that Bradford, Suh, and Williams would all be #1 picks in a draft if it weren't for the fact that all three were in the same year. The only players in the last few drafts in the top 5 that would rank above him would be Jake Long, Matt Ryan, Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson and Mario Williams and maybe D'Brickashaw. But I think Williams has the potential to be as good as those top LTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That link above says 7.5 of 36 are him. So roughly 1 out of 5. Rabach and Heyer are the worst. No breakdown needed. Really because that's alot considering he missed a couple games. I'd like to see a better breakdown then this because if he truely gives up 1/5th of our total then he would by all accounts be our worst linemen which I don't think he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 He's definitely been beaten and has given up a lot of sacks. That said, he has faced some great players.It's too early to say yet, but he looks good for a rookie. If he stays at this level, then no, he isn't great. But certainly he should improve with more games under his belt. Avoiding injuries would help. McD5 with a post that makes sense? does...............not...............compute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 McD5 with a post that makes sense?does...............not...............compute Maybe your reading comprehension is improving? Or perhaps you are getting smarter with age:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Really because that's alot considering he missed a couple games. I'd like to see a better breakdown then this because if he truely gives up 1/5th of our total then he would by all accounts be our worst linemen which I don't think he is Good point on the missed games, but you also have to consider that the majority of almost any defense's sacks are going to come off RDE. Williams has given up a large number of sacks because he routinely lines up against sack specialists. I wouldn't expect a guard or center to give up a huge number of sacks over a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 He's been up and down, which is what you expect out of a rookie. But overall I love what he's shown. He's going to be another Chris Samuels for us, won't have to worry about the LT position at all the next decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 DeMarcus WareMario williams Dwight Freeney Kyle Vandenbosch Trent Cole and many others... He's faced a hell of a murderer's row in his first season. He's done very well. He's made a few rookie mistakes, but overall I've been VERY impressed with his play, his attitude, and his desire to succeed. An EXCELLENT choice to begin rebuilding this team. ~Bang Nothing else to add. I couldn't be more impressed with the guy. So happy Shanny took him at 4 when a lot of people had us taking Okung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 He's been up and down, which is what you expect out of a rookie. But overall I love what he's shown. He's going to be another Chris Samuels for us, won't have to worry about the LT position at all the next decade. Exactly how I see him, He plays a lot like Chris right now in pass protection and will get better at run blocking with time and work in the offseason. He's going to be something special for us there's no question about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I pretty much stopped watching him after the Bears game, I'm comfortable enough with him for the next 10-12 years that I've stopped paying attention to him. That's pretty much the best compliment you can give an OL, 99% of the time, he's unseen. Dude has been amazing facing Pro-Bowl pass-rushers one after the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidback94 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The kid is fantastic and we can only hope we can find more like him. I knew we toated after he went out during the Giants games. All the love for my boy from MD but Heyer just can't hang with the big boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 He was asked to play against some very good players this year without much support around him. He wore down a bit as the season wore on, but he continued to play and play hard. He got bear by some veteran moves this year, but I think he will continue to mature and improve technique and footwork to be a mainstay on the line for years. He was battle tested for sure and he passed with high marks. I'm really hoping that the little injuries were just from being a Rookie and not being used to the grind of the NFL. God I hope he's not injury prone! Cause the kid is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penteboss Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Trent Williams: 7 sacks allowed, 6 QB hits, 20 QB pressures Kory Lichtensteiger: 5 sacks allowed, 5 QB hits, 17 QB pressures Casey Rabach: 1 sack allowed, 2 QB hits, 10 QB pressures Artis Hicks: 2 sacks allowed, 4 QB hits, 15 QB pressures Jammal Brown: 4 sacks allowed, 4 QB hits, 29 QB pressures Stephon Heyer: 5 sacks allowed, 2 QB hits, 15 QB pressures Will Montgomery: 1 sack allowed, 0 QB hits, 4 QB pressures Ryan Torain: 2 sacks allowed Keiland Williams: 1 sack allowed all stats from profootballfocus.com Edit- It doesn't look like this site gives half sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Good point on the missed games, but you also have to consider that the majority of almost any defense's sacks are going to come off RDE. Williams has given up a large number of sacks because he routinely lines up against sack specialists. I wouldn't expect a guard or center to give up a huge number of sacks over a season. I agree with you but think that more deeper analysis is needed to guage Williams performance. We can't simply say that the guy who gave up the most sacks is our best linemen without being able to use more then our own eyes can we? 7.5 sacks in 10 games, comparrison Ryan Clady last season was a probowler who gave up 7 in 16 games. Does this mean that Williams is the next Clady or is this meaningless? If I had game footage I think it would be a neat project to anaylze how these sacks occured, who was beaten, and how it happened. Then we could see what the coaches see. I agree that the Guards and Center need replaced with more talented players ---------- Post added December-8th-2010 at 01:54 PM ---------- Trent Williams: 7 sacks allowed, 6 QB hits, 20 QB pressuresKory Lichtensteiger: 5 sacks allowed, 5 QB hits, 17 QB pressures Casey Rabach: 1 sack allowed, 2 QB hits, 10 QB pressures Artis Hicks: 2 sacks allowed, 4 QB hits, 15 QB pressures Jammal Brown: 4 sacks allowed, 4 QB hits, 29 QB pressures Stephon Heyer: 5 sacks allowed, 2 QB hits, 15 QB pressures Will Montgomery: 1 sack allowed, 0 QB hits, 4 QB pressures Ryan Torain: 2 sacks allowed Keiland Williams: 1 sack allowed all stats from profootballfocus.com Edit- It doesn't look like this site gives half sacks. This doesn't add up to our sack total or say how many games each guy played in which I think is very important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the krabber Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Trent Williams is a rookie and at times has played as such. However, he has shown that he has the tools and work-ethic to make the best of his skills and improve with time. If we can get a couple more guys on the O-line this off-season, I think that, paired with his off-season work, he will look even better next season. I went into last draft hoping we either went with Williams or Okung (and scared ****less that we were gonna go after Eric Berry) and I have not been disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 My hope is that we don't waste his time here by ignoring the interior O-line. A Samuels and Jansen in their primes were for the most part wasted because we just never brought in comparable talent on the interior. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case for Williams 5-10 years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 My hope is that we don't waste his time here by ignoring the interior O-line. A Samuels and Jansen in their primes were for the most part wasted because we just never brought in comparable talent on the interior. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case for Williams 5-10 years down the road. I would shocked if that wasn't in the cards coming this draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 trent has done a great job this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 For a rookie, he's had a phenomenal season. Of course, he's had some hiccups, but that's to be expected. He's been able to go toe to toe with some of the best pass rushers in the league. If we can build that line around him and make him a company man, you're going to see some very effective Redskins offenses in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinSpike Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 He's done very well, especially considering (a) this is his rookie year and ( the general quality of the O-Line. I hope to have the chance to watch Williams wear burgundy and gold for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyriggins Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I would have still taken Russell Okung. Trent Williams pick was based upon potental, but Okung is more of the right here right now player. Maybe Williams is the better player in the long run, Right now Okung is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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