bornzorn Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Some of you insist that the whole team is played by the QB and not really chalking up that some qb's , eli manning for example, have been bailed out by a good defense. What does defense have to do with a QB's performance? It might affect his win/loss record, but not the level of skill he displays on the field. The Giants had an absolute **** defense last season, yet Eli had his best year statistically. I know the Giants are hated here, and we've all had a good time in the past mocking the talent level of Eli, but the fact now is that Eli has developed into a damn good QB.....and he has done nothing but get better every single year. At this point in time, I'm actually more concerned as to what this kid's ceiling is as far as talent goes. He is still young, and has a potentially scary crop of young receivers now at his disposal minus the kind of egos that came with the likes of Burress and Shockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die.hard.skins.fan Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Please explain to me how Kevin Kolb is in front of Mark Sanchez, Matt Hasselbeck, Jason Campbell, and Alex Smith Alex Smith was actually a pretty decent QB last year... and how is Matt Cassell so high??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderoftheStar Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 What does defense have to do with a QB's performance? It might affect his win/loss record, but not the level of skill he displays on the field. The Giants had an absolute **** defense last season, yet Eli had his best year statistically.I know the Giants are hated here, and we've all had a good time in the past mocking the talent level of Eli, but the fact now is that Eli has developed into a damn good QB.....and he has done nothing but get better every single year. At this point in time, I'm actually more concerned as to what this kid's ceiling is as far as talent goes. He is still young, and has a potentially scary crop of young receivers now at his disposal minus the kind of egos that came with the likes of Burress and Shockey. If you are impressed with Eli, go look at Romo sits to pee and you'll see some stats. Than take note to who was the 1st round pick and who was the undrafted player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Here are my top 15 ranked not based on team stats or other web site data. My selections are just based on if I were a GM in the NFL and suddenly if one of the top echelon quarterbacks became available I would have my rankings ready. Not interested in quarterbacks 16-32 most likely. 1. Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees (My favorite now) 3. Phillip Rivers 4. Tom Brady 5. Brett Favre 6. Ben Rothlisberger 7. Aaron Rogers 8. Eli Manning 9. Tony Romo sits to pee 10. Donovan McNabb 11. Matt Ryan 12. Matt Schaub 13. Joe Flacco 14. Carson Palmer 15. Jay Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans&SkinsFan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hey Defender, let's see your rankings then! There is no right or wrong answer here, I just wanted to see who people thought were the top QBs in the league. there is a wrong answer...Jamarcus Russell as #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 1. Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Tom Brady 4. Brett Favre 5. Phillip Rivers 6. Aaron Rodgers 7. Ben Roethlisberger 8. Tony Romo sits to pee 9. Donovan McNabb 10. Eli Manning 11. Matt Ryan 12. Matt Schaub 13. Carson Palmer 14. Joe Flacco 15. Kevin Kolb 16. Mark Sanchez 17. Vince Young 18. Jay Cutler 19. Kyle Orton 20. Jason Campbell 21. Matt Cassell 22. Matt Hasselbeck 23. David Garrard 24. Matthew Stafford 25. Matt Moore 26. Alex Smith 27. Sam Bradford 28. Chad Henne 29. Matt Leinart 30. Josh Freeman 31. Trent Edwards 32. Jake Delhomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Here are my top 15 ranked not based on team stats or other web site data. My selections are just based on if I were a GM in the NFL and suddenly if one of the top echelon quarterbacks became available I would have my rankings ready. Not interested in quarterbacks 16-32 most likely.1. Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees (My favorite now) 3. Phillip Rivers 4. Tom Brady 5. Brett Favre 6. Ben Rothlisberger 7. Aaron Rogers 8. Eli Manning 9. Tony Romo sits to pee 10. Donovan McNabb 11. Matt Ryan 12. Matt Schaub 13. Joe Flacco 14. Carson Palmer 15. Jay Cutler Rivers over Brady? Even with a down year (following major knee surgery by the way) they still made the playoffs and he had a pretty damn good year statistically. I'm not putting money on Rivers when he has yet to get his first ring and Brady already has three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I think putting Romo sits to pee over McNabb is a little errm wrong . When the Cowboys won the they won with the rock on the ground ... when they leaned on Romo sits to pee things were not as impressive . I think Romo sits to pee is a middle of the road QB with an above average supporting cast . Still he would be in my top 15 my list . (TOP 14) 1 P.Manning 2 T Brady 3 P Rivers 4 D Brees 5 B Farve (if he plays) 6 D McNabb 7 A Rogers 8 B Rothliesberger 9 T Romo sits to pee 10 C Palmer 11 M Schuab 12 E Manning 13 A Smith 14 M Ryan I think there are a bunch of people in the next tier . I think Cutler is good but makes dumb mistakes too often and until he can prove he can cut those down he is nothing more than average, Flacco maybe should be at 15 but a guy who wins a playoff game while throwing for 35 yards doesn't strike me as the main drive in that team . Freeman and Henne could build on their good starts and even Jason Campbell could be exactly what the Raiders and his career needs although I think he has gone from one dysfunctional team to another . Then you have guys like Kolb etc who have proven nothing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 VT Mike- I agree with you that I should have put Brady over Rivers. Rivers needs to show he can take his play to the next level. I should have looked at my list one more time before I hit the reply button!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Bedlam VR- I cannot argue with most of what you said. The reason I put Romo sits to pee ahead of McNabb (my gut did not want to do it by the way because I am a true Skins fan) is that Romo sits to pee can roll out of the pocket and evade defensive linemen much easier because he still is young compared to McNabb. This year I hope McNabb will just throw the ball out of bounds if he has no apparent play up the field. When he was younger he could always run for first downs and he beat us running in a few games. Flacco had a great first year and the typical bad second year. This year will be more important for his career if he can break out and really throw for big yardage. I think Flacco can be better than that Baltimore quarterback, Trent Dilfer who was cut the year after they went to the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not knocking anybody opinion, but how is Romo sits to pee ranked above McNabb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esloan Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not knocking anybody opinion, but how is Romo sits to pee ranked above McNabb? Because he is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Not knocking anybody opinion, but how is Romo sits to pee ranked above McNabb? Why would he not be? He's way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Rivers over Brady? Even with a down year (following major knee surgery by the way) they still made the playoffs and he had a pretty damn good year statistically. I'm not putting money on Rivers when he has yet to get his first ring and Brady already has three. I'm just judging based on last year and expectations for this year. So, Brady is older, Rivers had (imo) a slightly better statistical season last year, Brady still doesn't seem fully recovered and Rivers is healthy, both teams were 0-1 in the playoffs. And Wes Welker's health for the season is in doubt. I'm not "putting money" on Rivers to win a SB or anything, I just think he'll be a better QB in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Not knocking anybody opinion, but how is Romo sits to pee ranked above McNabb? Watch the last two Eagles/Cowboys games last year. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Why would he not be? He's way better. IF he is better than McNabb, it's definitely not "way" better, at least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenRiggins Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Not knocking anybody opinion, but how is Romo sits to pee ranked above McNabb? b/c the Eagle's FO said so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderoftheStar Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 IF he is better than McNabb, it's definitely not "way" better, at least in my opinion. thats why its called an opinion. now if parameters were set up and except for play off wins, Romo sits to pee is off to a better statistical career than McNabb. Currently might i add, it can all change throughout the course. Right now and at their careers, I think McNabb was really really good when he was younger, but hes still got accuracy problems and it was really evident last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Romo sits to pee doesnt have accuracy problems? how many times has he thrown multiple interception games? Didnt he have 5 against buffalo alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Romo sits to pee doesnt have accuracy problems? how many times has he thrown multiple interception games? Didnt he have 5 against buffalo alone? He's more accurate than McNabb, his problems were more decision making related, and trying to force things, to make the big play. He suffered from the classic gunslinger mentality, though last year seemed to of fixed much of it, though it did lower his TDs it also greatly lowered his turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 lol..the ol brett favre excuse. i like it. only it doesnt work for me. he tries to think he can make the big play, makes big mistakes and can cost his team when they need a poised QB rather than a "gunslinger" but honestly i dont expect you to think mcnabb is better..id be shocked if you gave him any credit as an opposing fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'd much rather my QB throw incompletions than interceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'd much rather my QB throw incompletions than interceptions Then you should prefer Romo sits to pee at this point. His interception rate last year of 1.6% was better than either McNabb's or Eli's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderoftheStar Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Then you should prefer Romo sits to pee at this point. His interception rate last year of 1.6% was better than either McNabb's or Eli's. NO love for the Romo sits to pee because he wears the Star, remember the Skin fans who couldnt stop saying how great Campbell will be, among others. There is no way Romo sits to pee will get the credit he deserves for what hes doing with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasDW00ds0n Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Then you should prefer Romo sits to pee at this point. His interception rate last year of 1.6% was better than either McNabb's or Eli's. they know dude, they know. Its just hard for them to admitt. I dont blame them, I mean, they got McNabb. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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